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Stub Axels...

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2002 5:34 am
by Rob & Tammy Greaves
Message: 6 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 18:57:21 EDT From: Tombutlercpa@cs.com Subject: Stub axels and king pins Noticing some 12:00/6:00 wobble in my front wheels... If someone could repost the comments re: fitting the front hubs... I noted Bob Grunau's comments to your question...He had walked me through this same process a couple years ago when I fixed up my front wheels. I used the tapered bearings in place of the original bearings. All wisdom says to ensure the spacers are included in order that they take some of the weight of the vehicle when all is tightened up. The spacers of course were placed in between the two taper bearings. I then went through the process of tightening the castle nut and attempting to spin the front wheel. It is almost guaranteed that your wheel will not spin freely at this point as the tapered bearings are being jammed together. Life-saver shaped shims will then have to be added over the stub axel to sit against the spacer until the wheel turns freely. I had bought some 5 and 20 thou. shim stock and used my trusty Dremel tool to shape the spacers. I recall adding a couple shims on the inner side of the spacer and a few on the outside of the spacer until when I tightened up the castle nut the wheel turns freely. I hope that makes sense. Rob Greaves

Re: Stub Axels...

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2002 7:00 pm
by Ray
I used MGB front wheel bearing shims for the king pins. They come in various sizes and are cheap. And, they fit! Best, Ray
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob & Tammy Greaves" t.greaves@hyperlinx.net> To: Tombutlercpa@cs.com>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:32 AM Subject: [mg-tabc] Stub Axels... Message: 6 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 18:57:21 EDT From: Tombutlercpa@cs.com Subject: Stub axels and king pins Noticing some 12:00/6:00 wobble in my front wheels... If someone could repost the comments re: fitting the front hubs... I noted Bob Grunau's comments to your question...He had walked me through this same process a couple years ago when I fixed up my front wheels. I used the tapered bearings in place of the original bearings. All wisdom says to ensure the spacers are included in order that they take some of the weight of the vehicle when all is tightened up. The spacers of course were placed in between the two taper bearings. I then went through the process of tightening the castle nut and attempting to spin the front wheel. It is almost guaranteed that your wheel will not spin freely at this point as the tapered bearings are being jammed together. Life-saver shaped shims will then have to be added over the stub axel to sit against the spacer until the wheel turns freely. I had bought some 5 and 20 thou. shim stock and used my trusty Dremel tool to shape the spacers. I recall adding a couple shims on the inner side of the spacer and a few on the outside of the spacer until when I tightened up the castle nut the wheel turns freely. I hope that makes sense. Rob Greaves

Re: Stub Axels...

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2002 9:11 pm
by wargs
Ray, If I get your drift, these washers fit between the thrust face of the axle eye (i.e. underneath) and the stub axle to compensate for wear? I only ask because I'll be there shortly. David Lodge Ray wrote:
>I used MGB front wheel bearing shims for the king pins. They come in >various sizes and are cheap. >And, they fit! >Best, >Ray >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Rob & Tammy Greaves" t.greaves@hyperlinx.net> >To: Tombutlercpa@cs.com>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:32 AM >Subject: [mg-tabc] Stub Axels... > > > >Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 18:57:21 EDT > From: Tombutlercpa@cs.com >Subject: Stub axels and king pins > >Noticing some 12:00/6:00 wobble in my front wheels... > >If someone could repost the comments re: fitting the front hubs... > >I noted Bob Grunau's comments to your question...He had walked me through >this same process a couple years ago when I fixed up my front wheels. I >used the tapered bearings in place of the original bearings. All wisdom >says to ensure the spacers are included in order that they take some of the >weight of the vehicle when all is tightened up. The spacers of course were >placed in between the two taper bearings. I then went through the process >of tightening the castle nut and attempting to spin the front wheel. It is >almost guaranteed that your wheel will not spin freely at this point as the >tapered bearings are being jammed together. Life-saver shaped shims will >then have to be added over the stub axel to sit against the spacer until the >wheel turns freely. I had bought some 5 and 20 thou. shim stock and used my >trusty Dremel tool to shape the spacers. I recall adding a couple shims on >the inner side of the spacer and a few on the outside of the spacer until >when I tightened up the castle nut the wheel turns freely. > >I hope that makes sense. > >Rob Greaves > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

Re: Stub Axels...

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:59 am
by Chip Old
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, wargs wrote to Ray:
> If I get your drift, these washers fit between the thrust face of the > axle eye (i.e. underneath) and the stub axle to compensate for wear? I > only ask because I'll be there shortly.
No, you fit them above the axle, between the axle and the steering knuckle, not below the axle where the bronze thrust washer is. They are intended only to eliminate vertical play caused by wear (or mis-sizing) of the bronze thrust weasher, not to carry the weight of the car. -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E fold@bcpl.net

Re: Stub Axels...

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:30 am
by wargs
Thanks, Chip David Lodge Chip Old wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, wargs wrote to Ray: If I get your drift, these washers fit between the thrust face of the axle eye (i.e. underneath) and the stub axle to compensate for wear? I only ask because I'll be there shortly.
No, you fit them above the axle, between the axle and the steering knuckle, not below the axle where the bronze thrust washer is. They are intended only to eliminate vertical play caused by wear (or mis-sizing) of the bronze thrust weasher, not to carry the weight of the car. -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E fold@bcpl.net Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/