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Re: Digest Number 822
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2002 1:22 pm
by Benson
Hi All,
Not exactly a question on plug wires but plugs(sparking). Got any
tips on what type of plugs I should be using now I,m unleaded and got TF
valves and! a slightly higher comp. ratio?
Also what jet size and needle for 1 1/2 SU carbs?
The Suns getting hotter in N. Yorks.
Regards,
Ron Benson TB
Re: Digest Number 822
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2002 3:01 pm
by joecurto@aol.com
Ron I run GJ needles and stock .090 jet for TF type spec, LS1 (TD MK2) is
very rich. Start out with GJ and go from there.
Joe curto
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Re: Digest Number 822
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2002 8:34 am
by Skip Kelsey
Ron:
I agree with Joe Curto. If you have hotted up your HP with high
compression, cam, bigger bore, and maybe an extractor exhaust, then I would
recommend EL needles with the 1 1/2 SUs. This works quite well. On my own
car with the above, I will burn valves with the GJ needles. The engine is
just too efficient for the stock TF needles.
Skip Kelsey.........................................................At
09:21 PM 4/25/02 +0100, Benson wrote:
>Also what jet size and needle for 1 1/2 SU carbs?
Re: Digest Number 822
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 9:35 am
by Benson
----- Original Message -----
From: "John T. Seim" kingseim@earthlink.net>
To: "Benson" Carole_Ron@benson30.fsnet.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 822
> 1/2" reach threaded hole in head, or 3/4" threaded hole?
>
Hi John,
I thought all XPAG heads used 1/2" reach plugs, the one that I
have modified is not the original head and I am not sure what it is off. Is
it just a case of measuring?
Regards,
Ron Benson TB
Re: Digest Number 822
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 10:27 am
by Chip Old
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Benson wrote:
> I thought all XPAG heads used 1/2" reach plugs, the one that I have
> modified is not the original head and I am not sure what it is off. Is
> it just a case of measuring?
XPAG heads use either 1/2" or 3/4" thread length plugs, depending on age.
The heads used on the TB, TC, and early TD use 1/2". The heads used on
the late TD, TF, and TF 1500 (XPEG) use 3/4".
There is no need to measure, as there are several other indicators. If
the head is on the engine, look for a casting number on the top surface of
the head, right front corner. If it is "22952", it's an early head.
If the number is something else (I forget what) or nonexistant, it's a
late head.
If the head is off the engine you can tell by looking at the small water
passage holes that carry coolant between the block and the head. If they
are oblong (some say banana-shaped) it's an early head. If they are round
it's a late head. The early head is sometimes referred to as a "banana
head" and the late head as a "round head" due to the shape of the water
holes.
XPAG engine blocks also have either oblong or round water holes, again
following the "TB through early TD" and "late TD and TF" pattern. It's
okay to use a late head on an early engine or vice versa, as long as you
use the appropriate head gasket. If head and block both have oblong water
holes, use a gasket with oblong water holes. If head and block both have
round holes, use a gasket with round holes. If you use a head of one type
on a block of the other type, use a gasket with oblong water holes.
--
Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271
Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E
fold@bcpl.net
Re: Digest Number 822
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 11:33 am
by Skip Kelsey
Chip:
I have been running a "bannana" block, bored .100, and a "round" head for
the past 40 years, using a TF-1500 head gasket. Due to the overbore, and
not wanting the gasket to overhang the cyls. It has never given me any
trouble. The current rebuild,now has 55,000 miles on it, and is heading for
Durango,Co. in June to the GoF.
SKip Kelsey..................................................
At 01:27 PM 4/27/02 -0400, Chip Old wrote:
>holes, use a gasket with oblong water holes. If head and block both have
>round holes, use a gasket with round holes. If you use a head of one type
>on a block of the other type, use a gasket with oblong water holes
Re: Digest Number 822
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2002 1:17 pm
by Chip Old
On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Skip Kelsey wrote to Chip Old and MG-TABC:
> Chip:
>
> I have been running a "bannana" block, bored .100, and a "round" head
> for the past 40 years, using a TF-1500 head gasket. Due to the overbore,
> and not wanting the gasket to overhang the cyls. It has never given me
> any trouble. The current rebuild,now has 55,000 miles on it, and is
> heading for Durango,Co. in June to the GoF.
Yes, if the amount of overbore requires an XPEG head gasket, then you
don't have much choice unless you get a gasket custom made. The problem I
used to run into with a round-hole gasket and a banana block or head was
due to the way one copper layer is (or at least used to be) wrapped back
over around the edges of the holes. If the edges weren't crimped together
between head and block, coolant would gradually seep into the core of the
gasket. Eventually the core would disintegrate.
Maybe I just bought cheap gaskets.

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Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271
Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E
fold@bcpl.net