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article on coil springs
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2001 11:57 am
by Walter Prechsl privat
dear friends,
i tried to get the permission from r. knudson to publish the article "coil
return springs" by bob watts
from TSO 2/97, but unfortunately he refused my request. today i got the
answer.
so anybody who like to get that knowledge has to look for a copy of TSO or
become a member of
the north american MG club.
best regards
walter
Re: article on coil springs
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2001 1:05 pm
by Gates Family
Which is it - hiding someone else's light under a bushel or acting like a
dog in the manger? I think copyright prescribes after some 50 years so I
suggest we just hang in here, waiting with baited breath in the hope that
our grandchildren derive some benefit from the knowledge contained in the
article. And what the hell, my TC 8675 waited some 51 years before getting
into my hands so perhaps the article can be its early centenary birthday
present in 2047!
Joe Gates
TC*^&% (oops - 8675)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walter Prechsl privat" walter@publi-consult.com>
To: "tabc-list" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 02 October 2001 08:57
Subject: [mg-tabc] article on coil springs
> dear friends,
>
> i tried to get the permission from r. knudson to publish the article "coil
> return springs" by bob watts
> from TSO 2/97, but unfortunately he refused my request. today i got the
> answer.
>
> so anybody who like to get that knowledge has to look for a copy of TSO or
> become a member of
> the north american MG club.
>
> best regards
> walter
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
Re: article on coil springs
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2001 2:09 am
by C Sherriff
I've heard before that Knudson always refuses permission to reprint
no matter how trivial the work.
Perhaps not a REAL MG man who'd stop beside the road and lend a
hand !
Clive
============================================
>> dear friends,
>
> i tried to get the permission from r. knudson to publish the article
"coil
> return springs" by bob watts
> from TSO 2/97, but unfortunately he refused my request. today i got the
> answer.
>
> so anybody who like to get that knowledge has to look for a copy of TSO
or
> become a member of
> the north american MG club.
>
> best regards
> walter<
Re: article on coil springs
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2001 4:41 am
by Want1937hd@aol.com
Dick Knudson has done more for MG's and the people that own them than anyone
in the USA! He must have a reason for abiding to copyright laws. I'd ask him
before making that statement. Bob TC4956
>>
Re: article on coil springs
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2001 6:19 am
by joecurto@aol.com
Clive you are treading on thin ice what ever his reasons Knudson is MG personified.
Joe Curto
Re: article on coil springs
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2001 2:51 pm
by murray arundell
Im glad this thread came up as I was thinking of subscribing / joining the
NE T Regster. If this is the attitude that prevails then count me out.
Come to think of it a few things come back to me now that were told to me by
the late Phil Richer in the UK....... Lets just say Dick has some strange
ideas on how the MG world works, a very commercial view shall we say.......
Murray Arundell
----- Original Message -----
From: C Sherriff 100070.740@compuserve.com>
To: Gates Family janus@iafrica.com>
Cc: tabc-list mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; Walter Prechsl privat
walter@publi-consult.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] article on coil springs
> I've heard before that Knudson always refuses permission to reprint
> no matter how trivial the work.
>
> Perhaps not a REAL MG man who'd stop beside the road and lend a
> hand !
>
> Clive
>
> ============================================
>
> >> dear friends,
> >
> > i tried to get the permission from r. knudson to publish the article
> "coil
> > return springs" by bob watts
> > from TSO 2/97, but unfortunately he refused my request. today i got the
> > answer.
> >
> > so anybody who like to get that knowledge has to look for a copy of TSO
> or
> > become a member of
> > the north american MG club.
> >
> > best regards
> > walter
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
Re: article on coil springs
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2001 3:49 pm
by KEN PORTER
Murray:
It is not a strange idea or poor attitude. The material is copywrited. If you
want the magazine with the info in it you pay the dues and become a member of
the NEMGT Register. The dues paying members support the organization and pay for
the publication of the magazine. If the information is not free to the members
why should it be free to non members. Back issues are available for a small fee.
Ken TC 4147
Murray Arundell wrote:
> Im glad this thread came up as I was thinking of subscribing / joining the
> NE T Regster. If this is the attitude that prevails then count me out.
> Come to think of it a few things come back to me now that were told to me by
> the late Phil Richer in the UK....... Lets just say Dick has some strange
> ideas on how the MG world works, a very commercial view shall we say.......
>
> Murray Arundell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: C Sherriff 100070.740@compuserve.com>
> To: Gates Family janus@iafrica.com>
> Cc: tabc-list mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; Walter Prechsl privat
> walter@publi-consult.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 7:07 pm
> Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] article on coil springs
>
> > I've heard before that Knudson always refuses permission to reprint
> > no matter how trivial the work.
> >
> > Perhaps not a REAL MG man who'd stop beside the road and lend a
> > hand !
> >
> > Clive
> >
> > ============================================
> >
> > >> dear friends,
> > >
> > > i tried to get the permission from r. knudson to publish the article
> > "coil
> > > return springs" by bob watts
> > > from TSO 2/97, but unfortunately he refused my request. today i got the
> > > answer.
> > >
> > > so anybody who like to get that knowledge has to look for a copy of TSO
> > or
> > > become a member of
> > > the north american MG club.
> > >
> > > best regards
> > > walter >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: article on coil springs
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2001 3:04 am
by Jeff & Merryl Redman
G'day Joe! One thing in favour of treading on thin ice... You rarely get into hot water. Jeff
Re: article on coil springs
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2001 5:09 am
by KEN PORTER
Murray:
The club is about sharing. You just have to be a member to reap the benefits and
share. I belong to the Octagon Car club and the NEMGTR so that I can obtain the
priceless information in the publications. The dues for each club are about $40
per year. A minute amount when compared to what we spend to keep these wonderful
old car running.
Ken TC 4147
Murray Arundell wrote:
> Ken,
>
> It seems to me that NEMGT is a business, owned by Knudson. (Ive been told
> this but have no direct proof, perhaps you can tell me what the true case
> is). In any event it certainly seems to me to be a mercinary way of running
> a "club".
>
> We may have to agree to disagree, as I have always felt that a "club" is
> about sharing information freely. Mr Kudson's policy of never allowing
> articles to be printed (if this is in fact what he does) elsewhere is an
> extremely unhelpful attitude not in keeping with the MG marque.
>
> As I said in my earlier post Ken, I've heard a few stories from people who
> should know and while this should never be an excuse to to condem anyone
> outright, from my point of view the evidence is not good. Having said that
> let me say that my mind is not closed on the matter, far from it........
>
> Octagonally yours - Murray
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: KEN PORTER kporter@unix.asb.com>
> To: Murray Arundell arundell@ecn.net.au>
> Cc: Gates Family janus@iafrica.com>; C Sherriff
> 100070.740@compuserve.com>; tabc-list mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; Walter
> Prechsl privat walter@publi-consult.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2001 8:52 am
> Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] article on coil springs
>
> > Murray:
> > It is not a strange idea or poor attitude. The material is copywrited. If
> you
> > want the magazine with the info in it you pay the dues and become a member
> of
> > the NEMGT Register. The dues paying members support the organization and
> pay for
> > the publication of the magazine. If the information is not free to the
> members
> > why should it be free to non members. Back issues are available for a
> small fee.
> >
> > Ken TC 4147
> >
> > Murray Arundell wrote:
> >
> > > Im glad this thread came up as I was thinking of subscribing / joining
> the
> > > NE T Regster. If this is the attitude that prevails then count me out.
> > > Come to think of it a few things come back to me now that were told to
> me by
> > > the late Phil Richer in the UK....... Lets just say Dick has some
> strange
> > > ideas on how the MG world works, a very commercial view shall we
> say.......
> > >
> > > Murray Arundell
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: C Sherriff 100070.740@compuserve.com>
> > > To: Gates Family janus@iafrica.com>
> > > Cc: tabc-list mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; Walter Prechsl privat
> > > walter@publi-consult.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 7:07 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] article on coil springs
> > >
> > > > I've heard before that Knudson always refuses permission to reprint
> > > > no matter how trivial the work.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps not a REAL MG man who'd stop beside the road and lend a
> > > > hand !
> > > >
> > > > Clive
> > > >
> > > > ============================================
> > > >
> > > > >> dear friends,
> > > > >
> > > > > i tried to get the permission from r. knudson to publish the article
> > > > "coil
> > > > > return springs" by bob watts
> > > > > from TSO 2/97, but unfortunately he refused my request. today i got
> the
> > > > > answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > so anybody who like to get that knowledge has to look for a copy of
> TSO
> > > > or
> > > > > become a member of
> > > > > the north american MG club.
> > > > >
> > > > > best regards
> > > > > walter > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
Re: article on coil springs
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2001 5:49 am
by mrbadger
"G'day Joe!
One thing in favour of treading on thin ice...
You rarely get into hot water.
Jeff"
But you can sure freeze yer ball bearings off.
Badger