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I seem to remember someone saying that the TC will steer better if the track is set far greater than the 3/16" (5mm) the handbook says. Am I dreaming? Thnaks, Norman TC 10178 (November 1949)On Mar 8, 2018, at 05:56, norman@frenchblat.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Yes Norman, I set mine at 1/2" as specified for the TA and TB in the manuals I have. Much improved, steers almost like my Miatas. Steve TC2911 [b]From:[/b] "norman@frenchblat.com [mg-tabc]" c-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, March 8, 2018 6:57 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC I seem to remember someone saying that the TC will steer better if the track is set far greater than the 3/16" (5mm) the handbook says. Am I dreaming? Thnaks, Norman TC 10178 (November 1949)
I am watching the wear on my new front tires and am about to rotate them after a couple thousand miles of use this year. I note that the previous set wore more in the center running 30psi and lasted about 14,000 miles with rotation, these seem to be doing the same. As to how many miles these will go, we will have to see and this sort of coincides with how many miles I will go as we both are very close in age. I do find the improved directional stability much to my liking and may be willing to pay a price in slightly increased tire wear.Steve TC2911 [b]From:[/b] "dezwartj@telus.net [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net>; norman@frenchblat.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 5:51 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC And you might leave a trace of rubber on the road as well.... I did this in the past and indeed, the TC steers just lovely. But I had to replace my front tyres after 1 season of moderate use...... Went back to the factory advised 3/16 toe-in and no more problems with rubber leaving my tyres. But yes, Wanda is wandering a tad again. Just part of the charm driving a 70 year old MG. [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com" shape="rect">Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, March 8, 2018 8:19 AM [b]To:[/b] norman@frenchblat.com" shape="rect">norman@frenchblat.com ; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" shape="rect">mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC Yes Norman, I set mine at 1/2" as specified for the TA and TB in the manuals I have. Much improved, steers almost like my Miatas. Steve TC2911 [b]From:[/b] "norman@frenchblat.com [mg-tabc]" c-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, March 8, 2018 6:57 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC I seem to remember someone saying that the TC will steer better if the track is set far greater than the 3/16" (5mm) the handbook says. Am I dreaming? Thnaks, Norman TC 10178 (November 1949)On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I am watching the wear on my new front tires and am about to rotate them after a couple thousand miles of use this year. I note that the previous set wore more in the center running 30psi and lasted about 14,000 miles with rotation, these seem to be doing the same. As to how many miles these will go, we will have to see and this sort of coincides with how many miles I will go as we both are very close in age. I do find the improved directional stability much to my liking and may be willing to pay a price in slightly increased tire wear.Steve TC2911 [b]From:[/b] "dezwartj@telus.net [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net>; norman@frenchblat.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC And you might leave a trace of rubber on the road as well.... I did this in the past and indeed, the TC steers just lovely. But I had to replace my front tyres after 1 season of moderate use...... Went back to the factory advised 3/16 toe-in and no more problems with rubber leaving my tyres. But yes, Wanda is wandering a tad again. Just part of the charm driving a 70 year old MG. [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com" shape="rect">Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, March 8, 2018 8:19 AM [b]To:[/b] norman@frenchblat.com" shape="rect">norman@frenchblat.com ; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" shape="rect">mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC Yes Norman, I set mine at 1/2" as specified for the TA and TB in the manuals I have. Much improved, steers almost like my Miatas. Steve TC2911 [b]From:[/b] "norman@frenchblat.com [mg-tabc]" c-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, March 8, 2018 6:57 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC I seem to remember someone saying that the TC will steer better if the track is set far greater than the 3/16" (5mm) the handbook says. Am I dreaming? Thnaks, Norman TC 10178 (November 1949)
These are Excelsiors, available from several sources in the States.Steve [b]From:[/b] Peter Mond tangous1@yahoo.com> [b]To:[/b] Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net> [b]Cc:[/b] "dezwartj@telus.net" dezwartj@telus.net>; "norman@frenchblat.com" norman@frenchblat.com>; "mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, March 8, 2018 6:26 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC What brand of tires do your TC wear. Where did you buy themPeter MTC 80 On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I am watching the wear on my new front tires and am about to rotate them after a couple thousand miles of use this year. I note that the previous set wore more in the center running 30psi and lasted about 14,000 miles with rotation, these seem to be doing the same. As to how many miles these will go, we will have to see and this sort of coincides with how many miles I will go as we both are very close in age. I do find the improved directional stability much to my liking and may be willing to pay a price in slightly increased tire wear.Steve TC2911 [b]From:[/b] "dezwartj@telus.net [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net>; norman@frenchblat.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC And you might leave a trace of rubber on the road as well.... I did this in the past and indeed, the TC steers just lovely. But I had to replace my front tyres after 1 season of moderate use...... Went back to the factory advised 3/16 toe-in and no more problems with rubber leaving my tyres. But yes, Wanda is wandering a tad again. Just part of the charm driving a 70 year old MG. [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com" shape="rect">Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, March 8, 2018 8:19 AM [b]To:[/b] norman@frenchblat.com" shape="rect">norman@frenchblat.com ; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" shape="rect">mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC Yes Norman, I set mine at 1/2" as specified for the TA and TB in the manuals I have. Much improved, steers almost like my Miatas. Steve TC2911 [b]From:[/b] "norman@frenchblat.com [mg-tabc]" c-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, March 8, 2018 6:57 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC I seem to remember someone saying that the TC will steer better if the track is set far greater than the 3/16" (5mm) the handbook says. Am I dreaming? Thnaks, Norman TC 10178 (November 1949)On Mar 8, 2018, at 8:06 PM, Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
On 9 Mar 2018, at 11:30 am, Bill Hyatt usaj24@earthlink.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Service life of tires just 14k miles ? Vintage tire suppliers must really dumb down their tires to create an endless market. My daily driver tires typically last 75k miles. -Bill HyattSent from my iPhone On Mar 8, 2018, at 8:06 PM, Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: These are Excelsiors, available from several sources in the States.Steve From: Peter Mond tangous1@yahoo.com> To: Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net> Cc: "dezwartj@telus.net" dezwartj@telus.net>; "norman@frenchblat.com" norman@frenchblat.com>; "mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC What brand of tires do your TC wear. Where did you buy themPeter MTC 80 On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I am watching the wear on my new front tires and am about to rotate them after a couple thousand miles of use this year. I note that the previous set wore more in the center running 30psi and lasted about 14,000 miles with rotation, these seem to be doing the same. As to how many miles these will go, we will have to see and this sort of coincides with how many miles I will go as we both are very close in age. I do find the improved directional stability much to my liking and may be willing to pay a price in slightly increased tire wear.Steve TC2911 From: "dezwartj@telus.net [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net>; norman@frenchblat.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC And you might leave a trace of rubber on the road as well.... I did this in the past and indeed, the TC steers just lovely. But I had to replace my front tyres after 1 season of moderate use...... Went back to the factory advised 3/16 toe-in and no more problems with rubber leaving my tyres. But yes, Wanda is wandering a tad again. Just part of the charm driving a 70 year old MG. From: mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com" shape="rect" style="line-height:1.22em;" class="ygrps-yiv-1307314293">Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc]Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 8:19 AMTo: norman@frenchblat.com" shape="rect" style="line-height:1.22em;" class="ygrps-yiv-1307314293">norman@frenchblat.com ; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" shape="rect" style="line-height:1.22em;" class="ygrps-yiv-1307314293">mg-tabc@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC Yes Norman, I set mine at 1/2" as specified for the TA and TB in the manuals I have. Much improved, steers almost like my Miatas.Steve TC2911 From: "norman@frenchblat.com [mg-tabc]" c-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 6:57 AM Subject: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC I seem to remember someone saying that the TC will steer better if the track is set far greater than the 3/16" (5mm) the handbook says. Am I dreaming? Thnaks, Norman TC 10178 (November 1949)
These are Excelsiors, available from several sources in the States.Steve [b]From:[/b] Peter Mond tangous1@yahoo.com> [b]To:[/b] Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net> [b]Cc:[/b] "dezwartj@telus.net" dezwartj@telus.net>; "norman@frenchblat.com" norman@frenchblat.com>; "mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, March 8, 2018 6:26 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC What brand of tires do your TC wear. Where did you buy themPeter MTC 80 On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:17 PM, Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I am watching the wear on my new front tires and am about to rotate them after a couple thousand miles of use this year. I note that the previous set wore more in the center running 30psi and lasted about 14,000 miles with rotation, these seem to be doing the same. As to how many miles these will go, we will have to see and this sort of coincides with how many miles I will go as we both are very close in age. I do find the improved directional stability much to my liking and may be willing to pay a price in slightly increased tire wear.Steve TC2911 [b]From:[/b] "dezwartj@telus.net [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net>; norman@frenchblat.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC And you might leave a trace of rubber on the road as well.... I did this in the past and indeed, the TC steers just lovely. But I had to replace my front tyres after 1 season of moderate use...... Went back to the factory advised 3/16 toe-in and no more problems with rubber leaving my tyres. But yes, Wanda is wandering a tad again. Just part of the charm driving a 70 year old MG. [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com" shape="rect">Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, March 8, 2018 8:19 AM [b]To:[/b] norman@frenchblat.com" shape="rect">norman@frenchblat.com ; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" shape="rect">mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC Yes Norman, I set mine at 1/2" as specified for the TA and TB in the manuals I have. Much improved, steers almost like my Miatas. Steve TC2911 [b]From:[/b] "norman@frenchblat.com [mg-tabc]" c-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, March 8, 2018 6:57 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Toe in for TC I seem to remember someone saying that the TC will steer better if the track is set far greater than the 3/16" (5mm) the handbook says. Am I dreaming? Thnaks, Norman TC 10178 (November 1949)