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Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments]
Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 10:41 am
by Frank Graham
Attachments : #ygrps-yiv-1089416164 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} Brilliant Clive! Excellent explanation, perhaps a thin 5/8" ID shim could be used to prevent damage when using replacement bolts.
Frank
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A number of people have said they have broken headlight brackets. THEY BREAK USUALLY BECAUSE MOST OF THE REPLACEMENT BOLTS AVAILABLE CURRENTLY ARE WRONGLY MADE and then end up WRONGLY FITTED and bolted up so snapping one of the lugs! It is NOT intended that the 2 lugs on the headlight bracket that fix to the radiator bracket eye are pinched together when the nut is tightened, the bolt should lock up only on the rear lug. The Chrome bolt head at the front should NOT be tight against the front lug of the headlight bracket when fitted, there should be a very slight clearance. It is the REAR lug that takes the fixing when the nut is tightened like so : - [img]cid:ii_jvqnf4wx0[/img]
A number, if not all the replacement bolts I ve seen will not tighten properly like this. The 5/8 diameter section is too short and so it will overtighten, pinching the two lugs together and so breaking one of the lugs off. The Bolt should be made so as to allow the nut to only tighten against the rear lug of the headlight bracket. There should remain a very small gap between the big bolt head at the front, and the face of the forward lug. The radiator bracket is a close but not a tight fit on the 5/8 inch section of the bolt.
Hope this is of interest, I've attached some other pics as well to clarify as attachments
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Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments]
Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 11:20 am
by Frank Graham
Attachments : #ygrps-yiv-39631993 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} Actually any shim would have to have an ID under 5/8" to rest on the shoulder of the bolt.
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[b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments] A follow up on this topic
A number of people have said they have broken headlight brackets. THEY BREAK USUALLY BECAUSE MOST OF THE REPLACEMENT BOLTS AVAILABLE CURRENTLY ARE WRONGLY MADE and then end up WRONGLY FITTED and bolted up so snapping one of the lugs! It is NOT intended that the 2 lugs on the headlight bracket that fix to the radiator bracket eye are pinched together when the nut is tightened, the bolt should lock up only on the rear lug. The Chrome bolt head at the front should NOT be tight against the front lug of the headlight bracket when fitted, there should be a very slight clearance. It is the REAR lug that takes the fixing when the nut is tightened like so : - [img]cid:ii_jvqnf4wx0[/img]
A number, if not all the replacement bolts I ve seen will not tighten properly like this. The 5/8 diameter section is too short and so it will overtighten, pinching the two lugs together and so breaking one of the lugs off. The Bolt should be made so as to allow the nut to only tighten against the rear lug of the headlight bracket. There should remain a very small gap between the big bolt head at the front, and the face of the forward lug. The radiator bracket is a close but not a tight fit on the 5/8 inch section of the bolt.
Hope this is of interest, I've attached some other pics as well to clarify as attachments
Clive Oxford UK. m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments]
Posted: Thu May 16, 2019 12:57 pm
by Clive Sherriff
Attachments :THE id HERE IS 1/2 INCH
CLIVE
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On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 19:20, Frank Graham frankgraham@msn.com> wrote:
Actually any shim would have to have an ID under 5/8" to rest on the shoulder of the bolt.
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A number of people have said they have broken headlight brackets. THEY BREAK USUALLY BECAUSE MOST OF THE REPLACEMENT BOLTS AVAILABLE CURRENTLY ARE WRONGLY MADE and then end up WRONGLY FITTED and bolted up so snapping one of the lugs! It is NOT intended that the 2 lugs on the headlight bracket that fix to the radiator bracket eye are pinched together when the nut is tightened, the bolt should lock up only on the rear lug. The Chrome bolt head at the front should NOT be tight against the front lug of the headlight bracket when fitted, there should be a very slight clearance. It is the REAR lug that takes the fixing when the nut is tightened like so : - [img]cid:16ac23766007b38dec21[/img]
A number, if not all the replacement bolts I ve seen will not tighten properly like this. The 5/8 diameter section is too short and so it will overtighten, pinching the two lugs together and so breaking one of the lugs off. The Bolt should be made so as to allow the nut to only tighten against the rear lug of the headlight bracket. There should remain a very small gap between the big bolt head at the front, and the face of the forward lug. The radiator bracket is a close but not a tight fit on the 5/8 inch section of the bolt.
Hope this is of interest, I've attached some other pics as well to clarify as attachments
Clive Oxford UK. m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments]
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:33 am
by Bob Grunau
Attachments :Thanks Clive, excellent advice. I have several broken lug brackets. I also have TWO LEFT side very good brackets, so would like to buy one or two RIGHT side brackets. Or will trade a good LEFT for a good RIGHT. Then I will have a pair. Any takers,? North America would be best to save crazy mailing costs. Thanks, Bob Bob Grunau150 Pinewood Trail,Mississauga, OntarioCanada, L5G-2L1905-274-4136 [b]From:[/b]
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[b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments] A follow up on this topic A number of people have said they have broken headlight brackets. THEY BREAK USUALLY BECAUSE MOST OF THE REPLACEMENT BOLTS AVAILABLE CURRENTLY ARE WRONGLY MADE and then end up WRONGLY FITTED and bolted up so snapping one of the lugs! It is NOT intended that the 2 lugs on the headlight bracket that fix to the radiator bracket eye are pinched together when the nut is tightened, the bolt should lock up only on the rear lug. The Chrome bolt head at the front should NOT be tight against the front lug of the headlight bracket when fitted, there should be a very slight clearance. It is the REAR lug that takes the fixing when the nut is tightened like so : -[img]cid:image001.jpg@01D50D65.33056FF0[/img] A number, if not all the replacement bolts I ve seen will not tighten properly like this. The 5/8 diameter section is too short and so it will overtighten, pinching the two lugs together and so breaking one of the lugs off. The Bolt should be made so as to allow the nut to only tighten against the rear lug of the headlight bracket. There should remain a very small gap between the big bolt head at the front, and the face of the forward lug. The radiator bracket is a close but not a tight fit on the 5/8 inch section of the bolt. Hope this is of interest, I've attached some other pics as well to clarify as attachments CliveOxford UK.m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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