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TD - Off subject
Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 1:19 pm
by DenKlemm@aol.com
I have a TD that has set for quite some time. Apparently the clutch disc has
glued itself to the flywheel. The clutch pedal travel is right, the throw
bearing shaft is moving (~3/8"), but the flywheel remains coupled to the
transmission. I've tried bumping the car with the starter in gear, but it is
still stuck. Any suggestions.
Thanks for your help.
Dennis Klemm
34PA
36TA
38VA
51TD
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Re: TD - Off subject
Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 2:19 pm
by tom metcalf
Dennis, just jack rear axle off the ground with somebody at the wheel. Start
engine with rear tires up and g'box in neutral. Rev engine slightly and drop
the jack quickly. Great fun. Clutch disk usually pops free and it's a great
way of testing your half shafts. tommm
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> I have a TD that has set for quite some time. Apparently the clutch disc
has
> glued itself to the flywheel. The clutch pedal travel is right, the throw
> bearing shaft is moving (~3/8"), but the flywheel remains coupled to the
> transmission. I've tried bumping the car with the starter in gear, but it
is
> still stuck. Any suggestions.
> Thanks for your help.
> Dennis Klemm
> 34PA
> 36TA
> 38VA
> 51TD
>
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Re: TD - Off subject
Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 2:37 pm
by yd3@nvc.net
Tomm:
I think you'd better try describing that process again, as leaving the
gear box in nuetral isn't the way to do it.
Blake
Re: TD - Off subject
Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 2:40 pm
by Clive Sherriff
I'D SUGGEST IT WILL BE SAFER TO JUST PRESS THE FOOTBRAKE!
The usual method is jack up the rear and support the chassis too.
Get the engine warm so it starts easy
Put in second and start up so wheels spin
Run in gear up to a decent revs - 2500 - 3000
Press down Clutch
Hit footbrake
Big Bang
Clutch usually free
Else repeat with more vigour!
Clive
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Dennis, just jack rear axle off the ground with somebody at the wheel. Start
engine with rear tires up and g'box in neutral. Rev engine slightly and drop
the jack quickly. Great fun. Clutch disk usually pops free and it's a great
way of testing your half shafts. tommm
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From: DenKlemm@aol.com>
To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 4:19 PM
Subject: [mg-tabc] TD - Off subject
> I have a TD that has set for quite some time. Apparently the clutch disc
has
> glued itself to the flywheel.
Re: TD - Off subject
Posted: Mon May 27, 2002 3:01 pm
by Chip Hellie
Dennis,
Why bother the hassal with jacking up the car. Just
plop it in gear and start it. Then with the clutch
pedal down, nail the throttle on and off a few times
and it shall unstick! Make sure your passenger has
their hand over their Gin and tonic or they will be
wearing their drink!
Chip Hellie (the other Chip)
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DenKlemm@aol.com wrote:
> I have a TD that has set for quite some time.
> Apparently the clutch disc has
> glued itself to the flywheel. The clutch pedal
> travel is right, the throw
> bearing shaft is moving (~3/8"), but the flywheel
> remains coupled to the
> transmission. I've tried bumping the car with the
> starter in gear, but it is
> still stuck. Any suggestions.
> Thanks for your help.
> Dennis Klemm
> 34PA
> 36TA
> 38VA
> 51TD
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>
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Re: TD - Off subject
Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 1:32 am
by Clive Sherriff
You're missing the point - the clutch is stuck! All you get
from your idea is a bent starter motor shaft
Clive
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>>>Dennis,
Why bother the hassal with jacking up the car. Just
plop it in gear and start it. Then with the clutch
pedal down, nail the throttle on and off a few times
and it shall unstick! Make sure your passenger has
their hand over their Gin and tonic or they will be
wearing their drink!
Chip Hellie (the other Chip)
Re: TD - Off subject
Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 3:12 am
by i.thomson@talk21.com
Interesting ideas about freeing off a stuck clutch here and most inaccurate or at least not fully explained. Jacking up the car and starting the engine will have the rear wheel(s) turning through the stuck clutch. Revving the engine with your foot on the clutch and then applying the brake will usually clear it with a frighteningly loud bang. Make sure the car is well supported though - and if you have a LSD lift both wheels off the floor! If you don't trust the car not to jump off the stands and head off through the garage door you can do the same thing on the road. Just find a clear stretch of road (difficult when you can't drive the car), start it in gear (hopping forward while starting) and when under way push the clutch and brake in that order. Once again same bang but different danger if there is other traffic around. Best bet is to keep the clutch depressed when laid up (stick against the seat or clamp on the chain).
Good Lock.
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Re: TD - Off subject
Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 11:32 am
by Tombutlercpa@cs.com
With reguard to the stuck cluch, most of the cluch/brake solutions do sound
dangereous. Is not cluch damaged anyway? Why not pull trans & rebuild cluch?
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Re: TD - Off subject
Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 2:08 pm
by Jennifer and Hugh Pite
Hi Tom, it is very unlikely that the clutch will be damaged. The process of
jacking up the rear of the car and driving the wheels is safe provided good
blocking is used. For added safety remove the rear road wheels. The reason
not to pull the trans and rebuild the clutch is that it is a relatively big
job and totally unnecessary. To unstick a clutch should take a very short
time (5 or 10 min.).
Regards, Hugh
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> With reguard to the stuck cluch, most of the cluch/brake solutions do
sound
> dangereous. Is not cluch damaged anyway? Why not pull trans & rebuild
cluch?
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Re: TD - Off subject
Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 4:08 pm
by Chip Hellie
Clive, I'm not missing the point, You have a stuck
clutch clutch and I can unstick it for you with no
hassel.
First, start the engine and warm it up.
next, shut it off, put the car in say 2nd { 1st is
usually on the verge of exploding so avoid)
Then, with the clutch pedal pushed down, turn key,
pull starter and off you'll go. Your just being
paranoid about thr starter, but if you seek comfort,
have someone help push the car to start.
I find if you hit the brakes, the car will just die,
unless you have 3 legs and can push the clutch, add
brakes and have gas on @ the same time.
Just nail the throttle on and off rapidly and use all
the might of your mighty 1250 to jerk the clutch
loose.
I forgot to mention it doesn't hurt to have a couple
of Large Chicks in the back and a slight incline
helps.
All jokeing aside, It will work. I should know. I've
done it more than once
Chip Hellie
46 TC, 49TC, 3 MGA's, 2 MGB's, 2 Aston Martins, 2 Jag
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Clive Sherriff clive.sherriff@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> You're missing the point - the clutch is stuck! All
> you get
> from your idea is a bent starter motor shaft
>
> Clive
> ============================
>
> >>>Dennis,
> Why bother the hassal with jacking up the car. Just
> plop it in gear and start it. Then with the clutch
> pedal down, nail the throttle on and off a few times
> and it shall unstick! Make sure your passenger has
> their hand over their Gin and tonic or they will be
> wearing their drink!
> Chip Hellie (the other Chip)
>
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