Whenever we get into color discussions, there is always a difference of opinions. I have three prewar cars with darker brown badges. I posted the note from Sports and Vintage about the lack of agreement by experts in the UK. I will note that I acquired my TC in the late 70 s and my badge is lighter, similar but not quite as orange as Duncan s. I also believe that age and sunlight have an effect on color. I also think like paint batches, especially years ago, varied from batch to batch. Surely MG didn t order one batch of badges in 1929, which lasted to 1952. So probably all the variations might be correct. I am sure that my 47 TC badge is not original as I replaced it back then, probably from Moss. Mike [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]'jorolibb@aol.com' Jorolibb@aol.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, August 13, 2018 6:18 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion Duncan, So, what you're saying is, [i]"[/i][i]This radiator medallion is without doubt original. Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting. It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either. Orange is a closer description than brown. Not sure what the best description of the color is. Note the dimples..[/i][i]"[/i]and "[i]Here is another shot of the radiator badge on the unrestored '49 TC my dad got in '52.[/i][i]"[/i][i] [/i]you have undeniable proof that the badge is original, although you state that your dad didn't obtain the car until it was three years old,Hmm.... without a doubt, that's a pretty bold statement. John -----Original Message----- From: Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; emmgeeteesee Sent: Mon, Aug 13, 2018 3:21 pm Subject: Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [1 Attachment] Here is another shot of the radiator badge on the unrestored '49 TC my dad got in '52. I would describe it as more a bronze-orange, or similar to a "popular" spray on tan. DuncanCalifornia On Sunday, August 12, 2018, 9:03:19 PM PDT, David Lodge emmgeeteesee@gmail.com [mg-tabc] wrote: Satire! Satire! On 12 August 2018 at 11:17, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: OK so ~ ~ ~ >> the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! Then it's probably far better than the original Factory badges. Deduct 25 concours points for un-originality and over restoration immediately ! Clive Oxford UK.m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.c om> wrote: Well, this medallion is without a doubt original may be true, or maybe it is not true. The following is from Sports and Vintage UK, the largest and oldest firm supplying prewar MG Parts. We have seen original badges on pre war cars of both light and darker brown on cream, we decided to produce a large batch of 100 of each type! So now we can offer both colours at the market leading value price of 28 each We know opinion is divided on which looks better and indeed which is correct , in fact at Stoneleigh show 2 eminent MMM owners offered completely different `opinion as to which was correct for their J2 . They each bought a different badge! The picture really doesn`t do these badges justice, the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! So please specify light or dark brown on cream badge when ordering. If you go to their web site and click on chrome and badges , both are illustrated. Yes the lighter is more amber, the darker more brown. So, like the great debate on the color of early TC fire walls,(please let s not get into it again) There is no agreement on the exact brown in the medallion. I prefer the dark brown because I like the look. Mike [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.co m] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:01 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [2 Attachments] This radiator medallion is without doubt original. Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting. It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either. Orange is a closer description than brown. Not sure what the best description of the color is. Note the dimples... Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there.. Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color...Duncan-TC9866 On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.c om> wrote: I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in GasconyOn Tuesday, August 14, 2018, 4:35:01 AM PDT, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Grill shell medallion
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Duncan
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A lot more than color is wrong with the currently available Moss badge. There is no close up pic for the Sports and Vintage badge, but it appears to be a faithful copy. Moss offering is wrong in so many ways. http://www.sportsandvintage.co.uk/gifts.htm
https://mossmotors.com/medallion-radiator-shell
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Re: Grill shell medallion
Yep ! and for each tyre !
Clivem mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 7:33 PM, mgleckstein mgleckstein@monmouth.com> wrote: Good point. I think we should deduct 50 points for unoriginal air in the tires Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 2:17 PM, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote: OK so ~ ~ ~ >> the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! [/color][color=#000000]Then it's probably far better than the original Factory badges. Deduct 25 concours points for un-originality and over restoration immediately ! Clive Oxford UK.[/color] m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm[color=#000000] [/color] On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] Well, this medallion is without a doubt original may be true, or maybe it is not true. The following is from Sports and Vintage UK, the largest and oldest firm supplying prewar MG Parts. [u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u] We have seen original badges on pre war cars of both light and darker brown on cream, we decided to produce a large batch of 100 of each type! So now we can offer both colours at the market leading value price of 28 each[u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u]We know opinion is divided on which looks better and indeed which is correct , in fact at Stoneleigh show 2 eminent MMM owners[u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u]offered completely different `opinion as to which was correct for their J2 . They each bought a different badge![u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u]The picture really doesn`t do these badges justice, the enamel is the best we have ever seen ![u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u]So please specify light or dark brown on cream badge when ordering. [u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u]If you go to their web site and click on chrome and badges , both are illustrated.[u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u]Yes the lighter is more amber, the darker more brown. So, like the great debate on the color of early TC fire walls,(please let s not get into it again) There is no agreement on the exact brown in the medallion. I prefer the dark brown because I like the look. [u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u]Mike[u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u][b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:01 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [2 Attachments][u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u][u][/u]This radiator medallion is without doubt original. Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting. It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either. Orange is a closer description than brown. Not sure what the best description of the color is. Note the dimples. [u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u]Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there. Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color..[u][/u][u][/u]Duncan-[u][/u][u][/u]TC9866[u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u]On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u][u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u] [u][/u][u][/u]I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony[u][/u][u][/u] [u][/u][u][/u][u][/u][u][/u]
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Steve S
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Re: Grill shell medallion
Unless the Earth's atmosphere has been changed, it's the same air. The factory didn't use their own special air or anything. No points off.
- Steve Simmons, TC8975
On 8/15/2018 12:49 PM, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] wrote:
Yep ! and for each tyre ! Clive m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1536251963&sig=cG80j.qF4UDxtHeOapW23g--~D[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 7:33 PM, mgleckstein mgleckstein@monmouth.com> wrote: Good point. I think we should deduct 50 points for unoriginal air in the tires Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 2:17 PM, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote: OK so ~ ~ ~ >> the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! [/color] [color=#000000]Then it's probably far better than the original Factory badges. Deduct 25 concours points for un-originality and over restoration immediately ! Clive Oxford UK.[/color] m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [color=#000000] [/color] On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Well, this medallion is without a doubt original may be true, or maybe it is not true. The following is from Sports and Vintage UK, the largest and oldest firm supplying prewar MG Parts. We have seen original badges on pre war cars of both light and darker brown on cream, we decided to produce a large batch of 100 of each type! So now we can offer both colours at the market leading value price of 28 each We know opinion is divided on which looks better and indeed which is correct , in fact at Stoneleigh show 2 eminent MMM owners offered completely different `opinion as to which was correct for their J2 . They each bought a different badge! The picture really doesn`t do these badges justice, the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! So please specify light or dark brown on cream badge when ordering. If you go to their web site and click on chrome and badges , both are illustrated. Yes the lighter is more amber, the darker more brown. So, like the great debate on the color of early TC fire walls,(please let s not get into it again) There is no agreement on the exact brown in the medallion. I prefer the dark brown because I like the look. Mike [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:01 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [2 Attachments] This radiator medallion is without doubt original. Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting. It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either. Orange is a closer description than brown. Not sure what the best description of the color is. Note the dimples. Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there. Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color... Duncan- TC9866 On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony
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MGLeckstein
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Re: Grill shell medallion
England s air has changed radically. When our cars were made and before, coal was the main fuel for homes. Ever hear of London Fog? The conversion to electric and banning of coal for heat changed the air. So the air in the U.K. did change.
Sent from my iPhone
Unless the Earth's atmosphere has been changed, it's the same air. The factory didn't use their own special air or anything. No points off. - Steve Simmons, TC8975 On 8/15/2018 12:49 PM, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] wrote: Yep ! and for each tyre ! Clive m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1536251963&sig=cG80j.qF4UDxtHeOapW23g--~D[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 7:33 PM, mgleckstein mgleckstein@monmouth.com> wrote: Good point. I think we should deduct 50 points for unoriginal air in the tires [img]cid:[/img] Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 2:17 PM, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote: OK so ~ ~ ~ >> the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! [/color] [color=#000000]Then it's probably far better than the original Factory badges. Deduct 25 concours points for un-originality and over restoration immediately ! Clive Oxford UK.[/color] m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [color=#000000] [/color] On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Well, this medallion is without a doubt original may be true, or maybe it is not true. The following is from Sports and Vintage UK, the largest and oldest firm supplying prewar MG Parts. We have seen original badges on pre war cars of both light and darker brown on cream, we decided to produce a large batch of 100 of each type! So now we can offer both colours at the market leading value price of 28 each We know opinion is divided on which looks better and indeed which is correct , in fact at Stoneleigh show 2 eminent MMM owners offered completely different `opinion as to which was correct for their J2 . They each bought a different badge! The picture really doesn`t do these badges justice, the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! So please specify light or dark brown on cream badge when ordering. If you go to their web site and click on chrome and badges , both are illustrated. Yes the lighter is more amber, the darker more brown. So, like the great debate on the color of early TC fire walls,(please let s not get into it again) There is no agreement on the exact brown in the medallion. I prefer the dark brown because I like the look. Mike [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:01 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [2 Attachments] This radiator medallion is without doubt original. Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting. It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either. Orange is a closer description than brown. Not sure what the best description of the color is. Note the dimples. Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there. Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color... Duncan- TC9866 On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in GasconyOn Aug 16, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Steve S mail@mgnuts.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Mark & Sheila Masters
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Re: Grill shell medallion
I did hear of a little old lady in a rather hot climate where she needed some work done on her old car.Instructions were not to change the water in the radiator as it was the original water from England and thus would have been much colder thus improving the cooling of her precious car!CheersMark
On 17 Aug 2018, at 14:58, mgleckstein mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: England s air has changed radically. When our cars were made and before, coal was the main fuel for homes. Ever hear of London Fog? The conversion to electric and banning of coal for heat changed the air. So the air in the U.K. did change. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Steve S mail@mgnuts.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Unless the Earth's atmosphere has been changed, it's the same air. The factory didn't use their own special air or anything. No points off.- Steve Simmons, TC8975 On 8/15/2018 12:49 PM, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] wrote: Yep ! and for each tyre ! Clivem mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1536251964&sig=szSEDGKGFcqH4m7EGIQ.nw--~D[/img]Virus-free. www.avast.com On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 7:33 PM, mgleckstein mgleckstein@monmouth.com> wrote: Good point. I think we should deduct 50 points for unoriginal air in the tires [img]cid:[/img] Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 2:17 PM, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote: OK so ~ ~ ~ >> the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! Then it's probably far better than the original Factory badges. Deduct 25 concours points for un-originality and over restoration immediately ! Clive Oxford UK.m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Well, this medallion is without a doubt original may be true, or maybe it is not true. The following is from Sports and Vintage UK, the largest and oldest firm supplying prewar MG Parts. We have seen original badges on pre war cars of both light and darker brown on cream, we decided to produce a large batch of 100 of each type! So now we can offer both colours at the market leading value price of 28 each We know opinion is divided on which looks better and indeed which is correct , in fact at Stoneleigh show 2 eminent MMM owners offered completely different `opinion as to which was correct for their J2 . They each bought a different badge! The picture really doesn`t do these badges justice, the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! So please specify light or dark brown on cream badge when ordering. If you go to their web site and click on chrome and badges , both are illustrated. Yes the lighter is more amber, the darker more brown. So, like the great debate on the color of early TC fire walls,(please let s not get into it again) There is no agreement on the exact brown in the medallion. I prefer the dark brown because I like the look. Mike From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:01 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [2 Attachments] This radiator medallion is without doubt original. Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting. It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either. Orange is a closer description than brown. Not sure what the best description of the color is. Note the dimples. Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there. Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color...Duncan-TC9866 On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony
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Steve S
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Re: Grill shell medallion
Perhaps, but the coal dust wasn't factory specification. Global atmosphere, same air everywhere and same air the dinosaurs were breathing. Unless they had a custom mix of gasses, I still say no originality points off! 
- Steve Simmons, TC8975
On 8/16/2018 7:58 PM, mgleckstein mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] wrote:
- Steve Simmons, TC8975
On 8/16/2018 7:58 PM, mgleckstein mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] wrote:
England s air has changed radically. When our cars were made and before, coal was the main fuel for homes. Ever hear of London Fog? The conversion to electric and banning of coal for heat changed the air. So the air in the U.K. did change. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Steve S mail@mgnuts.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Unless the Earth's atmosphere has been changed, it's the same air. The factory didn't use their own special air or anything. No points off. - Steve Simmons, TC8975 On 8/15/2018 12:49 PM, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] wrote: Yep ! and for each tyre ! Clive m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1536251964&sig=szSEDGKGFcqH4m7EGIQ.nw--~D[/img] Virus-free. www.avast.com On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 7:33 PM, mgleckstein mgleckstein@monmouth.com> wrote: Good point. I think we should deduct 50 points for unoriginal air in the tires [img]cid:[/img] Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 2:17 PM, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote: OK so ~ ~ ~ >> the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! [/color] [color=#000000]Then it's probably far better than the original Factory badges. Deduct 25 concours points for un-originality and over restoration immediately ! Clive Oxford UK.[/color] m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [color=#000000] [/color] On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Well, this medallion is without a doubt original may be true, or maybe it is not true. The following is from Sports and Vintage UK, the largest and oldest firm supplying prewar MG Parts. We have seen original badges on pre war cars of both light and darker brown on cream, we decided to produce a large batch of 100 of each type! So now we can offer both colours at the market leading value price of 28 each We know opinion is divided on which looks better and indeed which is correct , in fact at Stoneleigh show 2 eminent MMM owners offered completely different `opinion as to which was correct for their J2 . They each bought a different badge! The picture really doesn`t do these badges justice, the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! So please specify light or dark brown on cream badge when ordering. If you go to their web site and click on chrome and badges , both are illustrated. Yes the lighter is more amber, the darker more brown. So, like the great debate on the color of early TC fire walls,(please let s not get into it again) There is no agreement on the exact brown in the medallion. I prefer the dark brown because I like the look. Mike [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] [b]Sent:[/b] Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:01 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [2 Attachments] This radiator medallion is without doubt original. Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting. It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either. Orange is a closer description than brown. Not sure what the best description of the color is. Note the dimples. Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there. Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color... Duncan- TC9866 On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony
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Mike Inglehearn
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Re: Grill shell medallion
A number of years ago a friend who like to play little jokes on his wife, was working away from home and he called his wife and said due to the length of time he was away, before he got back she needed to take the car to the garage and ask them to change the air in the tyres which she of course did much to the amusement of their local garage!Mike
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[b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion
I did hear of a little old lady in a rather hot climate where she needed some work done on her old car.Instructions were not to change the water in the radiator as it was the original water from England and thus would have been much colder thus improving the cooling of her precious car!CheersMark
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When our cars were made and before, coal was the main fuel for homes. Ever hear of London Fog? The conversion to electric and banning of coal for heat changed the air. So the air in the U.K. did change. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Steve S mail@mgnuts.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Unless the Earth's atmosphere has been changed, it's the same air. The factory didn't use their own special air or anything. No points off.- Steve Simmons, TC8975 On 8/15/2018 12:49 PM, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com [mg-tabc] wrote: Yep ! and for each tyre ! Clivem mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=https%3A%2F%2Fipmcdn.avast.com%2Fimages%2Ficons%2Ficon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif&t=1536251964&sig=szSEDGKGFcqH4m7EGIQ.nw--~D[/img]Virus-free. www.avast.com On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 7:33 PM, mgleckstein mgleckstein@monmouth.com> wrote: Good point.. I think we should deduct 50 points for unoriginal air in the tires Sent from my iPhone On Aug 12, 2018, at 2:17 PM, CLIVE SHERRIFF csherriff99@gmail.com> wrote: OK so ~ ~ ~ >> the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! Then it's probably far better than the original Factory badges. Deduct 25 concours points for un-originality and over restoration immediately ! Clive Oxford UK.m mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM, 'Michael Leckstein' mgleckstein@monmouth.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Well, this medallion is without a doubt original may be true, or maybe it is not true. The following is from Sports and Vintage UK, the largest and oldest firm supplying prewar MG Parts. We have seen original badges on pre war cars of both light and darker brown on cream, we decided to produce a large batch of 100 of each type! So now we can offer both colours at the market leading value price of 28 each We know opinion is divided on which looks better and indeed which is correct , in fact at Stoneleigh show 2 eminent MMM owners offered completely different `opinion as to which was correct for their J2 . They each bought a different badge! The picture really doesn`t do these badges justice, the enamel is the best we have ever seen ! So please specify light or dark brown on cream badge when ordering. If you go to their web site and click on chrome and badges , both are illustrated. Yes the lighter is more amber, the darker more brown. So, like the great debate on the color of early TC fire walls,(please let s not get into it again) There is no agreement on the exact brown in the medallion. I prefer the dark brown because I like the look. Mike From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duncan morelists@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 11:01 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Fwd: [mg-tabc] Grill shell medallion [2 Attachments] This radiator medallion is without doubt original. Color reproduction in picture finally came out true with fluorescent lights on in garage, flash on camera, and garage door open while sun close to setting. It is not really orange as Roger said, but it is surely not brown either. Orange is a closer description than brown. Not sure what the best description of the color is. Note the dimples. Second pic of G is without flash, and a bit darker that what is actually there. Spare tire spinner MG logo also original and identical in color...Duncan-TC9866 On Saturday, August 11, 2018, 8:09:14 AM PDT, 'Jean Vignau' jeanvignau@orange.fr [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have always heard that MG colours were bread and butter, as TB0592 s badge is. Jean in Gascony
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Re: Grill shell medallion
I know it's roughly the same air then as now, but it's the ORIGINALITY and the PATINA that means so much !
CliveOxford UK
On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:06 AM, Steve S mail@mgnuts.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] Perhaps, but the coal dust wasn't factory specification. Global atmosphere, same air everywhere and same air the dinosaurs were breathing. Unless they had a custom mix of gasses, I still say no originality points off!
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