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Posted: **Mon May 13, 2002 7:23 pm**

Anyone know how the aluminum sill/threshold plates are attached to the TC body (at the bottom of the door openings)? Are they attached with screws or tacks? What are the attaching points? Thanks, Mark Stolzenburg TC 7812 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Mon May 13, 2002 9:09 pm**

Mark, The sill plates are attatched with seven #4 oval (raised countersunk) slotted screws. We use stainless steel sheet metal screws now rather than wood screws due to the better bite. The pattern is like this... [: . The MG Car . Company Ltd . :] but the 3 holes around MGCCLtd are centered in the plate. If using the blank side - which is correct for a TC, the same hole pattern applies. Don't forget to countersink the 7 holes in each plate so the screw head is flush and drill pilot holes into the new ash so you don't snap the small screws. Use bees wax for lube. Good luck! Tommm F2 PB TC

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Stolzenburg" stolzy40@peoplepc.com> To: "mg-tabc List" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:22 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] Threshold Plate/Sill Plate > Anyone know how the aluminum sill/threshold plates are attached to the TC body (at the bottom of the door openings)? Are they attached with screws or tacks? What are the attaching points? > Thanks, > Mark Stolzenburg > TC 7812 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

Posted: **Tue May 14, 2002 5:21 am**

Hi All, I always thought the sill plates were aftermarket on TC's . Early TC's like TA/B roadsters dont even have the complete sill covered with metal..the inner piece of sheet metal was only added by the factory to late TC's to prevent complaints that the wood sill was "wearing away" (story told to me by Henry Stone who worked at Abingdon for 43 years) What does Sherrells TC book have to say on the originality aspect ? TA/B Tickfords did have an aluminium sill plate stating the coach builders name (Salmons of Newport-Pagnell). Lets discuss this subject instead of all that garbage thats been on the list of recent. I've been away and off the list for 15 months and have rejoined it for only the past 2 weeks...must admit that I have been within a "fanny hair" of quitting. It IS good to be back though. Regards Harry Pyle

----- Original Message ----- From: "tom metcalf" mgtom@bright.net> To: "mg-tabc List" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Mark Stolzenburg" stolzy40@peoplepc.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Threshold Plate/Sill Plate > Mark, > > The sill plates are attatched with seven #4 oval (raised countersunk) > slotted screws. We use stainless steel sheet metal screws now rather than > wood screws due to the better bite. > > The pattern is like this... [: . The MG Car . Company Ltd > . :] but the 3 holes around MGCCLtd are centered in the > plate. If using the blank side - which is correct for a TC, the same hole > pattern applies. Don't forget to countersink the 7 holes in each plate so > the screw head is flush and drill pilot holes into the new ash so you don't > snap the small screws. Use bees wax for lube. > > Good luck! > > Tommm F2 PB TC > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Stolzenburg" stolzy40@peoplepc.com> > To: "mg-tabc List" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:22 PM > Subject: [mg-tabc] Threshold Plate/Sill Plate > > > > Anyone know how the aluminum sill/threshold plates are attached to the TC > body (at the bottom of the door openings)? Are they attached with screws or > tacks? What are the attaching points? > > Thanks, > > Mark Stolzenburg > > TC 7812 > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

Posted: **Tue May 14, 2002 5:24 am**

My TC 1966 does not have the covered sill and never has ( I know because it has been in the family since new ) When I renewed the body tub several years ago ( Naylor in UK ) I asked that the covering be left off the new body. Charles Shiplee

Posted: **Tue May 14, 2002 5:44 am**

Harry, You're right, MMM, TA, TB, and early TCs do NOT have sheet metal inner linings around the door jams. However, they all DO have the sill plates along the threshold (low horizontal edge) of the jam. MMM, TA, and TB had "MG Car Company Ltd" photo etched and black filled on these plates and the original ones I've been lucky enough to see have been polished alloy rather than brushed like today's repros. The pair on my PB were actually quite nice having been protected by 3 coats of respray (rebrush) - black, green, and white (latex house paint, I swear). The Salmons & Sons plates on the TA-B Tickfords actually are on the lower door panel just below the pocket, not on the threshold. The sill plates on the Tickfords were plain aluminum, although we use polished stainless now. Welcome back, Harry! Tommm

> Hi All, > > I always thought the sill plates were aftermarket on TC's > . > Early TC's like TA/B roadsters dont even have the complete sill covered

with

> metal..the inner piece of sheet metal was only added by the factory to

late

> TC's to prevent complaints that the wood sill was "wearing away" (story

told

> to me by Henry Stone who worked at Abingdon for 43 years) > > What does Sherrells TC book have to say on the originality aspect ? > > TA/B Tickfords did have an aluminium sill plate stating the coach builders > name (Salmons of Newport-Pagnell). > > Lets discuss this subject instead of all that garbage thats been on the

list

> of recent. I've been away and off the list for 15 months and have rejoined > it for only the past 2 weeks...must admit that I have been within a "fanny > hair" of quitting. > > It IS good to be back though. > > Regards Harry Pyle > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "tom metcalf" mgtom@bright.net> > To: "mg-tabc List" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Mark Stolzenburg" > stolzy40@peoplepc.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 12:09 PM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Threshold Plate/Sill Plate > > > > Mark, > > > > The sill plates are attatched with seven #4 oval (raised countersunk) > > slotted screws. We use stainless steel sheet metal screws now rather

than

> > wood screws due to the better bite. > > > > The pattern is like this... [: . The MG Car . Company > Ltd > > . :] but the 3 holes around MGCCLtd are centered in

the

> > plate. If using the blank side - which is correct for a TC, the same

hole

> > pattern applies. Don't forget to countersink the 7 holes in each plate

so

> > the screw head is flush and drill pilot holes into the new ash so you > don't > > snap the small screws. Use bees wax for lube. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Tommm F2 PB TC > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Stolzenburg" stolzy40@peoplepc.com> > > To: "mg-tabc List" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:22 PM > > Subject: [mg-tabc] Threshold Plate/Sill Plate > > > > > > > Anyone know how the aluminum sill/threshold plates are attached to the > TC > > body (at the bottom of the door openings)? Are they attached with

screws

> or > > tacks? What are the attaching points? > > > Thanks, > > > Mark Stolzenburg > > > TC 7812 > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

> > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

Posted: **Tue May 14, 2002 5:59 am**

In a message dated 5/14/02 05:45:47 Pacific Daylight Time, mgtom@bright.net writes: > Just for the record, the sill plates on our SA Tickford were chrome plated brass........and I'm sure these were original. We reused them inspite of some scratches make by the sagging door..... Good to have Harry back on line! Cheers Terry in earthquake country!

Posted: **Wed May 15, 2002 9:50 am**

HI Harry, nice to have you back. The TC parts list, section M, gives the door tread plates, part number(L/H) 19332 R/H 19333, finished after 4836 bodies. Part Number (L/H) MB 21259, R/H MB21260 (these are presumably the unlettered type and I thus wonder why R & L required?), commenced at 4837 bodies.Repro's only make one which has to be fitted to both sides. I wonder what differences there were on the originals?. The body number identification raises the old question of what this means. Clem [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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