The Sacred Octagon

DickShaler@aol.com
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Re: The Sacred Octagon

Post by DickShaler@aol.com » Thu Nov 29, 2001 5:42 pm

This list "wouldn't exist" without NEMGTR? I'm sure many of those who manage, contribute to and enjoy this list would think quite differently. Perhaps some don't recognize the crushing reality that NEMGTR is quite provincial and has limited relevance to much of the worldwide MG community. Certainly, when I was living in California most of the content of the "Sacred Octagon" had little bearing on our interest or activities. Although it was nice to be able to support fellow octaphiles and to keep in touch with the eastern US scene. The technical material was always interesting and helpful if sometimes not quite "cutting edge". Please, let us take each offering for what it is and not try to place the Crown too carelessly. With Best Regards to All Richard Shaler

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Re: The Sacred Octagon

Post by DickShaler@aol.com » Thu Nov 29, 2001 5:42 pm

This list "wouldn't exist" without NEMGTR? I'm sure many of those who manage, contribute to and enjoy this list would think quite differently. Perhaps some don't recognize the crushing reality that NEMGTR is quite provincial and has limited relevance to much of the worldwide MG community. Certainly, when I was living in California most of the content of the "Sacred Octagon" had little bearing on our interest or activities. Although it was nice to be able to support fellow octaphiles and to keep in touch with the eastern US scene. The technical material was always interesting and helpful if sometimes not quite "cutting edge". Please, let us take each offering for what it is and not try to place the Crown too carelessly. With Best Regards to All Richard Shaler

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Re: The Sacred Octagon

Post by DickShaler@aol.com » Thu Nov 29, 2001 5:43 pm

This list "wouldn't exist" without NEMGTR? I'm sure many of those who manage, contribute to and enjoy this list would think quite differently. Perhaps some don't recognize the crushing reality that NEMGTR is quite provincial and has limited relevance to much of the worldwide MG community. Certainly, when I was living in California most of the content of the "Sacred Octagon" had little bearing on our interest or activities. Although it was nice to be able to support fellow octaphiles and to keep in touch with the eastern US scene. The technical material was always interesting and helpful if sometimes not quite "cutting edge". Please, let us take each offering for what it is and not try to place the Crown too carelessly. With Best Regards to All Richard Shaler

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Re: The Sacred Octagon

Post by DickShaler@aol.com » Thu Nov 29, 2001 5:43 pm

This list "wouldn't exist" without NEMGTR? I'm sure many of those who manage, contribute to and enjoy this list would think quite differently. Perhaps some don't recognize the crushing reality that NEMGTR is quite provincial and has limited relevance to much of the worldwide MG community. Certainly, when I was living in California most of the content of the "Sacred Octagon" had little bearing on our interest or activities. Although it was nice to be able to support fellow octaphiles and to keep in touch with the eastern US scene. The technical material was always interesting and helpful if sometimes not quite "cutting edge". Please, let us take each offering for what it is and not try to place the Crown too carelessly. With Best Regards to All Richard Shaler

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Re: The Sacred Octagon

Post by et1 » Thu Nov 29, 2001 6:19 pm

Dick: Sorry for my outburst, but I think that some people are being slandered who don't really deserve it. Obviously a bimonthly club magazine is obsolete in getting out technical information, and I have nothing but praise for those who created and manage tabc's. What I meant was this, and it's only my opinion, and really relates only to North America. Back in the late 60's when the Register was created, it managed to draw people together, and keep them interested in our cars, when many of them (the cars) were neglected and in danger of being scrapped. They created a community of owners, and supplied technical information at the time that kept the cars around. I doubt if there would be anywhere close to the number of T series cars left if it hadn't been for the Register's contribution at that time, nor would there be as much interest. If you suggest that at the present time that the Register is not necessary for the survival of our cars, I would agree. Regards Mark Evenchick
----- Original Message ----- From: DickShaler@aol.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] The Sacred Octagon > This list "wouldn't exist" without NEMGTR? I'm sure many of those who > manage, contribute to and enjoy this list would think quite differently. > Perhaps some don't recognize the crushing reality that NEMGTR is quite > provincial and has limited relevance to much of the worldwide MG community. > Certainly, when I was living in California most of the content of the "Sacred > Octagon" had little bearing on our interest or activities. Although it was > nice to be able to support fellow octaphiles and to keep in touch with the > eastern US scene. The technical material was always interesting and helpful > if sometimes not quite "cutting edge". > Please, let us take each offering for what it is and not try to place the > Crown too carelessly. > > With Best Regards to All > > Richard Shaler > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >

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Re: The Sacred Octagon

Post by AJChalmers@aol.com » Thu Nov 29, 2001 6:44 pm

The amazing popularity of these wee cars probably didn't need any help from any clubs/orgs/registers. There is a magic about them that defies all logic. Of course the magic could wear off when all the geezers are gone - Not too many young folk are into LBCs. My son lusts after my 356 Porsche, not the TC. I am going to keep trying to get his interest up by restoring my TA to fit a 6' 6" driver!

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Re: The Sacred Octagon

Post by joecurto@aol.com » Fri Nov 30, 2001 6:42 am

I am sort of a warbird buff, and I seem to remember that the reason that we have so many B25s left in the world was that in the late 1960s the commercial interest in these planes had come to the end and that they were left idle around the country at all sorts of places (we had one here in New York behind an Army-Navy store for years), and the reason given was that the movie Catch 22 was being made and they had an open call for these aircraft. This revived and interest and since they were saved from the scrap heap for a little while longer until people saw the wisdom to save and restore them. So my point is that we all love these "wee" little cars and it is amazing how many have survived world wars and the scrap man but I still feel that the main thrust of resurrecting these cars was the T Register at least in America, that and that crummy movie "Love Story", I do not have to tell any of the old timers how we were viewed in the 1960s regarding keeping these things running. Joe

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Re: The Sacred Octagon

Post by Want1937hd@aol.com » Fri Nov 30, 2001 6:56 am

Ditto! Bob TC4956
I am sort of a warbird buff, and I seem to remember that the reason that we have so many B25s left in the world was that in the late 1960s the commercial interest in these planes had come to the end and that they were left idle around the country at all sorts of places (we had one here in New York behind an Army-Navy store for years), and the reason given was that the movie Catch 22 was being made and they had an open call for these aircraft. This revived and interest and since they were saved from the scrap heap for a little while longer until people saw the wisdom to save and restore them. So my point is that we all love these "wee" little cars and it is amazing how many have survived world wars and the scrap man but I still feel that the main thrust of resurrecting these cars was the T Register at least in America, that and that crummy movie "Love Story", I do not have to tell any of the old timers how we were viewed in the 1960s regarding keeping these things running. Joe

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The Sacred Octagon

Post by Barc Cunningham » Fri Nov 30, 2001 7:18 am

Guys, Guys [and Ladies]; Is there really a point to bashing the NEMG'T Register. I have been a member for over 30 years and have enjoyed the friendship of a wonderful group of fellow members. I've had the benefit of attending a number of GOF's and tours in my T car and enjoyed every one. I've also been a member of TABc's from almost the beginning and have also enjoyed the fellowship of the members. In each case these organizations have been the result of the hard work of dedicated people like Walter and Jim, and Dick Knudson and others in the NEMG'T' R. I believe we should thank them for their efforts not criticize them or the groups they represent. The CD plan for TSO was a great idea by the Register to make the information available to everyone at reasonable cost. Unfortunately it was going to cost much to much for the register to afford. Instead of bashing them for the attempt to do something good, we should try to work out a way to help get it done. And as Mark Evenchick says, come to Wolfville Nova Scotia, Canada, for GOF Mark 73 to be sponsered by the 'Atlantic Chapter' of NEMG'T' Register. It will be held during the first week of July 2002 and will have some very special Nova Scotia events along with a hill climb and rally other driving activities, and car show, etc.Come drive your 'T' on some of the greatest MG roads in America. My best to all, Barc Cunningham, President Atlantic Chapter, NEMG'T' Register

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Re: The Sacred Octagon

Post by Victoria Vernon » Fri Nov 30, 2001 8:34 am

Hello out there, It is strange that the NEMGT Register produced that excellent book, 'The T Series Handbook' with the articles by our contributor F.E.(Chip Old lll). They obviously made money out of that venture so why can't they do an even better job via new technology viz. CD ROM. Clem TC 7218
----- Original Message ----- From: Chip Old fold@bcpl.net> To: MG-TABC mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] The Sacred Octagon > On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Gene Gillam wrote: > > > I was just looking at a back issue of the Sacred Octagon (April 99) > > and noticed that they were advertising reserved copies of the Sacred > > Octagon from 1964-1999 on a CD-ROM. Was this CD ever made? > > I think that project was dropped. > > -- > Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 > Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E > fold@bcpl.net > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

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