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Re: TA vs TC engine

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:58 am
by Geoff Broad

 

Hi Listers

 

Can anyone advise what to look for - the obvious visual differences - between a TA engine and an XPAG. I am very slightly suspicious that a TC I am looking at may have a TA engine and don t want to make a mistake

 

Thanks

 

Geoff

 

Sunny Cambridge UK


Re: TA vs TC engine

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:08 am
by joecurto@aol.com
If you have a copy of the MG workshop manual by WE Blower there would be pictures , plus I am sure there are many who can tell you what to look for Joe Curto 718-762-7878 www.joecurto.com -----Original Message----- From: 'Geoff Broad' broadassociates@btinternet.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, Nov 13, 2017 11:59 am Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] TA vs TC engine     Hi Listers   Can anyone advise what to look for - the obvious visual differences  - between a TA engine and an XPAG. 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Re: TA vs TC engine

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:14 am
by Stephen D Stierman
Do an  image search on the web under MGTA engine and than TC engine, you can see the differences.  The way the spark plugs are situated in the head is an obvious difference.Steve TC2911 From: "'Geoff Broad' broadassociates@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, November 13, 2017 11:58 AM [b]Subject:[/b] RE: [mg-tabc] TA vs TC engine    Hi Listers  Can anyone advise what to look for - the obvious visual differences  - between a TA engine and an XPAG. 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Re: TA vs TC engine

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:38 am
by Bob Grunau
Attachments :Geoff

TA engine and gearbox out of a TA. Many obvious differences from TC, , clutch lever, angled spark plugs, wide sump, starter motor switch ,front motor mounts ,

Bob, Canada

 

[b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]'Geoff Broad' broadassociates@btinternet.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, November 13, 2017 11:59 AM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] RE: [mg-tabc] TA vs TC engine

 

 

 

Hi Listers

 

Can anyone advise what to look for - the obvious visual differences  - between a TA engine and an XPAG. I am very slightly suspicious that a TC I am looking at may have a TA engine and don t want to make a mistake

 

Thanks

 

Geoff

 

Sunny Cambridge UK


Re: TA vs TC engine

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:29 am
by Ian Linton
Geoff, Most obvious is the exhaust manifold. TA has 3 pipes (siamesed 4 &5) but TC has 4. Regards to all, Ian Linton TA3120 Lewes, East Sussex, UK
On 13 November 2017 16:58:57 GMT+00:00, "'Geoff Broad' broadassociates@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:    

Hi Listers

 

Can anyone advise what to look for - the obvious visual differences  - between a TA engine and an XPAG. I am very slightly suspicious that a TC I am looking at may have a TA engine and don’t want to make a mistake

 

Thanks

 

Geoff

 

Sunny Cambridge UK

-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: TA vs TC engine

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:45 pm
by diecuts2333
Another subtle difference is the position of the radiator inlet and outlet pipes, ask me how I know....:} Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI  MGTA Tickford 2969, TC0780
-----Original Message----- From: Ian Linton tabc@talktalk.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: Geoff Broad ; 'Geoff Broad' broadassociates@btinternet.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com>; mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, Nov 13, 2017 2:29 pm Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] TA vs TC engine #ygrps-yiv-1599955760 #ygrps-yiv-1599955760AOLMsgPart_2_86fc3dfd-dc8c-4a86-bc30-27f61bc3de4c td{color:black;}#ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_ygrp-photo-title{clear:both;font-size:smaller;height:15px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;width:75px;}#ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_ygrp-photo{background-position:center;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-color:white;border:1px solid black;height:62px;width:62px;}#ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_photo-title a, #ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_photo-title a:active, #ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_photo-title a:hover, #ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_attach-table div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_attach-row {clear:both;}#ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_attach-table div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_attach-row div {float:left;}#ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody p {clear:both;padding:15px 0 3px 0;overflow:hidden;}#ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_ygrp-file {width:30px;}#ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_attach-table div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_attach-row div div a {text-decoration:none;}#ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_attach-table div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_attach-row div div span {font-weight:normal;}#ygrps-yiv-1599955760 .ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-1599955760aolmail_ygrp-file-title {font-weight:bold;} Geoff, Most obvious is the exhaust manifold. TA has 3 pipes (siamesed 4 &5) but TC has 4. Regards to all, Ian Linton TA3120 Lewes, East Sussex, UK On 13 November 2017 16:58:57 GMT+00:00, "'Geoff Broad' broadassociates@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:     Hi Listers   Can anyone advise what to look for - the obvious visual differences  - between a TA engine and an XPAG. I am very slightly suspicious that a TC I am looking at may have a TA engine and don t want to make a mistake   Thanks   Geoff   Sunny Cambridge UK -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

TA vs TC engine

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:49 pm
by diecuts2333
Another subtle difference is the position of the radiator inlet and outlet pipes, ask me how I know....:} Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI  MGTA Tickford 2969, TC0780

Re: TA vs TC engine

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:05 pm
by diecuts2333
I have had 3 TAs over the years, two of them TA Tickfords.  In one of them, the engine was a gold seal replacement, xpag.  It needed a new radiator,    The other was the original engine.  The radiator in the original TA looked perfect.  Decided to switch radiators.  The inlet and outlet  holes don't match up by about an inch to one side.  If you have a TA with its original radiator, hang onto it, or at least pass it on to someone with a TA engine.   cheers,  Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI   TA2969 tickford, TC780    -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Broad To: diecuts diecuts@aol.com> Sent: Mon, Nov 13, 2017 3:54 pm Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] TA vs TC engine How do you know Lee? Geoff Sent from my iPhone
On 13 Nov 2017, at 20:49, diecuts@aol.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
  Another subtle difference is the position of the radiator inlet and outlet pipes, ask me how I know....:} Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI  MGTA Tickford 2969, TC0780

Re: TA vs TC engine

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:40 am
by Geoff Broad
Attachments :Many thanks to all who gave me guidance on this subject. I do have the XPAG engine!

 

Regards

Geoff

 

[b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Ian Linton tabc@talktalk.net [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] 13 November 2017 19:30 [b]To:[/b] Geoff Broad; 'Geoff Broad' broadassociates@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] RE: [mg-tabc] TA vs TC engine

 

 

Geoff, Most obvious is the exhaust manifold. TA has 3 pipes (siamesed 4 &5) but TC has 4. Regards to all, Ian Linton TA3120 Lewes, East Sussex, UK

On 13 November 2017 16:58:57 GMT+00:00, "'Geoff Broad' broadassociates@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

Hi Listers

 

Can anyone advise what to look for - the obvious visual differences  - between a TA engine and an XPAG. I am very slightly suspicious that a TC I am looking at may have a TA engine and don t want to make a mistake

 

Thanks

 

Geoff

 

Sunny Cambridge UK

-- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


Re: TA vs TC engine

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:33 am
by Bill Hyatt
See http://www.mgcc.co.uk/t-register/the-t-register-register-of-t-types/t-type-chassis-and-engine-identification/

 

 

Bill

TC 4926

Odessa, Fl

 

[b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Stephen D Stierman morgan7709@sbcglobal.net [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, November 13, 2017 12:14 PM [b]To:[/b] Geoff Broad; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] TA vs TC engine

 

 

Do an  image search on the web under MGTA engine and than TC engine, you can see the differences.  The way the spark plugs are situated in the head is an obvious difference.

Steve TC2911

From: "'Geoff Broad' broadassociates@btinternet.com [mg-tabc]" mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, November 13, 2017 11:58 AM [b]Subject:[/b] RE: [mg-tabc] TA vs TC engine

 

 

 

Hi Listers

 

Can anyone advise what to look for - the obvious visual differences  - between a TA engine and an XPAG. I am very slightly suspicious that a TC I am looking at may have a TA engine and don t want to make a mistake

 

Thanks

 

Geoff

 

Sunny Cambridge UK