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>From: "SALLY CARROLL" jim.n.sally.carroll@worldnet.att.net> >Reply-To: "SALLY CARROLL" jim.n.sally.carroll@worldnet.att.net> >To: "The group T-ABCs" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 >Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:13:15 -0400 > >Sorry guys the 'Limey' appellation came from the necessity for vitamin C >being discovered by some very smart British sailing Ship Master. >Used to be, everyone in the crew had a medicinal ration of rum daily and >someone discovered that adding Lime juice (limes being easily carried and >or obtained) prevented scurvy (a very nasty ailment.) > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

----- Original Message ----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:17 AM Subject: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> Subject: Yanks, Ausies, and Poms. Okay. Here's a quasi-pukka question regarding a word derivation. A subject which I find at least as interesting as tonneau cover snaps. We Americans are "Yanks" or in some areas, "Gringos". Australians are "Ausies" (A shortened form of Australian), New Zealanders are "Kiwis" ( from their National bird). Germans are "Krauts" (obviously a shortening of sauerkraut, a favorite National food). The British, (the MG connection), are "Brits", "Limeys", or "Poms". The derivation of "Brit" is obvious. I can venture a guess as to the derivation of "Limey". I believe there was a popular expression in Elizabethan England which went, "Blame me for the bloody corpse of Christ" which would have been used in a way similar to the way, today, we might say "well, f**k me" or, "I'll be damned" to express dismay or consternation. In time, this original Elizabethan expression yielded four separate expletives, "blame me" with a Cockney accent, became "blimey!" And hence, "Limey". The other three expletives which the original Elizabethan expression yielded are the ever popular "Bloody!", "Cor!" (again, corpse with a Cockney accent), and "Christ!". My question is, where does "Pom" come from? Of course "pomme" is French for apple but I can't figure a connection and everybody knows the French are "Frogs" anyway. I am genuinely curious and mean no offense to anyone. Incidentally, the previous few sentences have caused my computer's spell checker to assume the fetal position in a corner of my monitor screen with its thumb in its mouth. Postus Scriptus: It has occurred to me that another, and perhaps more likely, possible derivation for "limey" would be as a reference to the lime-rich and well known Dover white cliffs. P.S.#2: In some quarters of the globe, we Americans are also known as "the great satan" - but I don't know why..... Inquiring Badgers want to know [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> Hi All, > Got back from sunny climes last week and still trolling through > all the e mail when this one from Mr Brock caught my eye Looks like you've > got all the answers. Ever wondered why we Brits put two fingers up as a mark > of displeasure i,e other bad drivers? No offence meant just another olde > English custom that dates even further back. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:17 AM > Subject: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 > > > > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > Subject: Yanks, Ausies, and Poms. > > Okay. > Here's a quasi-pukka question regarding a word derivation. A subject which > I find at least as interesting as tonneau cover snaps. > We Americans are "Yanks" or in some areas, "Gringos". Australians are > "Ausies" (A shortened form of Australian), New Zealanders are "Kiwis" ( > from their National bird). Germans are "Krauts" (obviously a shortening of > sauerkraut, a favorite National food). The British, (the MG connection), > are "Brits", "Limeys", or "Poms". The derivation of "Brit" is obvious. I > can venture a guess as to the derivation of "Limey". I believe there was a > popular expression in Elizabethan England which went, "Blame me for the > bloody corpse of Christ" which would have been used in a way similar to the > way, today, we might say "well, f**k me" or, "I'll be damned" to express > dismay or consternation. In time, this original Elizabethan expression > yielded four separate expletives, "blame me" with a Cockney accent, became > "blimey!" And hence, "Limey". The other three expletives which the > original Elizabethan expression yielded are the ever popular "Bloody!", > "Cor!" (again, corpse with a Cockney accent), and "Christ!". My question > is, where does "Pom" come from? Of course "pomme" is French for apple but I > can't figure a connection and everybody knows the French are "Frogs" anyway. > I am genuinely curious and mean no offense to anyone. > > Incidentally, the previous few sentences have caused my computer's spell > checker to assume the fetal position in a corner of my monitor screen with > its thumb in its mouth. > > Postus Scriptus: It has occurred to me that another, and perhaps more > likely, possible derivation for "limey" would be as a reference to the > lime-rich and well known Dover white cliffs. > P.S.#2: In some quarters of the globe, we Americans are also known as "the > great satan" - but I don't know why..... > > Inquiring Badgers want to know > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

> Hi All, > Got back from sunny climes last week and still trolling through >all the e mail when this one from Mr Brock caught my eye Looks like you've >got all the answers. Ever wondered why we Brits put two fingers up as a mark >of displeasure i,e other bad drivers? No offence meant just another olde >English custom that dates even further back. >----- Original Message ----- >From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:17 AM >Subject: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 > > > > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> >Subject: Yanks, Ausies, and Poms. > >Okay. >Here's a quasi-pukka question regarding a word derivation. A subject which >I find at least as interesting as tonneau cover snaps. >We Americans are "Yanks" or in some areas, "Gringos". Australians are

>from their National bird). Germans are "Krauts" (obviously a shortening of >sauerkraut, a favorite National food). The British, (the MG connection), >are "Brits", "Limeys", or "Poms". The derivation of "Brit" is obvious. I >can venture a guess as to the derivation of "Limey". I believe there was a >popular expression in Elizabethan England which went, "Blame me for the >bloody corpse of Christ" which would have been used in a way similar to the >way, today, we might say "well, f**k me" or, "I'll be damned" to express >dismay or consternation. In time, this original Elizabethan expression >yielded four separate expletives, "blame me" with a Cockney accent, became

>original Elizabethan expression yielded are the ever popular "Bloody!",

>is, where does "Pom" come from? Of course "pomme" is French for apple but I >can't figure a connection and everybody knows the French are "Frogs" anyway. >I am genuinely curious and mean no offense to anyone. > >Incidentally, the previous few sentences have caused my computer's spell >checker to assume the fetal position in a corner of my monitor screen with >its thumb in its mouth. > >Postus Scriptus: It has occurred to me that another, and perhaps more >likely, possible derivation for "limey" would be as a reference to the >lime-rich and well known Dover white cliffs. >P.S.#2: In some quarters of the globe, we Americans are also known as "the >great satan" - but I don't know why..... > >Inquiring Badgers want to know > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/'>[url=http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lodge" wargs@mac.com> To: "Benson" Carole_Ron@benson30.fsnet.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 > Ron, > SUPPOSEDLY, during the Norman Conquest, all Anglo-Saxon archers caught by > the Normans had their two arrow fingers amputated - without anaesthetic, > presumably - and any who escaped waved their two good fingers at the > oppressors, as we do to those who offend nowadays. > Regards, David Lodge > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > Got back from sunny climes last week and still trolling through > > all the e mail when this one from Mr Brock caught my eye Looks like you've > > got all the answers. Ever wondered why we Brits put two fingers up as a mark > > of displeasure i,e other bad drivers? No offence meant just another olde > > English custom that dates even further back. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:17 AM > > Subject: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 > > > > > > > > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > > Subject: Yanks, Ausies, and Poms. > > > > Okay. > > Here's a quasi-pukka question regarding a word derivation. A subject which > > I find at least as interesting as tonneau cover snaps. > > We Americans are "Yanks" or in some areas, "Gringos". Australians are > > "Ausies" (A shortened form of Australian), New Zealanders are "Kiwis" ( > > from their National bird). Germans are "Krauts" (obviously a shortening of > > sauerkraut, a favorite National food). The British, (the MG connection), > > are "Brits", "Limeys", or "Poms". The derivation of "Brit" is obvious. I > > can venture a guess as to the derivation of "Limey". I believe there was a > > popular expression in Elizabethan England which went, "Blame me for the > > bloody corpse of Christ" which would have been used in a way similar to the > > way, today, we might say "well, f**k me" or, "I'll be damned" to express > > dismay or consternation. In time, this original Elizabethan expression > > yielded four separate expletives, "blame me" with a Cockney accent, became > > "blimey!" And hence, "Limey". The other three expletives which the > > original Elizabethan expression yielded are the ever popular "Bloody!", > > "Cor!" (again, corpse with a Cockney accent), and "Christ!". My question > > is, where does "Pom" come from? Of course "pomme" is French for apple but I > > can't figure a connection and everybody knows the French are "Frogs" anyway. > > I am genuinely curious and mean no offense to anyone. > > > > Incidentally, the previous few sentences have caused my computer's spell > > checker to assume the fetal position in a corner of my monitor screen with > > its thumb in its mouth. > > > > Postus Scriptus: It has occurred to me that another, and perhaps more > > likely, possible derivation for "limey" would be as a reference to the > > lime-rich and well known Dover white cliffs. > > P.S.#2: In some quarters of the globe, we Americans are also known as "the > > great satan" - but I don't know why..... > > > > Inquiring Badgers want to know > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > >

> Hi David, > That's exactly as I was led to believe as well sorry for > delay in replying others using PC and out in MG. > P.S. What's all the grief about using MG's on Independence Day anyway? We've > got pub's that go back further. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lodge" wargs@mac.com> > To: "Benson" Carole_Ron@benson30.fsnet.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 5:30 PM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 > > >> Ron, >> SUPPOSEDLY, during the Norman Conquest, all Anglo-Saxon archers caught by >> the Normans had their two arrow fingers amputated - without anaesthetic, >> presumably - and any who escaped waved their two good fingers at the >> oppressors, as we do to those who offend nowadays. >> Regards, David Lodge >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi All, >>> Got back from sunny climes last week and still trolling through >>> all the e mail when this one from Mr Brock caught my eye Looks like > you've >>> got all the answers. Ever wondered why we Brits put two fingers up as a > mark >>> of displeasure i,e other bad drivers? No offence meant just another olde >>> English custom that dates even further back. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >>> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:17 AM >>> Subject: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> >>> Subject: Yanks, Ausies, and Poms. >>> >>> Okay. >>> Here's a quasi-pukka question regarding a word derivation. A subject > which >>> I find at least as interesting as tonneau cover snaps. >>> We Americans are "Yanks" or in some areas, "Gringos". Australians are >>> "Ausies" (A shortened form of Australian), New Zealanders are "Kiwis" ( >>> from their National bird). Germans are "Krauts" (obviously a shortening > of >>> sauerkraut, a favorite National food). The British, (the MG > connection), >>> are "Brits", "Limeys", or "Poms". The derivation of "Brit" is obvious. > I >>> can venture a guess as to the derivation of "Limey". I believe there > was a >>> popular expression in Elizabethan England which went, "Blame me for the >>> bloody corpse of Christ" which would have been used in a way similar to > the >>> way, today, we might say "well, f**k me" or, "I'll be damned" to express >>> dismay or consternation. In time, this original Elizabethan expression >>> yielded four separate expletives, "blame me" with a Cockney accent, > became >>> "blimey!" And hence, "Limey". The other three expletives which the >>> original Elizabethan expression yielded are the ever popular "Bloody!", >>> "Cor!" (again, corpse with a Cockney accent), and "Christ!". My > question >>> is, where does "Pom" come from? Of course "pomme" is French for apple > but I >>> can't figure a connection and everybody knows the French are "Frogs" > anyway. >>> I am genuinely curious and mean no offense to anyone. >>> >>> Incidentally, the previous few sentences have caused my computer's spell >>> checker to assume the fetal position in a corner of my monitor screen > with >>> its thumb in its mouth. >>> >>> Postus Scriptus: It has occurred to me that another, and perhaps more >>> likely, possible derivation for "limey" would be as a reference to the >>> lime-rich and well known Dover white cliffs. >>> P.S.#2: In some quarters of the globe, we Americans are also known as > "the >>> great satan" - but I don't know why..... >>> >>> Inquiring Badgers want to know >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>> >>> >> >> > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >