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[Ray McCrary]

Hi Guys, Does anyone know where I can obtain a die (device to cut threads onto a rod) in order to clean up the right hand threads on a tie rod for my TB (same as TC)? I may have to make another tie rod, because the one on the car is slightly bent... There appears to be some confusion on the part of the suppliers that I have contacted so far. And for those of you who wrote with interest on the kit to install modern components into the Bishop box.....yep, this is part of the ongoing game! Best, Ray McCrary "Speed is Life; of course Luck and Altitude are helpful, too."

[Roger Furneaux]

Hello Ray - we have here in Devon, England a compnay which sells every conceivable tap & die at well below normal list prices. I always have the usual ones people need in stock (such as the 8 x 1.0mm for the XPAG) but can easily get any one other for you. Its dark (and wet!) out there now, but will measure up tomorrow. Whatever the size, it will only cost you $15 BTW these "rods" are actually tubes, with ali plugs to stop the grease from the ball joints filling them up. you might be able to straighten it by drilling these out and using a plumbers pipe-bending spring on the inside (stops it collapsing). or damp sand works as well. ocTagonally Roger

>Does anyone know where I can obtain a die (device to cut threads onto a rod) >in order to clean up the right hand threads on a tie rod for my TB (same as >TC)? I may have to make another tie rod, because the one on the car is >slightly bent... >There appears to be some confusion on the part of the suppliers that I have >contacted so far. >And for those of you who wrote with interest on the kit to install modern >components into the Bishop box.....yep, this is part of the ongoing game! >Best, >Ray McCrary >"Speed is Life; >of course Luck and Altitude >are helpful, too." > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Robert Grunau]

I have had a tie rod made by a local machine shop from solid bar, a bit expensive as it was made on a lathe. Seems to me the thread is 5/8"- 20 tpi?, left and right hand. Are these die nuts available in right and left hand thread? If so, at what approximate price? It would be no big job to make tie rods if we had the two die nuts. On my race TC I am using "modern" tie rod ends on the tie rod between the wheels and original type tie rod ends on the drag link from the stering box to the left wheel. Thinking being that the spring action in the original ends may be beneficial in taking out some of the road wheel shock to the steering box. Anybody know what vehicle/part number for the "modern" tie rod ends so I can buy replacements? The ones I used were in my spare stock junk and I have no idea where the came from. I would certainly be interested in any information on installing modern components in the Bishop Cam steering box. Thanks, Bob . Hello Ray - we have here in Devon, England a compnay which sells every conceivable tap & die at well below normal list prices. I always have the usual ones people need in stock (such as the 8 x 1.0mm for the XPAG) but can easily get any one other for you. Its dark (and wet!) out there now, but will measure up tomorrow. Whatever the size, it will only cost you $15 BTW these "rods" are actually tubes, with ali plugs to stop the grease from the ball joints filling them up. you might be able to straighten it by drilling these out and using a plumbers pipe-bending spring on the inside (stops it collapsing). or damp sand works as well. ocTagonally Roger

>Does anyone know where I can obtain a die (device to cut threads onto a

rod)

>in order to clean up the right hand threads on a tie rod for my TB (same as >TC)? I may have to make another tie rod, because the one on the car is >slightly bent... >There appears to be some confusion on the part of the suppliers that I have >contacted so far. >And for those of you who wrote with interest on the kit to install modern >components into the Bishop box.....yep, this is part of the ongoing game! >Best, >Ray McCrary

[brian bax]

Hello Bob,I'm also using "modern"track rod ends.They are Quinton Hazell part no.98 labelled suitable for 32 to 49 Midget only.Unfortunately the style of packaging indicates manufacture many years ago.Does anyone on the list know more? At the drop arm I'm using a "modern" Morris 10 end QH No.QR86.Brian Bax TC3550

> From: cgrunau@pathcom.com (Robert Grunau) > Sent: Fri May 18 13:25:50 BST 2001 > To: roger.46tc@virgin.net (Roger Furneaux); spook01@home.com (Ray McCrary) > Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com (.T-ABCs) > Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Threads! > > I have had a tie rod made by a local machine shop from solid bar, a bit > expensive as it was made on a lathe. Seems to me the thread is 5/8"- 20 > tpi?, left and right hand. Are these die nuts available in right and left > hand thread? If so, at what approximate price? It would be no big job to > make tie rods if we had the two die nuts. > On my race TC I am using "modern" tie rod ends on the tie rod between the > wheels and original type tie rod ends on the drag link from the stering box > to the left wheel. Thinking being that the spring action in the original > ends may be beneficial in taking out some of the road wheel shock to the > steering box. > Anybody know what vehicle/part number for the "modern" tie rod ends so I > can buy replacements? The ones I used were in my spare stock junk and I have > no idea where the came from. > I would certainly be interested in any information on installing modern > components in the Bishop Cam steering box. > Thanks, Bob . > > Hello Ray - we have here in Devon, England a compnay which sells every > conceivable tap & die at well below normal list prices. I always have the > usual ones people need in stock (such as the 8 x 1.0mm for the XPAG) but can > easily get any one other for you. Its dark (and wet!) out there now, but > will measure up tomorrow. Whatever the size, it will only cost you $15 > > BTW these "rods" are actually tubes, with ali plugs to stop the grease from > the ball joints filling them up. you might be able to straighten it by > drilling these out and using a plumbers pipe-bending spring on the inside > (stops it collapsing). or damp sand works as well. > > ocTagonally > > Roger > > >Does anyone know where I can obtain a die (device to cut threads onto a > rod) > >in order to clean up the right hand threads on a tie rod for my TB (same as > >TC)? I may have to make another tie rod, because the one on the car is > >slightly bent... > >There appears to be some confusion on the part of the suppliers that I have > >contacted so far. > >And for those of you who wrote with interest on the kit to install modern > >components into the Bishop box.....yep, this is part of the ongoing game! > >Best, > >Ray McCrary > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[Roger Furneaux]

Re: [mg-tabc] Threads! Hi Larry - the firm in question are called Tracy Tools (named after their daughter, who has gone from being a little girl to...well, I leave the rest to your imagination, and you would not be disappointed )) They are in the historic South Devon town of Dartmouth, and until about a week ago never touched credit cards, but now they do and also have email (TracyTools@aol.com>) so you can buy direct. A 5/8" x 20tpi split die in carbon steel is 9 (or only $13 with the present poor exchange rate). a left handed version of anything is [b]3 [/b]times the price, as is High Speed steel, so a LH HSS tap or die would be expensive, but if you are not in production then the carbon steel is fine. they stock much more than taps & dies however! oc[b]T[/b]agonally TCRoger

[quote] we have here in Devon, England a compnay which sells every conceivable tap & die at well below normal list prices

Roger--what company is that, and what is the address, etc.? Thanks--Larry Long [/quote]

[Ray McCrary]

The QH guys around here don't carry that number......... Best, Ray McCrary "Speed is Life; of course Luck and Altitude are helpful, too."

----- Original Message ----- From: "brian bax" bax@bushinternet.com> To: cgrunau@pathcom.com> Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:41 PM Subject: Re: RE: [mg-tabc] Threads! > Hello Bob,I'm also using "modern"track rod ends.They are Quinton Hazell part no.98 labelled suitable for 32 to 49 Midget only.Unfortunately the style of packaging indicates manufacture many years ago.Does anyone on the list know more? At the drop arm I'm using a "modern" Morris 10 end QH No.QR86.Brian Bax TC3550 > > From: cgrunau@pathcom.com (Robert Grunau) > > Sent: Fri May 18 13:25:50 BST 2001 > > To: roger.46tc@virgin.net (Roger Furneaux); spook01@home.com (Ray McCrary) > > Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com (.T-ABCs) > > Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Threads! > > > > I have had a tie rod made by a local machine shop from solid bar, a bit > > expensive as it was made on a lathe. Seems to me the thread is 5/8"- 20 > > tpi?, left and right hand. Are these die nuts available in right and left > > hand thread? If so, at what approximate price? It would be no big job to > > make tie rods if we had the two die nuts. > > On my race TC I am using "modern" tie rod ends on the tie rod between the > > wheels and original type tie rod ends on the drag link from the stering box > > to the left wheel. Thinking being that the spring action in the original > > ends may be beneficial in taking out some of the road wheel shock to the > > steering box. > > Anybody know what vehicle/part number for the "modern" tie rod ends so I > > can buy replacements? The ones I used were in my spare stock junk and I have > > no idea where the came from.

[Ray McCrary]

Re: [mg-tabc] Threads! The TracyTool folks are nice and prompt. They ship to the US, too! Best, Ray McCrary "Speed is Life; of course Luck and Altitude are helpful, too."

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] roger.46tc@virgin.net [b]To:[/b] Emgeeguy@aol.com [b]Cc:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Saturday, May 19, 2001 7:54 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] Threads! Hi Larry - the firm in question are called Tracy Tools (named after their daughter, who has gone from being a little girl to...well, I leave the rest to your imagination, and you would not be disappointed )) They are in the historic South Devon town of Dartmouth, and until about a week ago never touched credit cards, but now they do and also have email (TracyTools@aol.com>) so you can buy direct. A 5/8" x 20tpi split die in carbon steel is 9 (or only $13 with the present poor exchange rate). a left handed version of anything is [b]3 [/b]times the price, as is High Speed steel, so a LH HSS tap or die would be expensive, but if you are not in production then the carbon steel is fine. they stock much more than taps & dies however! oc[b]T[/b]agonally TCRoger [quote] we have here in Devon, England a compnay which sells every conceivable tap & die at well below normal list prices

Roger--what company is that, and what is the address, etc.? Thanks--Larry Long [/quote] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

[Ray McCrary]

Hi Guys, The TracyTool folks are nice and prompt with the dies. The tie rod is a tube with plugs in the end. I used chromoly for mine, but the originals are just steel tubing. I just JB Welded in a couple of small freeze plugs in the end....done! One thing though: Where can you get these "modern type" tie rod ends here in the US?? Anyone know?? Best, Ray McCrary "Speed is Life; of course Luck and Altitude are helpful, too."

----- Original Message ----- From: "brian bax" bax@bushinternet.com> To: cgrunau@pathcom.com> Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 2:41 PM Subject: Re: RE: [mg-tabc] Threads! > Hello Bob,I'm also using "modern"track rod ends.They are Quinton Hazell part no.98 labelled suitable for 32 to 49 Midget only.Unfortunately the style of packaging indicates manufacture many years ago.Does anyone on the list know more? At the drop arm I'm using a "modern" Morris 10 end QH No.QR86.Brian Bax TC3550 > > From: cgrunau@pathcom.com (Robert Grunau) > > Sent: Fri May 18 13:25:50 BST 2001 > > To: roger.46tc@virgin.net (Roger Furneaux); spook01@home.com (Ray McCrary) > > Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com (.T-ABCs) > > Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Threads! > > > > I have had a tie rod made by a local machine shop from solid bar, a bit > > expensive as it was made on a lathe. Seems to me the thread is 5/8"- 20 > > tpi?, left and right hand. Are these die nuts available in right and left > > hand thread? If so, at what approximate price? It would be no big job to > > make tie rods if we had the two die nuts. > > On my race TC I am using "modern" tie rod ends on the tie rod between the > > wheels and original type tie rod ends on the drag link from the stering box > > to the left wheel. Thinking being that the spring action in the original > > ends may be beneficial in taking out some of the road wheel shock to the > > steering box. > > Anybody know what vehicle/part number for the "modern" tie rod ends so I > > can buy replacements? The ones I used were in my spare stock junk and I have > > no idea where the came from. > > I would certainly be interested in any information on installing modern > > components in the Bishop Cam steering box. > > Thanks, Bob . > > > > Hello Ray - we have here in Devon, England a compnay which sells every > > conceivable tap & die at well below normal list prices. I always have the > > usual ones people need in stock (such as the 8 x 1.0mm for the XPAG) but can > > easily get any one other for you. Its dark (and wet!) out there now, but > > will measure up tomorrow. Whatever the size, it will only cost you $15 > > > > BTW these "rods" are actually tubes, with ali plugs to stop the grease from > > the ball joints filling them up. you might be able to straighten it by > > drilling these out and using a plumbers pipe-bending spring on the inside > > (stops it collapsing). or damp sand works as well. > > > > ocTagonally > > > > Roger > > > > >Does anyone know where I can obtain a die (device to cut threads onto a > > rod) > > >in order to clean up the right hand threads on a tie rod for my TB (same as > > >TC)? I may have to make another tie rod, because the one on the car is > > >slightly bent... > > >There appears to be some confusion on the part of the suppliers that I have > > >contacted so far. > > >And for those of you who wrote with interest on the kit to install modern > > >components into the Bishop box.....yep, this is part of the ongoing game! > > >Best, > > >Ray McCrary > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >