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Donald Wilkinson
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Post by Donald Wilkinson » Tue Sep 24, 2002 9:03 am

Let digitaldon be the first (if he is). He wonders how a screwed joint could
"flex", without it loosening, and thus destroy it's integrity, making the
whole structure like a marionette. Has anyone tried screwed and glued
joints, and if so, what was his experience?

Don
TC 7993

>From: i.thomson@talk21.com
>To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [mg-tabc] (No Subject)
>Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:23:01 GMT+01:00
>
>
>Stand by for a protracted debate about whether to glue or not. Who will be
>the first to claim that screwed joints flex better than glued ones?
>
>Ian Thomson
>
>
>----------
>
> > Speaking of adhesives, I was astounded on dismantling my - admittedly
> >frightfully ramshackle - body (the TC, that is!) over the summer, that it
> >appears to be screwed together only! Not a drop of glue anywhere as far
>as I
> >could see. Now I know it was designed to flex and all the rest of it, but
>is
> >this a purely MG thing? Anyone know about the old coach-built Rollers and
> >stuff?
> >
> >Regards to all, David Lodge
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Sam Suklis
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Post by Sam Suklis » Tue Sep 24, 2002 9:45 am

I've been building EVERYTHING with glued and screwed joints for twenty
years...be it furniture, cabinetry, automotive wood components, or even boat
components...Type of glue and type of screws vary a lot according to the
kind of wood being used, and conditions in which it will be used...for
anything exposed to the elements, it's hard to beat the really good marine
products, but you have to be careful as to which varieties of woods you
combine them with...You need different products sometimes for teaks, as, say
opposed to oak, or walnut, or hickory, or ash....each kind of wood has
different expansion/contraction characteristics, and in some applications,
attention needs to be paid to these factors.

With screws, you can always used matched-wood plugs if having them show is a
factor, so you still have a nice, clean surface with no fasteners visible.

Bottom line: Glue AND screws are the best insurance out there against joints
coming loose.

Sam
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From: "Donald Wilkinson"
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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] (No Subject)


> Let digitaldon be the first (if he is). He wonders how a screwed joint
could
> "flex", without it loosening, and thus destroy it's integrity, making the
> whole structure like a marionette. Has anyone tried screwed and glued
> joints, and if so, what was his experience?
>
> Don
> TC 7993
>
>
> >From: i.thomson@talk21.com
> >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [mg-tabc] (No Subject)
> >Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:23:01 GMT+01:00
> >
> >
> >Stand by for a protracted debate about whether to glue or not. Who will
be
> >the first to claim that screwed joints flex better than glued ones?
> >
> >Ian Thomson
> >
> >
> >----------
> >
> > > Speaking of adhesives, I was astounded on dismantling my - admittedly
> > >frightfully ramshackle - body (the TC, that is!) over the summer, that
it
> > >appears to be screwed together only! Not a drop of glue anywhere as far
> >as I
> > >could see. Now I know it was designed to flex and all the rest of it,
but
> >is
> > >this a purely MG thing? Anyone know about the old coach-built Rollers
and
> > >stuff?
> > >
> > >Regards to all, David Lodge
> >
> >
> >
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David Lodge
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Post by David Lodge » Tue Sep 24, 2002 10:39 pm

But Ian,

what exactly IS the colour inside your D-lamp? ;-)

Regards, David Lodge
>
> Stand by for a protracted debate about whether to glue or not. Who will be
> the first to claim that screwed joints flex better than glued ones?
>
> Ian Thomson
>
>
> ----------
>
>> Speaking of adhesives, I was astounded on dismantling my - admittedly
>> frightfully ramshackle - body (the TC, that is!) over the summer, that it
>> appears to be screwed together only! Not a drop of glue anywhere as far as I
>> could see. Now I know it was designed to flex and all the rest of it, but is
>> this a purely MG thing? Anyone know about the old coach-built Rollers and
>> stuff?
>>
>> Regards to all, David Lodge
>
>
>
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Sam Suklis
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Post by Sam Suklis » Wed Sep 25, 2002 8:52 am

> Ian wrote:
> >
> > Stand by for a protracted debate about whether to glue or not. Who will
be
> > the first to claim that screwed joints flex better than glued ones?
Sam sez:

Why the screwed joints will always be the first to complain. that they were
screwed. > >
> >
David Lodge wrote"> >
> >> Speaking of adhesives, I was astounded on dismantling my - admittedly
> >> frightfully ramshackle - body (the TC, that is!) over the summer, that
it
> >> appears to be screwed together only! Not a drop of glue anywhere as far
as I
> >> could see.
lSam replies:

I seriously doubt anyone used glued or even screwed joints in that era,
though I have
seen some lovely corner-jointery work, and nails in some early cars.

Ray
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Post by Ray » Wed Sep 25, 2002 10:10 am

I vote for sub-molecular attraction via the neutrons of the various
componentry. Or, we could go on to questions about engines, and ways to
make them more reliable and powerful without turning them into hand
grenades.
Best,
Ray


age -----
From: "Sam Suklis"
To: ; ; "David Lodge"

Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] (No Subject)

>
>
> > Ian wrote:
> > >
> > > Stand by for a protracted debate about whether to glue or not. Who
will
> be
> > > the first to claim that screwed joints flex better than glued ones?
>
> Sam sez:
>
> Why the screwed joints will always be the first to complain. that they
were
> screwed. > >
> > >
> David Lodge wrote"> >
> > >> Speaking of adhesives, I was astounded on dismantling my - admittedly
> > >> frightfully ramshackle - body (the TC, that is!) over the summer,
that
> it
> > >> appears to be screwed together only! Not a drop of glue anywhere as
far
> as I
> > >> could see.
>
> lSam replies:
>
> I seriously doubt anyone used glued or even screwed joints in that era,
> though I have
> seen some lovely corner-jointery work, and nails in some early cars.
>
>
>
>
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Sam Suklis
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Post by Sam Suklis » Wed Sep 25, 2002 11:37 am

...SPLENDID idea! But it will lead to endless discussions about proton
accellerators, you understand.
Sam



From: "Ray"
To: "Sam Suklis" ; ;
; "David Lodge"
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] (No Subject)

> I vote for sub-molecular attraction via the neutrons of the various
> componentry. Or, we could go on to questions about engines, and ways to
> make them more reliable and powerful without turning them into hand
> grenades.
> Best,
> Ray
>
>
> age -----
> From: "Sam Suklis"
> To: ; ; "David Lodge"
>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] (No Subject)
>
>
> >
> >
> > > Ian wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Stand by for a protracted debate about whether to glue or not. Who
> will
> > be
> > > > the first to claim that screwed joints flex better than glued ones?
> >
> > Sam sez:
> >
> > Why the screwed joints will always be the first to complain. that they
> were
> > screwed. > >
> > > >
> > David Lodge wrote"> >
> > > >> Speaking of adhesives, I was astounded on dismantling my -
admittedly
> > > >> frightfully ramshackle - body (the TC, that is!) over the summer,
> that
> > it
> > > >> appears to be screwed together only! Not a drop of glue anywhere as
> far
> > as I
> > > >> could see.
> >
> > lSam replies:
> >
> > I seriously doubt anyone used glued or even screwed joints in that era,
> > though I have
> > seen some lovely corner-jointery work, and nails in some early cars.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>

p.cole@ntlworld.com
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Post by p.cole@ntlworld.com » Fri Oct 04, 2002 2:17 pm

I've started looking at the brakes on TC 3040, and am using a new cast bronze master cylinder that I bought from Brown & Gammons here in the UK, although all the major suppliers offer a similar part. I guess they all buy them from the same source.

I find that the mounting thread doesn't fit into the slot in the chassis. The slot in the chassis is a little over 19mm, but the mounting thread is 20mm x 2.5mm pitch.

I'm left with the choice of fettling the chassis or milling flats on the thread until it fits. I would bet that the original master cylinder had a 3/4BSF mounting. Can anyone confirm this?

Why do suppliers go to all the trouble of making a part and then screwing up over something so simple?

Malcolm Taylor
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Post by Malcolm Taylor » Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:12 am

Don,From: "Malcolm Taylor"
To: "Donald Wilkinson"
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] ELECTROLYTIC DERUSTING
Date: 22 October 2002 08:55

Don,

Sorry your memory, or your school chemistry is wrong.
Washing soda is crystalline hydrated sodium carbonate (Na2CO3. 10H20).
Baking soda is sodium hydrogen carbonate (or sodium bicarbonate in the UK)
(NaHCO3).
Caustic Soda is sodium hydroxide (NaOH) (known as 'lye' in N.America?) and
IS caustic so handle with care - its solutions feel 'soapy' to the touch.

If you only need an electrolyte you could (!!) use common salt - sodium
chloride (NaCl), it's much cheaper in the UK.

(Sorry I have been unable to use sub-scripts for numerals in formulae)

Malcolm Taylor TA1250




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Don Phillips
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Post by Don Phillips » Sun Nov 10, 2002 12:56 pm

I wish to fit the slow-running control from the dash to the carbs of my 1948
MG TC. Can anyone help me in words or with pictures as to how to attatch the
cable to the carbs?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Don Phillips
Taree, Australia




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Martin & Jan Finning
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Post by Martin & Jan Finning » Thu Nov 21, 2002 8:03 pm

G'Day Jim
I don't know where you are located but you should contact the following guy in Perth & discuss your TF wiring harness:
Vic Longden
12 Lambertia St.
Greenwood
W. Australia 6024.
Phone: (08) or from outside Oz (618) 9448 4466
Fax: 9448 4777
No email.
He has customers worldwide for his looms.
Martin


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