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On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:12 AM, ian thomson i.thomson@talk21.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] Without meaning to criticize you Dennis, the only question relevant for me here is Why?. Leaving aside the question of why the factory chose to make T types positive earth in the first place when previous cars were negative earth, why change something which works? Many people will cite the addition of modern appliances which come only in negative earth versions but even these work perfectly well if isolated from the metalwork of the car and having a wooden body helps in this regard. Simply connect the two wires correctly to the car wiring without while insulating the whole setup from the metalwork or, if there is only one power connector, connect the body of the part to the car wiring and the power connection to the car metalwork. Why make things difficult by having to do all the extra work of reversing polarity and running the risk of confusing future custodians? No offence meantIan ThomsonNotts. UK

[u][/u]   Without meaning to criticize you Dennis, the only question relevant for me here is Why?.  Leaving aside the question of why the factory chose to make T types positive earth in the first place when previous cars were negative earth, why change something which works?  Many people will cite the addition of modern appliances which come only in negative earth versions but even these work perfectly well if isolated from the metalwork of the car and having a wooden body helps in this regard.  Simply connect the two wires correctly to the car wiring without while insulating the whole setup from the metalwork or, if there is only one power connector, connect the body of the part to the car wiring and the power connection to the car metalwork.  Why make things difficult by having to do all the extra work of reversing polarity and running the risk of confusing future custodians? No offence meantIan ThomsonNotts. UK

On Thu, 1/11/18, Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] YET another question on Pos to Neg on MG TA To: "Dennis Nelson" dennis.nelson6@gmail.com>, "i.thomson@talk21.com" i.thomson@talk21.com> Cc: "Yahoogroups" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, January 11, 2018, 8:00 AM I am old and old school also, hence my desire to leave something that has worked for 70 years alone. You are risking the reversal of the all the good Karma that flowed through the vehicle in that time, sometimes it is best to leave well enough alone. I am not sure that this is a wise move, tempting fate and such.no offense meant........ Steve TC211, firmly grounded in a positive fashion From: "Dennis Nelson dennis.nelson6@gmail.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: "i.thomson@talk21.com" i.thomson@talk21.com> Cc: Yahoogroups mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] YET another question on Pos to Neg on MG TA No offence taken! Valid points all! You are right that there really is no good reason for doing this but I guess being old, old, old school, negative ground is in my blood!!! But conversely there is little to lose by going negative ground. Really all that needs to be done on a car with no modern gadgets is to reverse the leads on the ammeter. So, thanks everyone! Dennis On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:12 AM, ian thomson i.thomson@talk21.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Without meaning to criticize you Dennis, the only question relevant for me here is Why?. Leaving aside the question of why the factory chose to make T types positive earth in the first place when previous cars were negative earth, why change something which works? Many people will cite the addition of modern appliances which come only in negative earth versions but even these work perfectly well if isolated from the metalwork of the car and having a wooden body helps in this regard. Simply connect the two wires correctly to the car wiring without while insulating the whole setup from the metalwork or, if there is only one power connector, connect the body of the part to the car wiring and the power connection to the car metalwork. Why make things difficult by having to do all the extra work of reversing polarity and running the risk of confusing future custodians? No offence meantIan ThomsonNotts. 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On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 9:04 AM, phil smith mgpsmith@att.net> wrote: If you'd just convert the electrics to AC, there would be none of these concerns...... Science is the great antidote to the poison of enthusiasm and superstition ...Adam Smith ------------------------------ -------------- On Thu, 1/11/18, Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] YET another question on Pos to Neg on MG TA To: "Dennis Nelson" dennis.nelson6@gmail.com>, "i.thomson@talk21.com" i.thomson@talk21.com> Cc: "Yahoogroups" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, January 11, 2018, 8:00 AM I am old and old school also, hence my desire to leave something that has worked for 70 years alone. You are risking the reversal of the all the good Karma that flowed through the vehicle in that time, sometimes it is best to leave well enough alone. I am not sure that this is a wise move, tempting fate and such.no offense meant........ Steve TC211, firmly grounded in a positive fashion From: "Dennis Nelson dennis.nelson6@gmail.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: "i.thomson@talk21.com" i.thomson@talk21.com> Cc: Yahoogroups mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] YET another question on Pos to Neg on MG TA No offence taken! Valid points all! You are right that there really is no good reason for doing this but I guess being old, old, old school, negative ground is in my blood!!! But conversely there is little to lose by going negative ground. Really all that needs to be done on a car with no modern gadgets is to reverse the leads on the ammeter. So, thanks everyone! Dennis On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 5:12 AM, ian thomson i.thomson@talk21.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Without meaning to criticize you Dennis, the only question relevant for me here is Why?. Leaving aside the question of why the factory chose to make T types positive earth in the first place when previous cars were negative earth, why change something which works? Many people will cite the addition of modern appliances which come only in negative earth versions but even these work perfectly well if isolated from the metalwork of the car and having a wooden body helps in this regard. Simply connect the two wires correctly to the car wiring without while insulating the whole setup from the metalwork or, if there is only one power connector, connect the body of the part to the car wiring and the power connection to the car metalwork. Why make things difficult by having to do all the extra work of reversing polarity and running the risk of confusing future custodians? No offence meantIan ThomsonNotts. 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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 at 15:21, MIKE INGLEHEARNmingle54@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi IanAccording to the Lucas Technical Service Overseas Training Course manual page 5 of Section 6 (Vehicle Wiring), British vehicles were changed around 1936 from negative to positive earth as "certain specific advantages were found", some of the main ones being improved sparkplug performance from the central electrode being made negative, and the formation of electrolytic sulphation at the battery positive terminal also corrosion of switch contacts and connectors was reduced. I read that the change back to negative earth followed the use of PVC covered wiring which was less prone to damp than the cloth & rubber covering of the old wire. RegardsMikeTB0457(Still positive earth) From: "ian thomson i.thomson@talk21.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: Yahoogroups mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, 11 January 2018, 11:12 [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] YET another question on Pos to Neg on MG TA   Without meaning to criticize you Dennis, the only question relevant for me here is Why?.  Leaving aside the question of why the factory chose to make T types positive earth in the first place when previous cars were negative earth, why change something which works?  Many people will cite the addition of modern appliances which come only in negative earth versions but even these work perfectly well if isolated from the metalwork of the car and having a wooden body helps in this regard.  Simply connect the two wires correctly to the car wiring without while insulating the whole setup from the metalwork or, if there is only one power connector, connect the body of the part to the car wiring and the power connection to the car metalwork.  Why make things difficult by having to do all the extra work of reversing polarity and running the risk of confusing future custodians? No offence meantIan ThomsonNotts. 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