TABC steering column/chassis bracket

[jeffrey townsend]

Hi All, I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has. Regards, Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK TB0489 Sent from my iPhone

[Clive Sherriff]

Attachments :Jeff, The TB has the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~ [img]cid:ii_jzkacg680[/img] Clive [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1568909179&sig=7L8VWUUXy7.pB4E5kDjZVg--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com

On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] Hi All, I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has. Regards, Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK TB0489 Sent from my iPhone

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[jeffrey townsend]

Hello Clive, Thanks for the details. Could you confirm my understanding that with a TA chassis and XPAG I would need to use a TC bracket but would also need to use new mounting holes in the chassis.  Regards  Jeff  Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Aug 2019, at 21:35, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:

Jeff, The TB has  the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~  Clive [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1568909179&sig=7L8VWUUXy7.pB4E5kDjZVg--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u]   Hi All, I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has. Regards, Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK TB0489 Sent from my iPhone [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1568909179&sig=7L8VWUUXy7.pB4E5kDjZVg--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com

[jeffrey townsend]

Thanks Clive and others. That s very helpful  Jeff  Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Aug 2019, at 08:16, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:

Thats right Jeff, and there needs to be new three spacers inside the chassis rails to prevent the bolts just crushing the chassis or they will soon become loose after tightening as the chassis deforms. Clive On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 21:56, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: Hello Clive, Thanks for the details. Could you confirm my understanding that with a TA chassis and XPAG I would need to use a TC bracket but would also need to use new mounting holes in the chassis.  Regards  Jeff  Sent from my iPhone On 20 Aug 2019, at 21:35, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote: Jeff, The TB has  the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~  Clive [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1568909180&sig=sOQXQ0PTQv18_H2PxpejnQ--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u]   Hi All, I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has. Regards, Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK TB0489 Sent from my iPhone [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1568909180&sig=sOQXQ0PTQv18_H2PxpejnQ--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com

[Clive Sherriff]

Thats right Jeff, and there needs to be new three spacers inside the chassis rails to prevent the bolts just crushing the chassis or they will soon become loose after tightening as the chassis deforms. Clive

On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 21:56, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: Hello Clive, Thanks for the details. Could you confirm my understanding that with a TA chassis and XPAG I would need to use a TC bracket but would also need to use new mounting holes in the chassis. Regards Jeff Sent from my iPhone On 20 Aug 2019, at 21:35, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote: Jeff, The TB has the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~ Clive [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1568909180&sig=sOQXQ0PTQv18_H2PxpejnQ--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] Hi All, I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has. Regards, Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK TB0489 Sent from my iPhone

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[jeffrey townsend]

Hello Clive, One further point on using the TC steering bracket on a TA chassis with an XPAG engine. Do you or others have a position for the new bracket/holes? I would like to drill the holes while the chassis is bare. I think this would be easier.  I am also looking at the option of making a special bracket to use the original holes.  Regards  Jeff  Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Aug 2019, at 08:16, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:

Thats right Jeff, and there needs to be new three spacers inside the chassis rails to prevent the bolts just crushing the chassis or they will soon become loose after tightening as the chassis deforms. Clive On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 21:56, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: Hello Clive, Thanks for the details. Could you confirm my understanding that with a TA chassis and XPAG I would need to use a TC bracket but would also need to use new mounting holes in the chassis.  Regards  Jeff  Sent from my iPhone On 20 Aug 2019, at 21:35, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote: Jeff, The TB has  the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~  Clive [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1568909182&sig=QAKKu2n0o4V06RITQ76D1Q--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u]   Hi All, I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has. Regards, Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK TB0489 Sent from my iPhone [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1568909182&sig=QAKKu2n0o4V06RITQ76D1Q--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com

[Clive Sherriff]

Jeff, you actually have all the data you need already. Our TB chassis are in fact modified TA chassis and still have the original boltholes for the TA Box ! You will have to position the TC Bracket on the TA in the same place as it it mounted on the TB to give the clearances required. Simples CliveOxford, UK

On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 12:17, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: Hello Clive, One further point on using the TC steering bracket on a TA chassis with an XPAG engine. Do you or others have a position for the new bracket/holes? I would like to drill the holes while the chassis is bare. I think this would be easier. I am also looking at the option of making a special bracket to use the original holes. Regards Jeff Sent from my iPhone On 21 Aug 2019, at 08:16, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote: Thats right Jeff, and there needs to be new three spacers inside the chassis rails to prevent the bolts just crushing the chassis or they will soon become loose after tightening as the chassis deforms. Clive On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 21:56, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: Hello Clive, Thanks for the details. Could you confirm my understanding that with a TA chassis and XPAG I would need to use a TC bracket but would also need to use new mounting holes in the chassis. Regards Jeff Sent from my iPhone On 20 Aug 2019, at 21:35, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote: Jeff, The TB has the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~ Clive [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1568909182&sig=QAKKu2n0o4V06RITQ76D1Q--~E[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] Hi All, I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has. Regards, Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK TB0489 Sent from my iPhone

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[Ian Linton]

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Jeff,

 

You may have already found this in TTT2 http://ttypes.org/ttt2/fitting-an-xpaw-engine-in-a-ta which shows the type of modified steering bracket needed to avoid modifying the chassis.

 

Regards to all, Ian Linton TA3120

Lewes, East Sussex, England

 

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Jeff, you actually have all the data you need already. Our TB chassis are in fact  modified TA chassis and still have the original boltholes for the TA Box !  You will have to position the TC Bracket on the TA in the same place as it it mounted on the TB to give the clearances required.

 

Simples

 

Clive

Oxford, UK

 

On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 12:17, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Hello Clive,

One further point on using the TC steering bracket on a TA chassis with an XPAG engine. Do you or others have a position for the new bracket/holes? I would like to drill the holes while the chassis is bare. I think this would be easier. 

I am also looking at the option of making a special bracket to use the original holes. 

Regards 

Jeff 

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Aug 2019, at 08:16, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:

Thats right Jeff, and there needs to be new three spacers inside the chassis rails to prevent the bolts just crushing the chassis or they will soon become loose after tightening as the chassis deforms.

 

Clive

 

On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 21:56, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Hello Clive,

Thanks for the details. Could you confirm my understanding that with a TA chassis and XPAG I would need to use a TC bracket but would also need to use new mounting holes in the chassis. 

Regards 

Jeff 

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Aug 2019, at 21:35, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote:

Jeff,

 

The TB has  the TC bracket to clear the starter motor on the XPAG, and it's mounted further along the chassis than on the TA

 

MG TA TB and TC Steering Box Mounting Brackets are these - TB and TC on the left as per this rather poor image from the files~ 

 

Clive

 

 

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On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 20:50, jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi All, I m slowly putting together TA1957. It will have an XPAG engine and standard steering. Will it need a TA or TC column bracket? Could someone confirm the difference between these brackets and which bracket the TB has. Regards, Jeff Townsend N Cambridgeshire UK TB0489 Sent from my iPhone

 

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