Wilsons Sandbox

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Grunau" cgrunau@pathcom.com> To: "Neil Nelson" nwnel@bellsouth.net>; "Mg-Tabc@Yahoogroups. Com" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Step down headlight rims > Hi Neil, > I would expect the steel TC drums are out of round. A shoe not fitting > correctly will not cause a "surge". Jim Shades suggestion of a loose lining > is a possibility. Also check a wheel cylinder is not hanging up. Jack up the > front of the car and spin the wheels with light brake pedal pressure or > adjust the linings so the shoes make contact. If you can feel the drum > tighten up, then loosen, likely an out of round drum. > I have a number of used TC drums for sale if you only need one or two. > Also have new Alfin drums for sale. > Regards, Bob Grunau > > -----Original Message----- > From: Neil Nelson [mailto:nwnel@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 1:37 AM > To: Mg-Tabc@Yahoogroups. Com > Subject: [mg-tabc] Step down headlight rims > > Thanks to all who responded to my request for the step down rims. As it > turns out the owner of the car had a pair in the box of spares that came > with the car. (Now he tells us....). Took my TC out for a spin today and > the brakes are not much better than they used to be. It still "surges" to a > stop with light pressure on the pedal and pulls hard to the left on a hard > stop. I assume that the surge is out of round shoes or drums. Any ideas on > what to do to cure this? I need to try something to make the car more > pleasant to drive in the interim time before I spring for the new Alfin > drums. > > Neil > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 2/8/02 > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Norris" davenorris@breathemail.net> To: cgrunau@pathcom.com>; "Neil Nelson" nwnel@bellsouth.net>; "Mg-Tabc@Yahoogroups. Com" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Step down headlight rims > Neil, > If the drums are out of round you could get them skimmed by someone with a > brake lathe. I'm sure what the limits are for skimming drums, i.e. maximum > inside diameter. Anyone have this information? > Cheers, > Dave > TC9964 > Sunny Aberdeen (well it was sunny earlier....) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Grunau" cgrunau@pathcom.com> > To: "Neil Nelson" nwnel@bellsouth.net>; "Mg-Tabc@Yahoogroups. Com" > mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 12:49 PM > Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Step down headlight rims > > > > Hi Neil, > > I would expect the steel TC drums are out of round. A shoe not fitting > > correctly will not cause a "surge". Jim Shades suggestion of a loose > lining > > is a possibility. Also check a wheel cylinder is not hanging up. Jack up > the > > front of the car and spin the wheels with light brake pedal pressure or > > adjust the linings so the shoes make contact. If you can feel the drum > > tighten up, then loosen, likely an out of round drum. > > I have a number of used TC drums for sale if you only need one or two. > > Also have new Alfin drums for sale. > > Regards, Bob Grunau > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Neil Nelson [mailto:nwnel@bellsouth.net] > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 1:37 AM > > To: Mg-Tabc@Yahoogroups. Com > > Subject: [mg-tabc] Step down headlight rims > > > > Thanks to all who responded to my request for the step down rims. As it > > turns out the owner of the car had a pair in the box of spares that came > > with the car. (Now he tells us....). Took my TC out for a spin today and > > the brakes are not much better than they used to be. It still "surges" to > a > > stop with light pressure on the pedal and pulls hard to the left on a hard > > stop. I assume that the surge is out of round shoes or drums. Any ideas > on > > what to do to cure this? I need to try something to make the car more > > pleasant to drive in the interim time before I spring for the new Alfin > > drums. > > > > Neil > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.323 / Virus Database: 180 - Release Date: 2/8/02 > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

> If the drums are out of round you could get them skimmed by someone > with a brake lathe. I'm sure what the limits are for skimming drums, > i.e. maximum inside diameter. Anyone have this information?

> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Dave Norris wrote: > > If the drums are out of round you could get them skimmed by someone > with a brake lathe. I'm sure what the limits are for skimming drums, > i.e. maximum inside diameter. Anyone have this information? > >Problem is, the drums are already so thin they can't take much of a cut. >And being steel rather than the more commonly used cast iron, it won't be >long before they warp again. Warped steel drums might as well be thrown >away, or sold to someone building a trailor queen. > >At one time there were cast iron replacement drums available that worked >much better, but didn't look original. I don't know if they are still >available. If you want the best possible braking performance with >original appearance (or at least period aftermarket appearance), the best >solution, although expensive, is a set of Alfin drums as supplied by Bob >Gruneau and others. > >-- >Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 >Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E >fold@bcpl.net > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/'>[url=http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>

----- Original Message ----- From: i.thomson@talk21.com> To: fold@bcpl.net>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Step down headlight rims > While on this subject could I raise what is probably an old chestnut which I am sure you list veterans have already kicked around - that of the bands which some cars have had on the brake drums at one time. As I have only been lurking here for a few months and would be interested to know what the consensus is about this. When I bought my TC in 1966 (they were cheap enough for me to afford one then) it was fitted with these bands around the drums; presumably fitted as an aftermarket fix for the out of round problem. I expect they added an out of balance problem of their own though. I doubt if anybody fits them now; I certainly haven't seen any on a car, but I still have them hanging on the garage wall as a souvenir. > > Ian Thomson > > ---------- > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Dave Norris wrote: > > > > If the drums are out of round you could get them skimmed by someone > > with a brake lathe. I'm sure what the limits are for skimming drums, > > i.e. maximum inside diameter. Anyone have this information? > > > >Problem is, the drums are already so thin they can't take much of a cut. > >And being steel rather than the more commonly used cast iron, it won't be > >long before they warp again. Warped steel drums might as well be thrown > >away, or sold to someone building a trailor queen. > > > >At one time there were cast iron replacement drums available that worked > >much better, but didn't look original. I don't know if they are still > >available. If you want the best possible braking performance with > >original appearance (or at least period aftermarket appearance), the best > >solution, although expensive, is a set of Alfin drums as supplied by Bob > >Gruneau and others. > > > >-- > >Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 > >Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E > >fold@bcpl.net > > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://docs.yahoo.com/info /terms/'>[url=http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> > > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >