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Posted: **Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:04 am**

Attachments :Jeff Rafalaf jeffrafalaf@gmail.com>> asked Is this a TB head or a TC? Well, NEITHER, 22952 is the casting number for post war 1140cc Morris / wolseley and later TD heads. See ENGINES for M.G's Their Story after 1935. By Neil Cairns. from which the following table of casting numbers Model/Item Casting Number . Early Morris/Wolseley Ten 1140cc 'X' cylinder block, oval, 22500Later post war 1140cc cylinder block, oval water holes, 24144Early M.G. 1250cc 'X' block, octagon cast in,oval water holes, 24146 Later post war 1250cc M.G. block,octagon cast in,oval holes, 244454/44, later TD, & TF block, no octagon, round water holes, 168421Early 1140cc cylinderhead, no centre oil drain, oval water holes, 22812Later post war 1140cc head, same as early 'T' type, oval holes. 22952Later TD, & Y oval hole cylinder head, short reach plug, 22952 4/44, TD & TF head, round water holes, long reach plugs, 168422Late 4/44 head, round water holes, 168425 Casting numbers are often quite rough, the pattern getting knocked about with use and age, numbers can be difficult to see. [img]cid:ii_jnipevg21[/img] CliveOxford, UKm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted: **Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:39 am**

Attachments :Nope, also TB and TC and early TD as well as Y types. NOT late TD.

Bobi

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Jeff Rafalaf jeffrafalaf@gmail.com>> asked Is this a TB head or a TC?

Well,

NEITHER, 22952 is the casting number for post war 1140cc Morris / wolseley and later TD heads.

See ENGINES for M.G's Their Story after 1935. By Neil Cairns. from which the following table of casting numbers

Model/Item Casting Number .

Early Morris/Wolseley Ten 1140cc 'X' cylinder block, oval, 22500

Later post war 1140cc cylinder block, oval water holes, 24144

Early M.G. 1250cc 'X' block, octagon cast in,oval water holes, 24146

Later post war 1250cc M.G. block,octagon cast in,oval holes, 24445

4/44, later TD, & TF block, no octagon, round water holes, 168421

Early 1140cc cylinderhead, no centre oil drain, oval water holes, 22812

Later post war 1140cc head, same as early 'T' type, oval holes. 22952

Later TD, & Y oval hole cylinder head, short reach plug, 22952

4/44, TD & TF head, round water holes, long reach plugs, 168422

Late 4/44 head, round water holes, 168425

Casting numbers are often quite rough, the pattern getting knocked about with use and age, numbers can be difficult to see.

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Clive

Oxford, UK

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Posted: **Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:19 am**

Attachments :Bob, No. This does fit a TB, but without a date cast in it definitely was not the original head. Clivem mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 1:39 PM Bob Grunau grunau.garage@sympatico.ca> wrote: Nope, also TB and TC and early TD as well as Y types. NOT late TD.[u][/u][u][/u]
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Posted: **Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:36 am**

Attachments :Hi Mike, MG Did not have a single casting pattern, but there were quite a few, and so the letter / number positions do vary. I wonder who is going to take on the task of identifying how many patterns there were from the various casting marks ? NOt me for sure ! CliveOxford, UKm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:41 AM Mike Inglehearn mingle54@btinternet.com> wrote: interestingly I have 2 cylinder heads both with casting number 22952 but neither have a space between the 22 and 952 just one long number.MikeTB0457 On Sunday, 21 October 2018, 12:04:35 CEST, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Jeff Rafalaf jeffrafalaf@gmail.com>> asked Is this a TB head or a TC? Well, NEITHER, 22952 is the casting number for post war 1140cc Morris / wolseley and later TD heads. See ENGINES for M.G's Their Story after 1935. By Neil Cairns. from which the following table of casting numbers Model/Item Casting Number . Early Morris/Wolseley Ten 1140cc 'X' cylinder block, oval, 22500Later post war 1140cc cylinder block, oval water holes, 24144Early M.G. 1250cc 'X' block, octagon cast in,oval water holes, 24146 Later post war 1250cc M.G. block,octagon cast in,oval holes, 244454/44, later TD, & TF block, no octagon, round water holes, 168421Early 1140cc cylinderhead, no centre oil drain, oval water holes, 22812Later post war 1140cc head, same as early 'T' type, oval holes. 22952Later TD, & Y oval hole cylinder head, short reach plug, 22952 4/44, TD & TF head, round water holes, long reach plugs, 168422Late 4/44 head, round water holes, 168425 Casting numbers are often quite rough, the pattern getting knocked about with use and age, numbers can be difficult to see. [img]cid:VQpovzrEaPQSONcsMyZl[/img] CliveOxford, UKm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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