The Saga of the shock absorber bushings

[John Patterson]

Hi All- I just destroyed the remaining bushings trying to put a 1/2" post through a 3/16" hole. It is now obvious that I have the wrong bushings. Can anyone tell me what a bushings dimension is before insertion. The bushings I had shipped to me were # 282-710 in Moss catalog. The hole after the bushing is inserted in the eye I think should be about 3/8" in dia not 3/16". Help!

[DAI]

John, The part number is correct. Hopefully my other email of today should help. DAI --- John Patterson jwp-mgtc@aliens.com> wrote: > Hi All- I just destroyed the remaining bushings

> trying to put a 1/2" post > through a 3/16" hole. It is now obvious that I have > the wrong bushings. Can > anyone tell me what a bushings dimension is before > insertion. The bushings > I had shipped to me were # 282-710 in Moss catalog. > The hole after the > bushing is inserted in the eye I think should be > about 3/8" in dia not > 3/16". Help! > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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[John Patterson]

I know the part # is right but the bushings have to be wrong. The center hole is too small. The dia of the hole when inserted in the eye is only 3/16" in dia and there is no way I can press a 1/2" post thru this dia hole. I have destroyed 6 bushings in the attempt with a 12 ton press! Something is wrong and I think it is the bushings center hole. Thanks for all your help john Patterson TC 7025 -----Original Message----- From: DAI [mailto:dairwin_2000@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:18 PM To: John Patterson; T-ABCs List Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] The Saga of the shock absorber bushings John, The part number is correct. Hopefully my other email of today should help. DAI --- John Patterson jwp-mgtc@aliens.com> wrote: > Hi All- I just destroyed the remaining bushings

> trying to put a 1/2" post > through a 3/16" hole. It is now obvious that I have > the wrong bushings. Can > anyone tell me what a bushings dimension is before > insertion. The bushings > I had shipped to me were # 282-710 in Moss catalog. > The hole after the > bushing is inserted in the eye I think should be > about 3/8" in dia not > 3/16". Help! > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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[Gates Family]

Am not an expert but I had bushings manufacturered locally and had them pressed with a metal tube of appropriate dimensions into the centre hole. I was then able to press (via a vice and a smidgeon of Spanjaard grease as lubricant - Badger, I think KY Jelly is water based and will promote rust (and is it Y2K complaint?) - to facilitate ease of entry and adjustment. As the nun said to the archbishop........................ Joe Gates TC 8675

[Mark McCombs]

In the Motorcycle world in which I dwell when its not 1949 England, I typically use armor-all as a rubber lube. It certainly wont hurt the rubber. And I dont need to send the wife off to buy it to avoid embarrasment. Mark TC8126

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gates Family" janus@iafrica.com> To: "John Patterson" jwp-mgtc@aliens.com>; "T-ABCs List" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] The Saga of the shock absorber bushings > Am not an expert but I had bushings manufacturered locally and had them > pressed with a metal tube of appropriate dimensions into the centre hole. I > was then able to press (via a vice and a smidgeon of Spanjaard grease as > lubricant - Badger, I think KY Jelly is water based and will promote rust > (and is it Y2K complaint?) - to facilitate ease of entry and adjustment. As > the nun said to the archbishop........................ > > Joe Gates > TC 8675 > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[Robert Kampas]

John, I recently replaced all of these bushings. I ordered from Moss and after getting the parts concluded before installation that they were wrong. I then ordered from Abington spares and received the same exact bushing. I had a machinist press in a couple of these little beasts and he agreed that they did not look right. Nevertheless I have been assured by other TC'ers that the Moss part is the right one. Frustrating, and I still don't have the answer to this one! I ended up calling Apple Hydraulics to see if they sold these rubber bushes. The ones I received were different than Moss's (longer barrel). I used a good sized vise, small strips of wood as protection against marring by the jaws of the vise, an extra pair of hands, and several large sizes of sockets (to perform the same function as the Moss installation kit) and was able to push in one bushing. Took about an hour and slightly marred the rubber bush. After being assured by others that I now had the wrong bushing, I packed it up and took it to the machinist who by some magical process delivered the goods the very next day. However I was still left to install the now bushed shock links to both the shock itself and the mounting stud at the leaf spring. I used the extra pair of hands and the vise as described above to get the infernal things onto the shock. The stud was the easiest - all I needed was a good sized C-clamp compressing against the vertical edges of the leaf springs and the outer edge of the bushed end of the link. Thank God I won't have to do this again for a long time (hopefully)!!! However I would purchase the Moss installation tool if I ever do. Cheers, Bob K -----Original Message----- From: John Patterson [mailto:jwp-mgtc@aliens.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:44 AM To: T-ABCs List Subject: [mg-tabc] The Saga of the shock absorber bushings Hi All- I just destroyed the remaining bushings trying to put a 1/2" post through a 3/16" hole. It is now obvious that I have the wrong bushings. Can anyone tell me what a bushings dimension is before insertion. The bushings I had shipped to me were # 282-710 in Moss catalog. The hole after the bushing is inserted in the eye I think should be about 3/8" in dia not 3/16". Help! Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[DougPulver@aol.com]

John, Please don't feel like you are alone. I have been living vicariously through you while my shocks were being rebuilt at Apple. They returned to me on Saturday so hopefully my efforts will be easier thanks to all the advice you have received. Good luck. Doug TC 5850

[joecurto@aol.com]

Mark I actually got the KY Jelley suggestion from a motorcycle guy as a means of installing rubber hand grips as well as from the guys at Apple Hydraulics who install the bushings in question all the time. The reason not to use silicon, or armor all is that it stays slippery and possibly the pieces could slide off. Joe curto

[Mark Stolzenburg]

John, I had the same problem you are having. I had the Moss tools and the same rubber bushings. I just about ruined my drill press and the stuff is under such great pressure that if it got away from me I probably could have hurt myself. I sent my shoxs and links to Peter Caldwell at World Wide Auto Parts in Madison, WI. He charges $13.75 per bushing but it was well worth it. Peter tells me he ruins about 25% of the bushing that he puts in. His phone is 800-362-1025. E-mail is nosimport@mailbag.com. He is honest and a decent guy. Mark Stolzenburg

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Patterson" jwp-mgtc@aliens.com> To: "T-ABCs List" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "DAI" dairwin_2000@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:55 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] The Saga of the shock absorber bushings > I know the part # is right but the bushings have to be wrong. The center > hole is too small. The dia of the hole when inserted in the eye is only > 3/16" > in dia and there is no way I can press a 1/2" post thru this dia hole. I > have destroyed 6 bushings in the attempt with a 12 ton press! Something is > wrong and I think it is the bushings center hole. > Thanks for all your help > john Patterson TC 7025 > > -----Original Message----- > From: DAI [mailto:dairwin_2000@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:18 PM > To: John Patterson; T-ABCs List > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] The Saga of the shock absorber bushings > > > John, > > The part number is correct. Hopefully my other email > of today should help. > > DAI > > --- John Patterson jwp-mgtc@aliens.com> wrote: > Hi > All- I just destroyed the remaining bushings > > trying to put a 1/2" post > > through a 3/16" hole. It is now obvious that I have > > the wrong bushings. Can > > anyone tell me what a bushings dimension is before > > insertion. The bushings > > I had shipped to me were # 282-710 in Moss catalog. > > The hole after the > > bushing is inserted in the eye I think should be > > about 3/8" in dia not > > 3/16". Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[John Patterson]

Thank you one and all for your help in the saga of the shocks. Mark I called Peter Caldwell and his first reaction was uproarious laughter. He is a shock rebuilder and has replaced many TC bushings. He states he started using the Moss kit but found it inadequate and has developed his own set of jigs. He states, for all concerned, that he presses the posts and bushings all at the same time and has no problems. So I guess that the bushings are correct and it takes someone with more skills than I have. My shocks are on the way to Madison.Thanks Mark for his name and phone no. John Patterson TC 7025 -----Original Message----- From: Mark Stolzenburg [mailto:stolzy40@peoplepc.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 9:14 AM To: mg-tabc List Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] The Saga of the shock absorber bushings John, I had the same problem you are having. I had the Moss tools and the same rubber bushings. I just about ruined my drill press and the stuff is under such great pressure that if it got away from me I probably could have hurt myself. I sent my shoxs and links to Peter Caldwell at World Wide Auto Parts in Madison, WI. He charges $13.75 per bushing but it was well worth it. Peter tells me he ruins about 25% of the bushing that he puts in. His phone is 800-362-1025. E-mail is nosimport@mailbag.com. He is honest and a decent guy. Mark Stolzenburg

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Patterson" jwp-mgtc@aliens.com> To: "T-ABCs List" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "DAI" dairwin_2000@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:55 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] The Saga of the shock absorber bushings > I know the part # is right but the bushings have to be wrong. The center > hole is too small. The dia of the hole when inserted in the eye is only > 3/16" > in dia and there is no way I can press a 1/2" post thru this dia hole. I > have destroyed 6 bushings in the attempt with a 12 ton press! Something is > wrong and I think it is the bushings center hole. > Thanks for all your help > john Patterson TC 7025 > > -----Original Message----- > From: DAI [mailto:dairwin_2000@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:18 PM > To: John Patterson; T-ABCs List > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] The Saga of the shock absorber bushings > > > John, > > The part number is correct. Hopefully my other email > of today should help. > > DAI > > --- John Patterson jwp-mgtc@aliens.com> wrote: > Hi > All- I just destroyed the remaining bushings > > trying to put a 1/2" post > > through a 3/16" hole. It is now obvious that I have > > the wrong bushings. Can > > anyone tell me what a bushings dimension is before > > insertion. The bushings > > I had shipped to me were # 282-710 in Moss catalog. > > The hole after the > > bushing is inserted in the eye I think should be > > about 3/8" in dia not > > 3/16". Help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk > or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/