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I can't take it anymore....
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 10:38 pm
by ross macpherson
Sorry Jim but I just don't have the time to wade through the piles of dross
our list is generating lately. Please unsubscribe me. I will miss many of
the list members and their valuable input. I will NOT miss the strident
nationalism, the originality police/hot rodder debate and the other boring
non-informative threads. I had hoped this list would rise above others I've
been party to but I guess it's just the nature of the beast. I hope to
rejoin the list sometime in the future (when I have more time and more
patience). I wish all members and their cars well but I just don't have the
time for this now.
With regret,
Ross MacPherson
PS if you can, please confirm my "unsubscription".
PPS If I never personally said it before allow me now to express my
gratitude to you and Walter for the time and effort you expend on our
behalf. I have been involved in this kind of undertaking in the distant
past so I can almost appreciate the commitment to the project you two have
made; my hat's off to you both. Thank you.
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Re: I can't take it anymore....
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 11:30 pm
by Austin R. Baer
Can't say some of didn't see it coming, Ross. I couldn't agree with you more. This was never intended as a "chat room", and some of us are just barely hanging on. We need a "bullshit police" more than we need the bullshit, in my not-so-humble opinion. Austin
Re: I can't take it anymore....
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2002 11:33 pm
by Austin R. Baer
Can't say some of didn't see it coming, Ross. I couldn't agree with you more. This was never intended as a "chat room", and some of us are just barely hanging on. We need a "bullshit police" more than we need the bullshit, in my not-so-humble opinion. I'll be on vacation for ten days, with a 2-1/2 lb. lead hammer resting on my delete key. Austin
Re: I can't take it anymore....
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2002 7:30 am
by CFritz7001@aol.com
Ross,
Although I agree with some of your irritation over the non-informative
drivel that appears on the TABC list, I think that you are taking exactly the
WRONG approach to the problem by leaving the list yourself. You are cutting
yourself off from a source that is unique.
May I suggest the following:
1) Realize that you don't have to actually read every msg that comes in,
and use the DELETE button more liberally.
2) On an occasion when someone posts the type of msg which you find
objectionable, send that one person (not the entire TABC list) a msg telling
them so, and why you object. You can store such a msg in "mail waiting to be
sent", and not have to re-enter it every time you want to use it.
3) It seems to me that ALL list members have an OBLIGATION to be
something MORE than mere "LURKERS". In other words, we all must contribute
information, and questions. We have only ourselves to blame if msgs posted
are inappropriate.
4) As TABC owners, we are all in the same boat, a SMALL number of
otherwise isolated individuals. We need each other.
Thus endeth the sermon for today.
Regards,
Carl Fritz
TC # 6756 (Betsy)
VA # 2009 S (Abigail)
Gainesville, Florida
Re: I can't take it anymore....
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2002 7:55 am
by Badger
Of course it's a chat room Austin. That is, it's a bunch of guys who love cars getting together over a couple of virtual beers. How the Hell can you imagine that the world's longest marathon game of MG Trivial Pursuit could possibly be tolerable without anyone ever cracking a smile or poking fun or expressing an opinion contrary to your own rigid one. I am far more heavily involved in cars (not just MGs) than 95% of you other guys, I've shown cars at Pebble Beach, I vintage raced for years, I owned and operated a restoration shop for years. I've owned them all and driven them all from W.O. Bentleys to many Aston Martins, a hundred or more MGs, Bugattis, Ferraris, Maseratis, Rolls Royce, Alvis, Etc. Etc. Etc. and I gotta tell ya guys, it really ain't about what color your header tank is or how many holes you have in your firewall. It's about the wind in your hair, and enjoying life, and laughter, and a little glimpse of the world through a windscreen of 50 years ago. It's about freedom and sex - yes, that's right, freedom - and - sex because, for many (most) (all) of us, that's exactly what these cars symbolized way back when we where 16 and 17 - and they still do (or should!). An old car, like life, like sex is inherently imperfect and anyone who can't just lay back and enjoy it for what it is without nit-picking it half to death or enjoy a chuckle without notifying the "bullshit police" is just another old fart ready for "the home". I do know what it's all about. For many of you guys, these cars represent one's own youth or, more accurately, they are a monument dedicated to one's own youth and therefore they must be "perfect" in every detail and deadly serious like most mausoleum statuary. Hey, do what you want pal but I'm gonna say what I want so don't give me no crap about "bullshit police". Badger, Still crazy after all these years.
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Can't say some of didn't see it coming, Ross. I couldn't agree with you more. This was never intended as a "chat room", and some of us are just barely hanging on. We need a "bullshit police" more than we need the bullshit, in my not-so-humble opinion. I'll be on vacation for ten days, with a 2-1/2 lb. lead hammer resting on my delete key. Austin
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Re: I can't take it anymore....
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2002 8:11 am
by MGTDFL@aol.com
Carl got me hooked up with this site a few years back. I own a 52 TD and I have obtained alot of valuable info from your TC site. I do delete alot but I sure gain alot also. The subject line is the biggest clue! I agree with Carl.
Don
52 TD #17700
Re: I can't take it anymore....
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2002 8:26 am
by Dave Osborn
I was away this weekend till Tuesday. When I got back, I had 123 emails,
with the preponderance of them from the mg-tabc site. I'm not a fast
reader, but in opening each one, it didn't take more than a few seconds to
determine whether I needed/wanted to continue. In the first 5 minutes, I
was down to the few that I saved/skipped to read till later. My delete key
works wonderfully fast, and I enjoy being the master of what suits me. Keep
up the banter!!
Dave Osborn
TC 10217
TD 6551
-----Original Message-----
From:
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MGTDFL@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:11 AM
To:
CFritz7001@aol.com;
arm@telus.net
Cc:
mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] I can't take it anymore....
Carl got me hooked up with this site a few years back. I own a 52 TD and I
have obtained alot of valuable info from your TC site. I do delete alot but
I sure gain alot also. The subject line is the biggest clue! I agree with
Carl.
Don
52 TD #17700
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Re: I can't take it anymore....
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2002 8:29 am
by Ray
Rock on!
Best Regards,
Ray
"Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!"
----- Original Message -----
From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net>
To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] I can't take it anymore....
Of course it's a chat room Austin. That is, it's a bunch of guys who love
cars getting together over a couple of virtual beers. How the Hell can you
imagine that the world's longest marathon game of MG Trivial Pursuit could
possibly be tolerable without anyone ever cracking a smile or poking fun or
expressing an opinion contrary to your own rigid one.
I am far more heavily involved in cars (not just MGs) than 95% of you other
guys, I've shown cars at Pebble Beach, I vintage raced for years, I owned
and operated a restoration shop for years. I've owned Badger, Still crazy
after all these years.
----- Original Message -----
From: Austin R. Baer
To:
FDShade@aol.com ; Ross MacPherson
Cc: MG TABC List
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] I can't take it anymore....
Can't say some of didn't see it coming, Ross. I couldn't agree with you
more. This was never intended as a "chat room", and some of us are just
barely hanging on. We need a "bullshit police" more than we need the
bullshit, in my not-so-humble opinion.
I'll be on vacation for ten days, with a 2-1/2 lb. lead hammer resting on
my delete key.
Austin
Re: I can't take it anymore....
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2002 8:30 am
by Bruce Collins
Ross,
I too had the same feelings a couple of years back! And (I hope Murry will
appreciate this) I took my toys and left the group. Six months later, I came
back to my senses and rejoined. I'll admit that I was a REAL ASS over
quitting and am glad to be back.
I do agree that there are times when the members can get carried away and
like you get frustrated with the issues written. But, with any group, I have
come to realize that not everyone has a good day all the time.
I am a diehard Originality owner. But, these cars are getting older and
older and if it means some modifications to enjoy driving them, well......
so be it. It doesn't really matter in the long run.
I just like to see a T car drive by in this day and age.
I don't write much to the list and I do have my faithful "Delete Key" next
to me when it gets tooo much.
Sorry to see you leave and hope you too come back in the future.
Bruce Collins
TC #2721 XPAG #3355
PS: I can't agree with you more in regards to Jim and Walter's work! And
praises go out to Austin for the great Badge!
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross MacPherson arm@telus.net>
To: FDShade@aol.com>
Cc: MG TABC List mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:38 AM
Subject: [mg-tabc] I can't take it anymore....
>
> Sorry Jim but I just don't have the time to wade through the piles of
dross
> our list is generating lately. Please unsubscribe me. I will miss many
of
> the list members and their valuable input. I will NOT miss the strident
> nationalism, the originality police/hot rodder debate and the other boring
> non-informative threads. I had hoped this list would rise above others
I've
> been party to but I guess it's just the nature of the beast. I hope to
> rejoin the list sometime in the future (when I have more time and more
> patience). I wish all members and their cars well but I just don't have
the
> time for this now.
>
> With regret,
> Ross MacPherson
>
> PS if you can, please confirm my "unsubscription".
>
> PPS If I never personally said it before allow me now to express my
> gratitude to you and Walter for the time and effort you expend on our
> behalf. I have been involved in this kind of undertaking in the distant
> past so I can almost appreciate the commitment to the project you two have
> made; my hat's off to you both. Thank you.
> ---
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>
>
>
>
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>
>
Re: I can't take it anymore....
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2002 9:01 am
by Donald Wilkinson
HEAR, HEAR.
Don
>From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net>
>To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] I can't take it anymore....
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:52:05 -0500
>
>Of course it's a chat room Austin. That is, it's a bunch of guys who love
>cars getting together over a couple of virtual beers. How the Hell can you
>imagine that the world's longest marathon game of MG Trivial Pursuit could
>possibly be tolerable without anyone ever cracking a smile or poking fun or
>expressing an opinion contrary to your own rigid one.
>
>I am far more heavily involved in cars (not just MGs) than 95% of you other
>guys, I've shown cars at Pebble Beach, I vintage raced for years, I owned
>and operated a restoration shop for years. I've owned them all and driven
>them all from W.O. Bentleys to many Aston Martins, a hundred or more MGs,
>Bugattis, Ferraris, Maseratis, Rolls Royce, Alvis, Etc. Etc. Etc. and I
>gotta tell ya guys, it really ain't about what color your header tank is or
>how many holes you have in your firewall. It's about the wind in your
>hair, and enjoying life, and laughter, and a little glimpse of the world
>through a windscreen of 50 years ago. It's about freedom and sex - yes,
>that's right, freedom - and - sex because, for many (most) (all) of us,
>that's exactly what these cars symbolized way back when we where 16 and 17
>- and they still do (or should!). An old car, like life, like sex is
>inherently imperfect and anyone who can't just lay back and enjoy it for
>what it is without nit-picking it half to death or enjoy a chuckle without
>notifying the "bullshit police" is just another old fart ready for "the
>home".
>
>I do know what it's all about. For many of you guys, these cars represent
>one's own youth or, more accurately, they are a monument dedicated to one's
>own youth and therefore they must be "perfect" in every detail and deadly
>serious like most mausoleum statuary. Hey, do what you want pal but I'm
>gonna say what I want so don't give me no crap about "bullshit police".
>
>Badger, Still crazy after all these years.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Austin R. Baer
> To:
FDShade@aol.com ; Ross MacPherson
> Cc: MG TABC List
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 2:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] I can't take it anymore....
>
>
> Can't say some of didn't see it coming, Ross. I couldn't agree with you
>more. This was never intended as a "chat room", and some of us are just
>barely hanging on. We need a "bullshit police" more than we need the
>bullshit, in my not-so-humble opinion.
>
> I'll be on vacation for ten days, with a 2-1/2 lb. lead hammer resting
>on my delete key.
>
> Austin
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
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