Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments]

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Frank Graham
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Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments]

Post by Frank Graham » Thu May 16, 2019 10:41 am

Attachments : #ygrps-yiv-1089416164 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} Brilliant Clive! Excellent explanation, perhaps a thin 5/8" ID shim could be used to prevent damage when using replacement bolts. Frank [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, May 16, 2019 8:58 AM [b]To:[/b] MGTABC GROUP [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments]    

A follow up on this topic

A number of people have said they have broken headlight brackets.  THEY BREAK 

USUALLY BECAUSE MOST OF THE REPLACEMENT BOLTS AVAILABLE CURRENTLY 

ARE WRONGLY MADE  and then end up WRONGLY FITTED and bolted up so snapping 

one of the lugs!  

 

It is NOT intended that the 2 lugs on the headlight bracket that fix to the radiator bracket eye 

are pinched together when the nut is tightened, the bolt should lock up only on the rear lug.

 

The Chrome bolt head at the front should NOT be tight against the front lug of the headlight 

bracket when fitted, there should be a very slight clearance.  It is the REAR lug that takes 

the fixing when the nut is tightened like so : -

[img]cid:ii_jvqnf4wx0[/img]  

A number, if not all the replacement bolts I ve seen will not tighten properly like this.  The 

5/8 diameter section is too short and so it will overtighten, pinching the two lugs together 

and  so breaking one of the lugs off.

 

The Bolt should be made so as to allow the nut to only tighten against the rear lug of the 

headlight bracket.  There should remain a very small gap between the big bolt head at the 

front, and the face of the forward lug. The radiator bracket is a close but not a tight fit on the 

5/8 inch section of the bolt.

Hope this is of interest, I've attached some other pics as well to clarify as attachments

Clive

Oxford UK.

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Frank Graham
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Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments]

Post by Frank Graham » Thu May 16, 2019 11:20 am

Attachments : #ygrps-yiv-39631993 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} Actually any shim would have to have an ID under 5/8" to rest on the shoulder of the bolt. [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, May 16, 2019 8:58 AM [b]To:[/b] MGTABC GROUP [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments]    

A follow up on this topic

A number of people have said they have broken headlight brackets.  THEY BREAK 

USUALLY BECAUSE MOST OF THE REPLACEMENT BOLTS AVAILABLE CURRENTLY 

ARE WRONGLY MADE  and then end up WRONGLY FITTED and bolted up so snapping 

one of the lugs!  

 

It is NOT intended that the 2 lugs on the headlight bracket that fix to the radiator bracket eye 

are pinched together when the nut is tightened, the bolt should lock up only on the rear lug.

 

The Chrome bolt head at the front should NOT be tight against the front lug of the headlight 

bracket when fitted, there should be a very slight clearance.  It is the REAR lug that takes 

the fixing when the nut is tightened like so : -

[img]cid:ii_jvqnf4wx0[/img]  

A number, if not all the replacement bolts I ve seen will not tighten properly like this.  The 

5/8 diameter section is too short and so it will overtighten, pinching the two lugs together 

and  so breaking one of the lugs off.

 

The Bolt should be made so as to allow the nut to only tighten against the rear lug of the 

headlight bracket.  There should remain a very small gap between the big bolt head at the 

front, and the face of the forward lug. The radiator bracket is a close but not a tight fit on the 

5/8 inch section of the bolt.

Hope this is of interest, I've attached some other pics as well to clarify as attachments

Clive

Oxford UK.

m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments]

Post by Clive Sherriff » Thu May 16, 2019 12:57 pm

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On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 19:20, Frank Graham frankgraham@msn.com> wrote: Actually any shim would have to have an ID under 5/8" to rest on the shoulder of the bolt. [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, May 16, 2019 8:58 AM [b]To:[/b] MGTABC GROUP [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments]

A follow up on this topic

A number of people have said they have broken headlight brackets. THEY BREAK

USUALLY BECAUSE MOST OF THE REPLACEMENT BOLTS AVAILABLE CURRENTLY

ARE WRONGLY MADE and then end up WRONGLY FITTED and bolted up so snapping

one of the lugs!

It is NOT intended that the 2 lugs on the headlight bracket that fix to the radiator bracket eye

are pinched together when the nut is tightened, the bolt should lock up only on the rear lug.

The Chrome bolt head at the front should NOT be tight against the front lug of the headlight

bracket when fitted, there should be a very slight clearance. It is the REAR lug that takes

the fixing when the nut is tightened like so : -

[img]cid:16ac23766007b38dec21[/img]

A number, if not all the replacement bolts I ve seen will not tighten properly like this. The

5/8 diameter section is too short and so it will overtighten, pinching the two lugs together

and so breaking one of the lugs off.

The Bolt should be made so as to allow the nut to only tighten against the rear lug of the

headlight bracket. There should remain a very small gap between the big bolt head at the

front, and the face of the forward lug. The radiator bracket is a close but not a tight fit on the

5/8 inch section of the bolt.

Hope this is of interest, I've attached some other pics as well to clarify as attachments

Clive

Oxford UK.

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Bob Grunau
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Re: TABC headlight Bracket / Wing stays [2 Attachments]

Post by Bob Grunau » Sat May 18, 2019 7:33 am

Attachments :Thanks Clive, excellent advice. I have several broken lug brackets.

 

I also have TWO LEFT side very good brackets, so would like to buy one or two RIGHT side brackets. Or will trade a good LEFT for a good RIGHT. Then I will have a pair.

 

Any takers,? North America would be best to save crazy mailing costs.

 

Thanks, Bob

 

Bob Grunau

150 Pinewood Trail,

Mississauga, Ontario

Canada, L5G-2L1

905-274-4136

 

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A follow up on this topic

 

A number of people have said they have broken headlight brackets.  THEY BREAK 

USUALLY BECAUSE MOST OF THE REPLACEMENT BOLTS AVAILABLE CURRENTLY 

ARE WRONGLY MADE  and then end up WRONGLY FITTED and bolted up so snapping 

one of the lugs!  

 

It is NOT intended that the 2 lugs on the headlight bracket that fix to the radiator bracket eye 

are pinched together when the nut is tightened, the bolt should lock up only on the rear lug.

 

The Chrome bolt head at the front should NOT be tight against the front lug of the headlight 

bracket when fitted, there should be a very slight clearance.  It is the REAR lug that takes 

the fixing when the nut is tightened like so : -

[img]cid:image001.jpg@01D50D65.33056FF0[/img]

 

A number, if not all the replacement bolts I ve seen will not tighten properly like this.  The 

5/8 diameter section is too short and so it will overtighten, pinching the two lugs together 

and  so breaking one of the lugs off.

 

The Bolt should be made so as to allow the nut to only tighten against the rear lug of the 

headlight bracket.  There should remain a very small gap between the big bolt head at the 

front, and the face of the forward lug. The radiator bracket is a close but not a tight fit on the 

5/8 inch section of the bolt.

 

Hope this is of interest, I've attached some other pics as well to clarify as attachments

 

Clive

Oxford UK.

m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

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