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Steering wheel bolts
Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 6:21 am
by Robert Kampas
Does anyone know of a source for the bolts used to hold an original
Brooklands steering wheel to its hub? There should be four hex head bolts -
I have only three. Short of having a new one made is there a supplier that
sells just the bolts?
By the way any clue as to what thread these might be? I'm fairly sure that
they are not the famous "French Algerian Mad English Ancient Metric"
mentioned recently by one of our members.
Cheers,
Bob Kampas
TC 2544
Re: Steering wheel bolts
Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 6:42 am
by Chip Old
On Tue, 29 May 2001, Robert Kampas wrote to
mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com:
> Does anyone know of a source for the bolts used to hold an original
> Brooklands steering wheel to its hub? There should be four hex head
> bolts - I have only three. Short of having a new one made is there a
> supplier that sells just the bolts?
>
> By the way any clue as to what thread these might be? I'm fairly sure
> that they are not the famous "French Algerian Mad English Ancient
> Metric" mentioned recently by one of our members.
The "Nuffield's Mad Metric" threads wrere used only in the engine and
gearbox. Throughout the rest of the car you'll find BSF (British Standard
Fine), BSW (British Standard Whitworth), BA (British Association), BSP
(British Standard Pipe), and BSPT (British Standard Pipe Tapered).
1/4 inch BSF comes to mind for the Brooklands hub, but I'm not sure. If
nobody answers earlier, I'll check the threads in my Brooklands wheel at
home this evening and write back.
--
Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271
Cub Hill, MD, USA 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E
fold@bcpl.net
Re: Steering wheel bolts
Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 6:52 am
by Dave Osborn
Robert;
Try Kimble Engineering in Dartmouth, They reproduce the steering wheels.
Unit 5 Old Mill Creek
Dartmouth, Devon
Eng. TQ6 0HN
Tel:01144180383 5757
Fax:01144180383 4567
Dave Osborn
TC 10217
TD 6551
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Kampas [mailto:
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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 9:21 AM
To:
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Subject: [mg-tabc] Steering wheel bolts
Does anyone know of a source for the bolts used to hold an original
Brooklands steering wheel to its hub? There should be four hex head bolts -
I have only three. Short of having a new one made is there a supplier that
sells just the bolts?
By the way any clue as to what thread these might be? I'm fairly sure that
they are not the famous "French Algerian Mad English Ancient Metric"
mentioned recently by one of our members.
Cheers,
Bob Kampas
TC 2544
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Re: Steering wheel bolts
Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 3:11 pm
by Robert Johnson
RK:
You indicate that you have 3 of 4 hex head bolts to hold the Brooklands
wheel to the hub. This puzzles me as my old Brooklands wheel doesn't use hex
head bolts.
Rather, the cover plate which clamps the steering wheel to the hub uses 4
machine screws (6 x 1.0, approx 1" long) with each going into a hex nut on
the back of the hub.
These machine screws have a single slot head which is tapered and fits into
the cover plate such that the top of the screw is flush with the cover plate
when fully tightened, ie: the cover plate holes are slightly beveled and
countersunk.
Are there 2 types (or more?) of "original" Brooklands configurations?
Bob Johnson
Crescent City, CA
'46 TC 1450
Re: Steering wheel bolts
Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 3:30 pm
by Skip Kelsey
Bob:
The current wheels from Kimble Engineering use four bolts. Approx. inch and
1/8 long.
Skip Kelsey.............
At 03:09 PM 5/30/01, Robert Johnson wrote:
>RK:
>
>You indicate that you have 3 of 4 hex head bolts to hold the Brooklands
>wheel to the hub. This puzzles me as my old Brooklands wheel doesn't use hex
>head bolts.
>
>Rather, the cover plate which clamps the steering wheel to the hub uses 4
>machine screws (6 x 1.0, approx 1" long) with each going into a hex nut on
>the back of the hub.
>
>These machine screws have a single slot head which is tapered and fits into
>the cover plate such that the top of the screw is flush with the cover plate
>when fully tightened, ie: the cover plate holes are slightly beveled and
>countersunk.
>
>Are there 2 types (or more?) of "original" Brooklands configurations?
>
>Bob Johnson
>Crescent City, CA
>'46 TC 1450
>
>
>
>
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Re: Steering wheel bolts
Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 5:12 pm
by Steve Rankin
I'm missing one of those screws. Anyone have a source or extra?
Steve Rankin
TC 6646
----- Original Message -----
From: "Skip Kelsey" kelsey@shadetreemotors.com>
To: "Robert Johnson" webmaster@consultantbob.com>;
mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Robert Kampas" kampas@seanet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Steering wheel bolts
> Bob:
>
> The current wheels from Kimble Engineering use four bolts. Approx. inch
and
> 1/8 long.
>
> Skip Kelsey.............
>
> At 03:09 PM 5/30/01, Robert Johnson wrote:
> >RK:
> >
> >You indicate that you have 3 of 4 hex head bolts to hold the Brooklands
> >wheel to the hub. This puzzles me as my old Brooklands wheel doesn't use
hex
> >head bolts.
> >
> >Rather, the cover plate which clamps the steering wheel to the hub uses 4
> >machine screws (6 x 1.0, approx 1" long) with each going into a hex nut
on
> >the back of the hub.
> >
> >These machine screws have a single slot head which is tapered and fits
into
> >the cover plate such that the top of the screw is flush with the cover
plate
> >when fully tightened, ie: the cover plate holes are slightly beveled and
> >countersunk.
> >
> >Are there 2 types (or more?) of "original" Brooklands configurations?
> >
> >Bob Johnson
> >Crescent City, CA
> >'46 TC 1450
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Steering wheel bolts
Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 7:24 pm
by Chip Old
There are three variations that I'm aware of. All have a two-piece hub
with the spring spokes clamped between the two halves and a cover plate
with the MG logo. The difference is in the details:
1) As Bob described (below) but the slotted countersunk bolts are 1/4 BSF,
not 6 X 1 MM. The cover plate is the full diameter of the hub, and is
held by the countersunk bolts.
2) Similar to #1, but with 1/4 BSF hex head bolts.
3) Similar to #1 with countersunk 1/4 BSF bolts, but the cover plate is
smaller in diameter than the aluminum hub, fits into a recess in the
hub, and is held on by three tiny machine screws (4 BA I think).
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Robert Johnson wrote:
> You indicate that you have 3 of 4 hex head bolts to hold the
> Brooklands wheel to the hub. This puzzles me as my old Brooklands
> wheel doesn't use hex head bolts.
>
> Rather, the cover plate which clamps the steering wheel to the hub
> uses 4 machine screws (6 x 1.0, approx 1" long) with each going into a
> hex nut on the back of the hub.
>
> These machine screws have a single slot head which is tapered and fits
> into the cover plate such that the top of the screw is flush with the
> cover plate when fully tightened, ie: the cover plate holes are
> slightly beveled and countersunk.
>
> Are there 2 types (or more?) of "original" Brooklands configurations?
--
Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271
Cub Hill, MD, USA 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E
fold@bcpl.net
Re: Steering wheel bolts
Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 8:23 pm
by Robert Kampas
To all who have replied,
The hex head bolts I have indeed seem to be 1/4 BSF x 1 1/8" long. The MG
cover plate is the full diameter of the hub but does not have any
countersinks for the bolts. The hub itself does not have any hex nut on the
back.
By the way of additional information the hub was coated with something that
looked like a black bakelite coating but I have now polished it as bare
aluminum coated with clear Polane. The rim is a multicolored green bakelite
and is now in great shape.
Thanks again to all,
Bob K
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From:
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fold@mail.bcpl.net]On Behalf Of Chip
Old
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 7:24 PM
To: MG-TABC
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Steering wheel bolts
There are three variations that I'm aware of. All have a two-piece hub
with the spring spokes clamped between the two halves and a cover plate
with the MG logo. The difference is in the details:
1) As Bob described (below) but the slotted countersunk bolts are 1/4 BSF,
not 6 X 1 MM. The cover plate is the full diameter of the hub, and is
held by the countersunk bolts.
2) Similar to #1, but with 1/4 BSF hex head bolts.
3) Similar to #1 with countersunk 1/4 BSF bolts, but the cover plate is
smaller in diameter than the aluminum hub, fits into a recess in the
hub, and is held on by three tiny machine screws (4 BA I think).
On Wed, 30 May 2001, Robert Johnson wrote:
> You indicate that you have 3 of 4 hex head bolts to hold the
> Brooklands wheel to the hub. This puzzles me as my old Brooklands
> wheel doesn't use hex head bolts.
>
> Rather, the cover plate which clamps the steering wheel to the hub
> uses 4 machine screws (6 x 1.0, approx 1" long) with each going into a
> hex nut on the back of the hub.
>
> These machine screws have a single slot head which is tapered and fits
> into the cover plate such that the top of the screw is flush with the
> cover plate when fully tightened, ie: the cover plate holes are
> slightly beveled and countersunk.
>
> Are there 2 types (or more?) of "original" Brooklands configurations?
--
Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271
Cub Hill, MD, USA 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E
fold@bcpl.net
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Re: Steering wheel bolts
Posted: Tue May 29, 2001 8:42 pm
by Frank O_ The Mountain
You guys might want to rethink the use of the original hex headed bolts. I
wore the imprint of those four bolts in my chest for about 8 months after the
TA T-boned a 4 door chevy.
We now return to our regularly scheduled thread on seat belts....
Terry
Re: Steering wheel bolts
Posted: Wed May 30, 2001 4:48 am
by joecurto@aol.com
Terry just think of how lucky you actually were. I always figured that I
would be impaled by the steering column in a crash like that.
Curto