Wilsons Sandbox

>Just out of curiosity, where are the Moss tanks made? >Ray McCrary >"Speed is Life; >of course Luck and Altitude >are helpful, too." >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David and Joyce Edgar" djedgar@pacbell.net> >To: "T-ABC list" mg-tabc@egroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 11:19 AM >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] UK painters > > > > With an appology to DAI, I am now posting this message to the group. > > I in error only replied to him and now he will get it twice. > > > > DAI, > > > > You didn't mention you had a new Moss tank in your first message. > > When I was rear ended in October of 1999 I was fitted with a new Moss > > tank. The first tank leaked (actually a very, very slow ooze) at > > most the weld joints. A replacement from Moss also leaked when > > pressure tested and was repaired at a radiator shop and then double > > slosh coated inside just to make sure it didn't leak. The > > craftsmanship was terrible and took quite a bit of bondo to hide all > > the metal warpage. Mike Goodman did all the work and after > > complaining to Moss with great vigor received the second tank free. > > They admitted they had many complaints from customers. Before > > spending money to paint, test for leaks or the paint will blister off > > after a few months. I would slosh the tank also. > > > > The mounting brackets on the new tank that the end plates screw onto > > need to be checked also. They were a little off and slightly short > > of accepting the end plate bolts. Mike welded nuts into posititon to > > solve this if I remember correctly. I would assemble it all on the > > car before you take to the painters to see if it all lines up. The > > new end caps I got were on the tight side but worked. > > > > Good luck with a possible Pandoras Box (Tank) > > > > David Edgar, TC 5108 > > La Mesa, California > > > > > > >Dear all, > > > > > >Before the discussion drifts too much, my original > > >question related to my surprise at a quote for 220 > > >pounds to spray a tank. The chap I showed the tank > > >to, could see something I hadn't mentioned - the tank > > >is new from MOSS, and the end plates are also new and > > >in chrome finish. The spare tyre mount is still > > >painted, but the quote assumed I would get that > > >blasted first. > > > > > >Anyway, I appreciate the inputs. I wish to have the > > >tank (the only new part that needs spraying) to match > > >the existing car. In the future (after I get some > > >enjoyment of driving it at last) I will consider a > > >full restoration, but for now I am working to get it > > >up to MOT standard for the government test, and not a > > >full restoration. > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >DAI > > > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Crystal Brenner" cbrenner01@snet.net> To: "David and Joyce Edgar" djedgar@pacbell.net> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Moss petrol tank > To all with tank troubles, > Fred Kuntz of the Whitworth Shop restored my TB tank some time ago. I > don't know if he will do another ...It would be worth a try. I had seen and > heard about the poor quality and fit problems with the repros. I also used > original (steel) end panels. Sometimes if you can salvage an original > ...this includes wings etc. you actually save compared to fitting problems > with the new parts. A good sheet metal person can usually restore these > parts. It is obviously important to remove all traces of petrol from a tank > first....or else. > Cheers, John and Crystal TB#0398 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David and Joyce Edgar" djedgar@pacbell.net> > To: "T-ABC list" mg-tabc@egroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 3:38 PM > Subject: [mg-tabc] Moss petrol tank > > > > Ray, > > > > I am not aware as to where the Moss petrol tanks were made, but there > > was speculation that they came from England. I have nothing to base > > that on however. The second tank Mike got for me was their last. > > From what I gather they will not buy tanks from the same source again > > due to the poor quality. But then again if the supplier is the only > > game in town, maybe they will and hopefully improve quality. > > > > David Edgar, TC 5108 > > La Mesa, California > > > > > > > > >Just out of curiosity, where are the Moss tanks made? > > >Ray McCrary > > >"Speed is Life; > > >of course Luck and Altitude > > >are helpful, too." > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "David and Joyce Edgar" djedgar@pacbell.net> > > >To: "T-ABC list" mg-tabc@egroups.com> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 11:19 AM > > >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] UK painters > > > > > > > > > > With an appology to DAI, I am now posting this message to the group. > > > > I in error only replied to him and now he will get it twice. > > > > > > > > DAI, > > > > > > > > You didn't mention you had a new Moss tank in your first message. > > > > When I was rear ended in October of 1999 I was fitted with a new Moss > > > > tank. The first tank leaked (actually a very, very slow ooze) at > > > > most the weld joints. A replacement from Moss also leaked when > > > > pressure tested and was repaired at a radiator shop and then double > > > > slosh coated inside just to make sure it didn't leak. The > > > > craftsmanship was terrible and took quite a bit of bondo to hide all > > > > the metal warpage. Mike Goodman did all the work and after > > > > complaining to Moss with great vigor received the second tank free. > > > > They admitted they had many complaints from customers. Before > > > > spending money to paint, test for leaks or the paint will blister off > > > > after a few months. I would slosh the tank also. > > > > > > > > The mounting brackets on the new tank that the end plates screw onto > > > > need to be checked also. They were a little off and slightly short > > > > of accepting the end plate bolts. Mike welded nuts into posititon to > > > > solve this if I remember correctly. I would assemble it all on the > > > > car before you take to the painters to see if it all lines up. The > > > > new end caps I got were on the tight side but worked. > > > > > > > > Good luck with a possible Pandoras Box (Tank) > > > > > > > > David Edgar, TC 5108 > > > > La Mesa, California > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear all, > > > > > > > > > >Before the discussion drifts too much, my original > > > > >question related to my surprise at a quote for 220 > > > > >pounds to spray a tank. The chap I showed the tank > > > > >to, could see something I hadn't mentioned - the tank > > > > >is new from MOSS, and the end plates are also new and > > > > >in chrome finish. The spare tyre mount is still > > > > >painted, but the quote assumed I would get that > > > > >blasted first. > > > > > > > > > >Anyway, I appreciate the inputs. I wish to have the > > > > >tank (the only new part that needs spraying) to match > > > > >the existing car. In the future (after I get some > > > > >enjoyment of driving it at last) I will consider a > > > > >full restoration, but for now I am working to get it > > > > >up to MOT standard for the government test, and not a > > > > >full restoration. > > > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > > > > >DAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >