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Lucas control box questions

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:52 pm
by Bill Miller
Here is a new problem.  Am reiring my 47TC with a Moss wiring harness for an EXUTC with turn signals.  Everything was going fine until it came time to hook up the regulator.  I obviously do not have a RF 95 control box as the terminal letters, on the control I have,  run in the following sequence from left to right looking down on the terminals.
A4  A4  E  A3  D  A1  A  F  A2
The RF95 control box shows the following, per the wiring diagram
A1  A  A2  F  D  A4  A4  E  A3
Questions, what control box do I have.  Second, do I ignore the sequence and hook up according to the letter and appropriate wire shown on the wiring diagrams.
Bill Miller
TC2387
Grove,  Oklahoma

Re: Lucas control box questions

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:11 pm
by Dave Ahrendt
Bill,   You have an RF91 regulator which is appropriate for early TCs.  The two fuses should be under the cover where the RF95 has the fuses exposed. You should wire according to the RF91 layout.  There are enough differences between the two that you can cause damage if you wire an RF91 as an RF95.   Dave Ahrendt TC0524     [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com">Bill Miller wmmiller@aol.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, May 16, 2018 6:05 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com">mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Lucas control box questions    

Here is a new problem.  Am reiring my 47TC with a Moss wiring harness for an EXUTC with turn signals.  Everything was going fine until it came time to hook up the regulator.  I obviously do not have a RF 95 control box as the terminal letters, on the control I have,  run in the following sequence from left to right looking down on the terminals.   A4  A4  E  A3  D  A1  A  F  A2   The RF95 control box shows the following, per the wiring diagram   A1  A  A2  F  D  A4  A4  E  A3   Questions, what control box do I have.  Second, do I ignore the sequence and hook up according to the letter and appropriate wire shown on the wiring diagrams.   Bill Miller TC2387 Grove,  Oklahoma


Re: Lucas control box questions

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:22 pm
by CHARLES HUGHES
The lettered terminals all the same, just not in the same order.  Ignore the sequence and hook up the correct color-coded wire to the correct lettered terminal per the diagram. - Mike Hughes  '37  TA 0512  On Thursday, May 17, 2018 3:59 PM, "Bill Miller wmmiller@aol.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   Here is a new problem.  Am reiring my 47TC with a Moss wiring harness for an EXUTC with turn signals.  Everything was going fine until it came time to hook up the regulator.  I obviously do not have a RF 95 control box as the terminal letters, on the control I have,  run in the following sequence from left to right looking down on the terminals. A4  A4  E  A3  D  A1  A  F  A2 The RF95 control box shows the following, per the wiring diagram A1  A  A2  F  D  A4  A4  E  A3 Questions, what control box do I have.  Second, do I ignore the sequence and hook up according to the letter and appropriate wire shown on the wiring diagrams. 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Re: Lucas control box questions

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:13 pm
by John
Bill.  I lave a later regulator that I will swap for the early one. I have a 46 TC that needs an early one.John BowyerTC 1733TC 7474 EXU Sent from my iPhone
On May 17, 2018, at 3:11 PM, 'Dave Ahrendt' dave@dkahrendt.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
  Bill,   You have an RF91 regulator which is appropriate for early TCs.  The two fuses should be under the cover where the RF95 has the fuses exposed. You should wire according to the RF91 layout.  There are enough differences between the two that you can cause damage if you wire an RF91 as an RF95.   Dave Ahrendt TC0524     [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com">Bill Miller wmmiller@aol.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, May 16, 2018 6:05 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com">mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Lucas control box questions     Here is a new problem.  Am reiring my 47TC with a Moss wiring harness for an EXUTC with turn signals.  Everything was going fine until it came time to hook up the regulator.  I obviously do not have a RF 95 control box as the terminal letters, on the control I have,  run in the following sequence from left to right looking down on the terminals.   A4  A4  E  A3  D  A1  A  F  A2   The RF95 control box shows the following, per the wiring diagram   A1  A  A2  F  D  A4  A4  E  A3   Questions, what control box do I have.  Second, do I ignore the sequence and hook up according to the letter and appropriate wire shown on the wiring diagrams.   Bill Miller TC2387 Grove,  Oklahoma

Re: Lucas control box questions

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 8:43 pm
by Bill Miller
Thanks for both of your responses.  Dave will follow your lead and wire according to the RF91 labels, have plenty of wire and I know it matches the generator.  John, appreciate your offer but believe I will stick with the 91 at this point. Bill Miller In a message dated 5/17/2018 7:40:55 PM Central Standard Time, mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com writes:
  Bill.  I lave a later regulator that I will swap for the early one. I have a 46 TC that needs an early one. John Bowyer TC 1733 TC 7474 EXU Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2018, at 3:11 PM, 'Dave Ahrendt' dave@dkahrendt.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [quote]     Bill, You have an RF91 regulator which is appropriate for early TCs.  The two fuses should be under the cover where the RF95 has the fuses exposed. You should wire according to the RF91 layout.  There are enough differences between the two that you can cause damage if you wire an RF91 as an RF95. Dave Ahrendt TC0524 [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com">Bill Miller wmmiller@aol.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, May 16, 2018 6:05 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com">mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Lucas control box questions     Here is a new problem.  Am reiring my 47TC with a Moss wiring harness for an EXUTC with turn signals.  Everything was going fine until it came time to hook up the regulator.  I obviously do not have a RF 95 control box as the terminal letters, on the control I have,  run in the following sequence from left to right looking down on the terminals. A4  A4  E  A3  D  A1  A  F  A2 The RF95 control box shows the following, per the wiring diagram A1  A  A2  F  D  A4  A4  E  A3 Questions, what control box do I have.  Second, do I ignore the sequence and hook up according to the letter and appropriate wire shown on the wiring diagrams. Bill Miller TC2387 Grove,  Oklahoma
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