Re: Badges
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Badges
I am fed up with this badge question.
Someone ordered badges from a supplier in Hong Kong presumably because he was cheaper and probably better having seen the MG badges made for Moss in the USA.
But it was Hong Kong and not in some good old USA town so you cannot just post them for next day delivery.
No one had a sample examined before complete production or if they did and the lugs on the back had been already done before that sample was seen then that is the suppliers fault.
The lugs as I have said are better than nuts and is now standard sign fitting if they do not work then all of you would be walking down the High Street in hard hats.
This list is not the place for this constant bickering. I joined a while ago now and quite frankly was appalled by some of the comments I had when I started and could have left because of it.
I have had some real good information and have made some good long distance friends.
This is a classic example of what I speak about.
I think that whoever ordered the badges did not do their homework and assumed a lot and then treated the supplier very badly ( the supplier is not fault free as well)
I spent a long time in positions where I was ordering various items and one of those was what I call image items. These were never ordered without an exact sample in my hand with an assurance that production would be exactly the same ( I still made mistakes)
I have had enough ladies and gentlemen no more name calling sort this out off list and then tell us what is happening with what has been resolved and how you have treated Ron Hazlehurst and the other party's.
I might add that I do not buy badges and the only badge I have on my cars is a small MG Car Club badge (the oldest MG Car Club in the world ) on the front of my ZR so that I can tell it from the rest of the similar ZR,s on the road.
And another gripe while I am here how about members saying where they are in the world there is a huge world outside the USA.
David Darrell
TA 0455
Wales UK
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Someone ordered badges from a supplier in Hong Kong presumably because he was cheaper and probably better having seen the MG badges made for Moss in the USA.
But it was Hong Kong and not in some good old USA town so you cannot just post them for next day delivery.
No one had a sample examined before complete production or if they did and the lugs on the back had been already done before that sample was seen then that is the suppliers fault.
The lugs as I have said are better than nuts and is now standard sign fitting if they do not work then all of you would be walking down the High Street in hard hats.
This list is not the place for this constant bickering. I joined a while ago now and quite frankly was appalled by some of the comments I had when I started and could have left because of it.
I have had some real good information and have made some good long distance friends.
This is a classic example of what I speak about.
I think that whoever ordered the badges did not do their homework and assumed a lot and then treated the supplier very badly ( the supplier is not fault free as well)
I spent a long time in positions where I was ordering various items and one of those was what I call image items. These were never ordered without an exact sample in my hand with an assurance that production would be exactly the same ( I still made mistakes)
I have had enough ladies and gentlemen no more name calling sort this out off list and then tell us what is happening with what has been resolved and how you have treated Ron Hazlehurst and the other party's.
I might add that I do not buy badges and the only badge I have on my cars is a small MG Car Club badge (the oldest MG Car Club in the world ) on the front of my ZR so that I can tell it from the rest of the similar ZR,s on the road.
And another gripe while I am here how about members saying where they are in the world there is a huge world outside the USA.
David Darrell
TA 0455
Wales UK
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Re: Badges
*I agree with David, we should all sign our name with our name, car number
(if we have one) and our location in the world. This makes the list more
interesting and useful.
Arnold, TC0580, Victoria, BC, Canada.....and proud of it!
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(if we have one) and our location in the world. This makes the list more
interesting and useful.
Arnold, TC0580, Victoria, BC, Canada.....and proud of it!
*
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:11 AM, David Darrell wrote:
>
>
> I am fed up with this badge question.
>
> Someone ordered badges from a supplier in Hong Kong presumably because he
> was cheaper and probably better having seen the MG badges made for Moss in
> the USA.
> But it was Hong Kong and not in some good old USA town so you cannot just
> post them for next day delivery.
>
> No one had a sample examined before complete production or if they did and
> the lugs on the back had been already done before that sample was seen then
> that is the suppliers fault.
> The lugs as I have said are better than nuts and is now standard sign
> fitting if they do not work then all of you would be walking down the High
> Street in hard hats.
>
> This list is not the place for this constant bickering. I joined a while
> ago now and quite frankly was appalled by some of the comments I had when I
> started and could have left because of it.
> I have had some real good information and have made some good long distance
> friends.
> This is a classic example of what I speak about.
>
> I think that whoever ordered the badges did not do their homework and
> assumed a lot and then treated the supplier very badly ( the supplier is not
> fault free as well)
> I spent a long time in positions where I was ordering various items and one
> of those was what I call image items. These were never ordered without an
> exact sample in my hand with an assurance that production would be exactly
> the same ( I still made mistakes)
>
> I have had enough ladies and gentlemen no more name calling sort this out
> off list and then tell us what is happening with what has been resolved and
> how you have treated Ron Hazlehurst and the other party's.
>
> I might add that I do not buy badges and the only badge I have on my cars
> is a small MG Car Club badge (the oldest MG Car Club in the world ) on the
> front of my ZR so that I can tell it from the rest of the similar ZR,s on
> the road.
>
> And another gripe while I am here how about members saying where they are
> in the world there is a huge world outside the USA.
>
> David Darrell
> TA 0455
> Wales UK
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Badges
David,
I'm really confused by this issue. I have badges at the bottom of the field at the back of my house. I checked the other day and their nuts seemed OK although some didn't appear to have any at all. Incidentally I saw in the press that they have TB and are a danger to cows.
I've owned my TB for 38 years and have never hit a cow!
Sorry to be flippant but I thought it was time to lighten up this issue.
Incidentally for those around the world who may not know a badger is a medium sized black & white mammal fairly common in the UK. They carry TB which can infect cattle - allegedly. This is a far more contentious item than the badge problem.
It is amazing what comes up on this site.
Regards,
Jeff Townsend Cambridgeshire UK TA1957 TB0489 TD2 ZTT & Series 2A Landrover - get one if you can - it's as much fun as a T
To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
From: merlingarages@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:11:17 +0000
Subject: [mg-tabc] Badges
I am fed up with this badge question.
Someone ordered badges from a supplier in Hong Kong presumably because he was cheaper and probably better having seen the MG badges made for Moss in the USA.
But it was Hong Kong and not in some good old USA town so you cannot just post them for next day delivery.
No one had a sample examined before complete production or if they did and the lugs on the back had been already done before that sample was seen then that is the suppliers fault.
The lugs as I have said are better than nuts and is now standard sign fitting if they do not work then all of you would be walking down the High Street in hard hats.
This list is not the place for this constant bickering. I joined a while ago now and quite frankly was appalled by some of the comments I had when I started and could have left because of it.
I have had some real good information and have made some good long distance friends.
This is a classic example of what I speak about.
I think that whoever ordered the badges did not do their homework and assumed a lot and then treated the supplier very badly ( the supplier is not fault free as well)
I spent a long time in positions where I was ordering various items and one of those was what I call image items. These were never ordered without an exact sample in my hand with an assurance that production would be exactly the same ( I still made mistakes)
I have had enough ladies and gentlemen no more name calling sort this out off list and then tell us what is happening with what has been resolved and how you have treated Ron Hazlehurst and the other party's.
I might add that I do not buy badges and the only badge I have on my cars is a small MG Car Club badge (the oldest MG Car Club in the world ) on the front of my ZR so that I can tell it from the rest of the similar ZR,s on the road.
And another gripe while I am here how about members saying where they are in the world there is a huge world outside the USA.
David Darrell
TA 0455
Wales UK
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
I'm really confused by this issue. I have badges at the bottom of the field at the back of my house. I checked the other day and their nuts seemed OK although some didn't appear to have any at all. Incidentally I saw in the press that they have TB and are a danger to cows.
I've owned my TB for 38 years and have never hit a cow!
Sorry to be flippant but I thought it was time to lighten up this issue.
Incidentally for those around the world who may not know a badger is a medium sized black & white mammal fairly common in the UK. They carry TB which can infect cattle - allegedly. This is a far more contentious item than the badge problem.
It is amazing what comes up on this site.
Regards,
Jeff Townsend Cambridgeshire UK TA1957 TB0489 TD2 ZTT & Series 2A Landrover - get one if you can - it's as much fun as a T
To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
From: merlingarages@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:11:17 +0000
Subject: [mg-tabc] Badges
I am fed up with this badge question.
Someone ordered badges from a supplier in Hong Kong presumably because he was cheaper and probably better having seen the MG badges made for Moss in the USA.
But it was Hong Kong and not in some good old USA town so you cannot just post them for next day delivery.
No one had a sample examined before complete production or if they did and the lugs on the back had been already done before that sample was seen then that is the suppliers fault.
The lugs as I have said are better than nuts and is now standard sign fitting if they do not work then all of you would be walking down the High Street in hard hats.
This list is not the place for this constant bickering. I joined a while ago now and quite frankly was appalled by some of the comments I had when I started and could have left because of it.
I have had some real good information and have made some good long distance friends.
This is a classic example of what I speak about.
I think that whoever ordered the badges did not do their homework and assumed a lot and then treated the supplier very badly ( the supplier is not fault free as well)
I spent a long time in positions where I was ordering various items and one of those was what I call image items. These were never ordered without an exact sample in my hand with an assurance that production would be exactly the same ( I still made mistakes)
I have had enough ladies and gentlemen no more name calling sort this out off list and then tell us what is happening with what has been resolved and how you have treated Ron Hazlehurst and the other party's.
I might add that I do not buy badges and the only badge I have on my cars is a small MG Car Club badge (the oldest MG Car Club in the world ) on the front of my ZR so that I can tell it from the rest of the similar ZR,s on the road.
And another gripe while I am here how about members saying where they are in the world there is a huge world outside the USA.
David Darrell
TA 0455
Wales UK
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Re: Badges
I thought badgers were animals that " eats roots and leaves "Rossin Tea Gardens
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> To: merlingarages@gmail.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
> From: jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:46:46 +0000
> Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Badges
>
>
> David,
>
> I'm really confused by this issue. I have badges at the bottom of the field at the back of my house. I checked the other day and their nuts seemed OK although some didn't appear to have any at all. Incidentally I saw in the press that they have TB and are a danger to cows.
>
> I've owned my TB for 38 years and have never hit a cow!
>
> Sorry to be flippant but I thought it was time to lighten up this issue.
>
> Incidentally for those around the world who may not know a badger is a medium sized black & white mammal fairly common in the UK. They carry TB which can infect cattle - allegedly. This is a far more contentious item than the badge problem.
>
> It is amazing what comes up on this site.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff Townsend Cambridgeshire UK TA1957 TB0489 TD2 ZTT & Series 2A Landrover - get one if you can - it's as much fun as a T
>
>
>
> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
> From: merlingarages@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:11:17 +0000
> Subject: [mg-tabc] Badges
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am fed up with this badge question.
>
> Someone ordered badges from a supplier in Hong Kong presumably because he was cheaper and probably better having seen the MG badges made for Moss in the USA.
> But it was Hong Kong and not in some good old USA town so you cannot just post them for next day delivery.
>
> No one had a sample examined before complete production or if they did and the lugs on the back had been already done before that sample was seen then that is the suppliers fault.
> The lugs as I have said are better than nuts and is now standard sign fitting if they do not work then all of you would be walking down the High Street in hard hats.
>
> This list is not the place for this constant bickering. I joined a while ago now and quite frankly was appalled by some of the comments I had when I started and could have left because of it.
> I have had some real good information and have made some good long distance friends.
> This is a classic example of what I speak about.
>
> I think that whoever ordered the badges did not do their homework and assumed a lot and then treated the supplier very badly ( the supplier is not fault free as well)
> I spent a long time in positions where I was ordering various items and one of those was what I call image items. These were never ordered without an exact sample in my hand with an assurance that production would be exactly the same ( I still made mistakes)
>
> I have had enough ladies and gentlemen no more name calling sort this out off list and then tell us what is happening with what has been resolved and how you have treated Ron Hazlehurst and the other party's.
>
> I might add that I do not buy badges and the only badge I have on my cars is a small MG Car Club badge (the oldest MG Car Club in the world ) on the front of my ZR so that I can tell it from the rest of the similar ZR,s on the road.
>
> And another gripe while I am here how about members saying where they are in the world there is a huge world outside the USA.
>
> David Darrell
> TA 0455
> Wales UK
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Re: Badges
Hi Ross,
I think you are right although strictly I thought it was pandas that "eats, shoots & leaves". Either way it's a black & white issue.
I thought I should warn you that my eldest son Robert is coming your way next weekend to work as a Geophysicist based in Perth. It's his first proper job so I hope you guys out there treat him gently - something i know Aussies are reknowned for! I have told him not to mention the little urn.
Regards,
Jeff Townsend.
From: rossmvt@msn.com
To: jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk; merlingarages@gmail.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Badges
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:59:57 +1000
I thought badgers were animals that " eats roots and leaves "
Ross
in Tea Gardens
I think you are right although strictly I thought it was pandas that "eats, shoots & leaves". Either way it's a black & white issue.
I thought I should warn you that my eldest son Robert is coming your way next weekend to work as a Geophysicist based in Perth. It's his first proper job so I hope you guys out there treat him gently - something i know Aussies are reknowned for! I have told him not to mention the little urn.
Regards,
Jeff Townsend.
From: rossmvt@msn.com
To: jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk; merlingarages@gmail.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Badges
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:59:57 +1000
I thought badgers were animals that " eats roots and leaves "
Ross
in Tea Gardens
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> To: merlingarages@gmail.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
> From: jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:46:46 +0000
> Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Badges
>
>
> David,
>
> I'm really confused by this issue. I have badges at the bottom of the field at the back of my house. I checked the other day and their nuts seemed OK although some didn't appear to have any at all. Incidentally I saw in the press that they have TB and are a danger to cows.
>
> I've owned my TB for 38 years and have never hit a cow!
>
> Sorry to be flippant but I thought it was time to lighten up this issue.
>
> Incidentally for those around the world who may not know a badger is a medium sized black & white mammal fairly common in the UK. They carry TB which can infect cattle - allegedly. This is a far more contentious item than the badge problem.
>
> It is amazing what comes up on this site.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff Townsend Cambridgeshire UK TA1957 TB0489 TD2 ZTT & Series 2A Landrover - get one if you can - it's as much fun as a T
>
>
>
> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
> From: merlingarages@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:11:17 +0000
> Subject: [mg-tabc] Badges
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am fed up with this badge question.
>
> Someone ordered badges from a supplier in Hong Kong presumably because he was cheaper and probably better having seen the MG badges made for Moss in the USA.
> But it was Hong Kong and not in some good old USA town so you cannot just post them for next day delivery.
>
> No one had a sample examined before complete production or if they did and the lugs on the back had been already done before that sample was seen then that is the suppliers fault.
> The lugs as I have said are better than nuts and is now standard sign fitting if they do not work then all of you would be walking down the High Street in hard hats.
>
> This list is not the place for this constant bickering. I joined a while ago now and quite frankly was appalled by some of the comments I had when I started and could have left because of it.
> I have had some real good information and have made some good long distance friends.
> This is a classic example of what I speak about.
>
> I think that whoever ordered the badges did not do their homework and assumed a lot and then treated the supplier very badly ( the supplier is not fault free as well)
> I spent a long time in positions where I was ordering various items and one of those was what I call image items. These were never ordered without an exact sample in my hand with an assurance that production would be exactly the same ( I still made mistakes)
>
> I have had enough ladies and gentlemen no more name calling sort this out off list and then tell us what is happening with what has been resolved and how you have treated Ron Hazlehurst and the other party's.
>
> I might add that I do not buy badges and the only badge I have on my cars is a small MG Car Club badge (the oldest MG Car Club in the world ) on the front of my ZR so that I can tell it from the rest of the similar ZR,s on the road.
>
> And another gripe while I am here how about members saying where they are in the world there is a huge world outside the USA.
>
> David Darrell
> TA 0455
> Wales UK
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Badges
Badgers indeed. You cannot own an elephant in Vermont because they are carriers of TB, although they have very big TAs. We need Madhu's help. Dick Warren, a little nuts under endless snow, shoveling away on the roof top.
On Jan 21, 2011, at 3:46 AM, jeffrey townsend wrote:
>
> David,
>
> I'm really confused by this issue. I have badges at the bottom of the field at the back of my house. I checked the other day and their nuts seemed OK although some didn't appear to have any at all. Incidentally I saw in the press that they have TB and are a danger to cows.
>
> I've owned my TB for 38 years and have never hit a cow!
>
> Sorry to be flippant but I thought it was time to lighten up this issue.
>
> Incidentally for those around the world who may not know a badger is a medium sized black & white mammal fairly common in the UK. They carry TB which can infect cattle - allegedly. This is a far more contentious item than the badge problem.
>
> It is amazing what comes up on this site.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff Townsend Cambridgeshire UK TA1957 TB0489 TD2 ZTT & Series 2A Landrover - get one if you can - it's as much fun as a T
>
>
>
> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
> From: merlingarages@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:11:17 +0000
> Subject: [mg-tabc] Badges
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I am fed up with this badge question.
>
> Someone ordered badges from a supplier in Hong Kong presumably because he was cheaper and probably better having seen the MG badges made for Moss in the USA.
> But it was Hong Kong and not in some good old USA town so you cannot just post them for next day delivery.
>
> No one had a sample examined before complete production or if they did and the lugs on the back had been already done before that sample was seen then that is the suppliers fault.
> The lugs as I have said are better than nuts and is now standard sign fitting if they do not work then all of you would be walking down the High Street in hard hats.
>
> This list is not the place for this constant bickering. I joined a while ago now and quite frankly was appalled by some of the comments I had when I started and could have left because of it.
> I have had some real good information and have made some good long distance friends.
> This is a classic example of what I speak about.
>
> I think that whoever ordered the badges did not do their homework and assumed a lot and then treated the supplier very badly ( the supplier is not fault free as well)
> I spent a long time in positions where I was ordering various items and one of those was what I call image items. These were never ordered without an exact sample in my hand with an assurance that production would be exactly the same ( I still made mistakes)
>
> I have had enough ladies and gentlemen no more name calling sort this out off list and then tell us what is happening with what has been resolved and how you have treated Ron Hazlehurst and the other party's.
>
> I might add that I do not buy badges and the only badge I have on my cars is a small MG Car Club badge (the oldest MG Car Club in the world ) on the front of my ZR so that I can tell it from the rest of the similar ZR,s on the road.
>
> And another gripe while I am here how about members saying where they are in the world there is a huge world outside the USA.
>
> David Darrell
> TA 0455
> Wales UK
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Badges
*Thanks Jeff for expaining about badges and badgers. I would have missed
your wonderful British humour without that.
Arnold TC0580 Victoria BC (in the rain again)
*
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:46 AM, jeffrey townsend <
jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
your wonderful British humour without that.
Arnold TC0580 Victoria BC (in the rain again)
*
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:46 AM, jeffrey townsend <
jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>
> David,
>
> I'm really confused by this issue. I have badges at the bottom of the field
> at the back of my house. I checked the other day and their nuts seemed OK
> although some didn't appear to have any at all. Incidentally I saw in the
> press that they have TB and are a danger to cows.
>
>
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Fw: Badges
In response to a variety of comments about the T-ABC Badges, maybe we can end the thread here:
1. Russ Wilson (who graciously volunteered to help with the shipping and bookkeeping required) and I will be working together to find a qualified source for a new run of badges.
2. I am in the final stages of refining the badge artwork to clean up the lines that define the polished nickel barriers between the colors to make it easier for the manufacturer to build the tooling and keep the colors where they belong. The first run required too much oversight. Of the half-dozen original samples that I retained, they are all very slightly different. Because the color areas are all hand-filled (which Russ has seen being done in China on similar items), better definition was needed to reduce color spill-over. Fortunately, the old badges were very well received with no complaints, but we want to keep it that way with a new vendor.
3. The design will not be any different from the original (changes visible only under a magnifying glass) to minimize any difference between the "editions."
4. The badges that are being offered elsewhere on the list "at cost" were rejected by Jim Shade, have glued-on instead of soldered nuts, and are being offered outside the list's copyrights. I will say no more about them as I have never seen them and have no interest in doing so.
5. We are going to try to keep costs down to the bone by buying direct, with any overage above actual cost of product, shipping and tooling available to Walter for website maintenance. We will make this information available to the list as we receive it.
6. It will be several months before we have badges available, but we would appreciate an expression of interest (and the number wanted) as early as you can tell us, because the vendor's price will be predicated on the order size. Unless there is strong objection, we will probably order a few extra for people who miss the postings, but charge a little more for them to cover the crap-shoot. Again, this is not, and never has been, a business venture for anybody. Please get your reservation in to help all of us.
7. Please don't send any money, but direct your badge reservation to Russ.
8. For those of you that haven't seen the design, it's on the www.MG-TABC.org website, under "Membership Info." The original artwork and the original badge are posted there. They are 3-5/8" across the flats of the diagonal, weigh 6.5 ounces (184 grams), nickel-plated solid copper, and are enameled in five baked colors. As previously mentioned they have 8-32 nuts on the back for badge or panel mounting. Our website also has a couple of mounting suggestions.
9. I've had a few suggestions in the past, about better color matching to the original Abingdon logo, tire tread, etc. I welcome them all, but please remember the limitations of scale and the fact that we really want to keep the badge the same as best we can. For example, any preference for 10-32 instead of 8-32 nuts?
10. I haven't yet made the photos of the original badge that I promised to send to those who requested them, but I will.
Russ and I will be happy to answer questions about the project (Russ: badge reservations, Austin: design issues), but perhaps copy both of us to save time. We'll do the same, and keep them off the list unless it's of general interest.
Austin: lazybear@alum.mit.edu Russ: wilsonrs@ix.netcom.com
Best regards to the group,
Austin
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1. Russ Wilson (who graciously volunteered to help with the shipping and bookkeeping required) and I will be working together to find a qualified source for a new run of badges.
2. I am in the final stages of refining the badge artwork to clean up the lines that define the polished nickel barriers between the colors to make it easier for the manufacturer to build the tooling and keep the colors where they belong. The first run required too much oversight. Of the half-dozen original samples that I retained, they are all very slightly different. Because the color areas are all hand-filled (which Russ has seen being done in China on similar items), better definition was needed to reduce color spill-over. Fortunately, the old badges were very well received with no complaints, but we want to keep it that way with a new vendor.
3. The design will not be any different from the original (changes visible only under a magnifying glass) to minimize any difference between the "editions."
4. The badges that are being offered elsewhere on the list "at cost" were rejected by Jim Shade, have glued-on instead of soldered nuts, and are being offered outside the list's copyrights. I will say no more about them as I have never seen them and have no interest in doing so.
5. We are going to try to keep costs down to the bone by buying direct, with any overage above actual cost of product, shipping and tooling available to Walter for website maintenance. We will make this information available to the list as we receive it.
6. It will be several months before we have badges available, but we would appreciate an expression of interest (and the number wanted) as early as you can tell us, because the vendor's price will be predicated on the order size. Unless there is strong objection, we will probably order a few extra for people who miss the postings, but charge a little more for them to cover the crap-shoot. Again, this is not, and never has been, a business venture for anybody. Please get your reservation in to help all of us.
7. Please don't send any money, but direct your badge reservation to Russ.
8. For those of you that haven't seen the design, it's on the www.MG-TABC.org website, under "Membership Info." The original artwork and the original badge are posted there. They are 3-5/8" across the flats of the diagonal, weigh 6.5 ounces (184 grams), nickel-plated solid copper, and are enameled in five baked colors. As previously mentioned they have 8-32 nuts on the back for badge or panel mounting. Our website also has a couple of mounting suggestions.
9. I've had a few suggestions in the past, about better color matching to the original Abingdon logo, tire tread, etc. I welcome them all, but please remember the limitations of scale and the fact that we really want to keep the badge the same as best we can. For example, any preference for 10-32 instead of 8-32 nuts?
10. I haven't yet made the photos of the original badge that I promised to send to those who requested them, but I will.
Russ and I will be happy to answer questions about the project (Russ: badge reservations, Austin: design issues), but perhaps copy both of us to save time. We'll do the same, and keep them off the list unless it's of general interest.
Austin: lazybear@alum.mit.edu Russ: wilsonrs@ix.netcom.com
Best regards to the group,
Austin
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Re: Fw: Badges
BlankAustin,
I have one of the original badges on TC7025 and I love it. Well done!!
I also happen to like the ear or lip on the bottom of the badges with 2 3/16" holes , 3/4" apart, like the New England MG T Register
badge, as this gives more mounting options on either the clips that Moss sells 408-577 or straight thru bolting to other mounts.
Just a suggestion
John Patterson, TC 7025, Snowy Frankfort, MI.
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I have one of the original badges on TC7025 and I love it. Well done!!
I also happen to like the ear or lip on the bottom of the badges with 2 3/16" holes , 3/4" apart, like the New England MG T Register
badge, as this gives more mounting options on either the clips that Moss sells 408-577 or straight thru bolting to other mounts.
Just a suggestion
John Patterson, TC 7025, Snowy Frankfort, MI.
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Re: Badges
BADGERS! We don't need no stinking badgers.
gene olson
sunny southern california
gene olson
sunny southern california
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> I'm really confused by this issue. I have badges at the bottom of the field at the back of my house. I checked the other day and their nuts seemed OK although some didn't appear to have any at all. Incidentally I saw in the press that they have TB and are a danger to cows.
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> I've owned my TB for 38 years and have never hit a cow!
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> Sorry to be flippant but I thought it was time to lighten up this issue.
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> Incidentally for those around the world who may not know a badger is a medium sized black & white mammal fairly common in the UK.
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