valve cover gasket

[diecuts2333]

Bruce,  As Gene mentions, Mcmaster-Carr sells the nitrile material in smaller quantities.  Here is a link. http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-rubber-sheets/=zprs83 I would suggest PN 896K94   50 Durometer, 3/16" thick, 1 ft x 36" at around $60 will easily make 4 valve cover gaskets. A scissors does a good job, takes about 5 minutes.    One will last just about forever, keep one for a spare and donate a pair to a friend..   Cheers,  Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TC0780  -----Original Message----- From: Gene Gillam anngene@bellsouth.net> To: diecuts diecuts@aol.com> Cc: bruce ; mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2015 6:42 pm Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket Based on Lee's recommendation several years ago I bought this and made a couple of gaskets from it.  Easy to mark and cut and has been working satisfactorily for me.  I believe I bought my material from McMaster Carr. Gene Gillam Saucier, MS Pardon the brevity, this was sent from my iPad   There are different blends of cork gaskets that last much longer than 100% cork.  A 3/16 to 1/4" thick cork /nitrile rubber (Buna N) blend will last for years and look correct.  The material is not low cost, around $45 for a piece 42" x 12",  which is why plain cork was used at a cost of $18.  Six valve cover gaskets can be cut from a sheet this size, which equates to $7.50 vs $3 in material costs.  This is , according to one website, surplus material and is deemed low cost. http://www.ramgaskets.com/gasket-materials/nitrile-cork-gasket-material/

[diecuts2333]

Steve, you are right, missed a '9'.  McMaster-Carr PN for the Ultra strength Buna N rubber should be 8969K94.   I corrected it in the thread as well. Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TC0780 -----Original Message----- From: Steve S mail@mgnuts.com> To: diecuts diecuts@aol.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2015 1:47 am Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket Lee, can't find the part number you used.  Looks like you may have used the same stuff I was considering.  "Ultra-Strength Oil-Resistant Buna-N Rubber sheet".  For some reason, the ultra strength is slightly cheaper than the high strength. - Steve Simmons, TC8975 On 11/7/2015 9:50 PM, diecuts@aol.com [mg-tabc] wrote:

[quote]   Bruce,  As Gene mentions, Mcmaster-Carr sells the nitrile material in smaller quantities.  Here is a link. http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-rubber-sheets/=zprs83 I would suggest PN 8969K94   50 Durometer, 3/16" thick, 1 ft x 36" at around $60 will easily make 4 valve cover gaskets. A scissors does a good job, takes about 5 minutes.    One will last just about forever, keep one for a spare and donate a pair to a friend..   Cheers,  Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TC0780  -----Original Message----- From: Gene Gillam anngene@bellsouth.net To: diecuts diecuts@aol.com Cc: bruce bruce@mbssales.ca; mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, Nov 7, 2015 6:42 pm Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket Based on Lee's recommendation several years ago I bought this and made a couple of gaskets from it.  Easy to mark and cut and has been working satisfactorily for me.  I believe I bought my material from McMaster Carr. 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[Peter Cole]

Bruce, There's a guy in Australia that sells nitrile rubber tappet chest gaskets and rocker box gaskets for the XPAG. I bought a set from him a while back but can't remember his contact details now. Perhaps someone on the list from Australia will know? RegardsPeter

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[i.thomson@talk21.com]

Is there a gasket material other then cork available ? Bruce Doran-Veevers ------------ Bruce, if you can get a sheet of nitrile rubber, about 1/8 thick, you can cut yourself one which will last forever without compressing like cork ones do. Ian Thomson Notts uk

[diecuts2333]

Ian,   It is true that the nitrile gaskets last a long time since they do not hold a 'set' and recover, but it is important to get the softer durometer such as 40 or 50 and at least 3/16 to 1/4 " thick since the two knurled nuts on top of the valve cover are all that's there to do the compressing.    Cork is soft and thick, which is why it works.   The nitrile must emulate the characteristics of the cork....1/8" thick at 60 duro (most common duro) would not work for a valve cover gasket very well, but would be 'swell' for an oil pan gasket which has flatter surfaces and more securing bolts.....   Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TA 2969 Tickford -----Original Message----- From: 'i.thomson@talk21.com' i.thomson@talk21.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2015 7:18 am Subject: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket #ygrps-yiv-880987176 #ygrps-yiv-880987176AOLMsgPart_2_6003145e-5343-4e3e-89c4-38248ea4159a td{color:black;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody .ygrps-yiv-880987176ygrp-photo-title{clear:both;font-size:smaller;height:15px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;width:75px;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-880987176ygrp-photo{background-position:center;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-color:white;border:1px solid black;height:62px;width:62px;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-880987176photo-title a, #ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-880987176photo-title a:active, #ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-880987176photo-title a:hover, #ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-880987176photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-880987176attach-table div.ygrps-yiv-880987176attach-row {clear:both;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-880987176attach-table div.ygrps-yiv-880987176attach-row div {float:left;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody p {clear:both;padding:15px 0 3px 0;overflow:hidden;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-880987176ygrp-file {width:30px;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-880987176attach-table div.ygrps-yiv-880987176attach-row div div a {text-decoration:none;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-880987176attach-table div.ygrps-yiv-880987176attach-row div div span {font-weight:normal;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody div.ygrps-yiv-880987176ygrp-file-title {font-weight:bold;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 #ygrps-yiv-880987176AOLMsgPart_2_6003145e-5343-4e3e-89c4-38248ea4159a td{color:black;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody #ygrps-yiv-880987176ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody #ygrps-yiv-880987176ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody #ygrps-yiv-880987176ygrp-mkp #ygrps-yiv-880987176hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody #ygrps-yiv-880987176ygrp-mkp #ygrps-yiv-880987176ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody #ygrps-yiv-880987176ygrp-mkp .ygrps-yiv-880987176ad {padding:0 0;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody #ygrps-yiv-880987176ygrp-mkp .ygrps-yiv-880987176ad p {margin:0;}#ygrps-yiv-880987176 .ygrps-yiv-880987176aolReplacedBody #ygrps-yiv-880987176ygrp-mkp .ygrps-yiv-880987176ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} Is there a gasket material other then cork available ? Bruce Doran-Veevers ------------ Bruce, if you can get a sheet of nitrile rubber, about 1/8 thick, you can cut yourself one which will last forever without compressing like cork ones do. Ian Thomson Notts uk

[Burbury Close]

Doug Pelton sells valve and tappet nitrile covers which by my experience work great - from the frame up.  Jim DavisTC 7225 Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2015, at 12:46 PM, diecuts@aol.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Ian,   It is true that the nitrile gaskets last a long time since they do not hold a 'set' and recover, but it is important to get the softer durometer such as 40 or 50 and at least 3/16 to 1/4 " thick since the two knurled nuts on top of the valve cover are all that's there to do the compressing.    Cork is soft and thick, which is why it works.   The nitrile must emulate the characteristics of the cork....1/8" thick at 60 duro (most common duro) would not work for a valve cover gasket very well, but would be 'swell' for an oil pan gasket which has flatter surfaces and more securing bolts.....   Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TA 2969 Tickford -----Original Message----- From: 'i.thomson@talk21.com' i.thomson@talk21.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2015 7:18 am Subject: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket Is there a gasket material other then cork available ? Bruce Doran-Veevers ------------ Bruce, if you can get a sheet of nitrile rubber, about 1/8 thick, you can cut yourself one which will last forever without compressing like cork ones do. Ian Thomson Notts uk

[jeffrey townsend]

Hi All, In the 1970's I recall using Fiat 124 (maybe 144) rocker cover gaskets on the XPAG. These were a great fit and whatever the material was meant that they could be re-used. I suppose that these are now hard to find. Using an alloy cover with a flat ground base gives better seating than the rounded steel covers whatever type of gasket is used. Regards, Jeff Townsend  TA1957  TB0489 [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Burbury Close burburyclose@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] 08 November 2015 19:13 [b]To:[/b] diecuts@aol.com [b]Cc:[/b] i.thomson@talk21.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket    

Doug Pelton sells valve and tappet nitrile covers which by my experience work great - from the frame up.  Jim Davis TC 7225 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2015, at 12:46 PM, diecuts@aol.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Ian,  

It is true that the nitrile gaskets last a long time since they do not hold a 'set' and recover, but it is important to get the softer durometer such as 40 or 50 and at least 3/16 to 1/4 " thick since the two knurled nuts on top of the valve cover are all that's there to do the compressing.    Cork is soft and thick, which is why it works.   The nitrile must emulate the characteristics of the cork....1/8" thick at 60 duro (most common duro) would not work for a valve cover gasket very well, but would be 'swell' for an oil pan gasket which has flatter surfaces and more securing bolts.....   Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TA 2969 Tickford -----Original Message----- From: 'i.thomson@talk21.com' i.thomson@talk21.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2015 7:18 am Subject: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket Is there a gasket material other then cork available ? Bruce Doran-Veevers ------------ Bruce, if you can get a sheet of nitrile rubber, about 1/8 thick, you can cut yourself one which will last forever without compressing like cork ones do. Ian Thomson Notts uk

[diecuts2333]

Good suggestion.   However, remember that old gaskets, especially paper ones , shrink over time and become brittle and useless.   The average is 2 to 5%, depends on the material.  Vulcanized fibre averages 1% and that is very stable stuff....   That means a 'pumpkin' gasket 10" in dia may be off up to 1/2".     One of the few NOS that you don't really want to have is an old gasket set....except for posterity.... Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI   Home of Henry Ford who bought the first MG to the USA in the twenties,was in the museum for decades, then sold by mistake....still a TC on display......   TA2969 Tickford -----Original Message----- From: jeffrey townsend jeff.townsend@hotmail.co.uk> To: diecuts diecuts@aol.com>; Burbury Close burburyclose@yahoo.com> Cc: i.thomson i.thomson@talk21.com>; mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2015 2:19 pm Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket #ygrps-yiv-1564766100 #ygrps-yiv-1564766100AOLMsgPart_2_118240d2-18f9-4f82-801f-b407d1ec3c13 td{color:black;}#ygrps-yiv-1564766100 .ygrps-yiv-1564766100aolReplacedBody P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} Hi All, In the 1970's I recall using Fiat 124 (maybe 144) rocker cover gaskets on the XPAG. These were a great fit and whatever the material was meant that they could be re-used. I suppose that these are now hard to find. Using an alloy cover with a flat ground base gives better seating than the rounded steel covers whatever type of gasket is used. Regards, Jeff Townsend  TA1957  TB0489 [b]From:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Burbury Close burburyclose@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> [b]Sent:[/b] 08 November 2015 19:13 [b]To:[/b] diecuts@aol.com [b]Cc:[/b] i.thomson@talk21.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket     Doug Pelton sells valve and tappet nitrile covers which by my experience work great - from the frame up.  Jim Davis TC 7225 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2015, at 12:46 PM, diecuts@aol.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Ian,   It is true that the nitrile gaskets last a long time since they do not hold a 'set' and recover, but it is important to get the softer durometer such as 40 or 50 and at least 3/16 to 1/4 " thick since the two knurled nuts on top of the valve cover are all that's there to do the compressing.    Cork is soft and thick, which is why it works.   The nitrile must emulate the characteristics of the cork....1/8" thick at 60 duro (most common duro) would not work for a valve cover gasket very well, but would be 'swell' for an oil pan gasket which has flatter surfaces and more securing bolts.....   Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TA 2969 Tickford -----Original Message----- From: 'i.thomson@talk21.com' i.thomson@talk21.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2015 7:18 am Subject: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket Is there a gasket material other then cork available ? Bruce Doran-Veevers ------------ Bruce, if you can get a sheet of nitrile rubber, about 1/8 thick, you can cut yourself one which will last forever without compressing like cork ones do. Ian Thomson Notts uk

[Burbury Close]

I meant gaskets not covers Sent from my iPad

On Nov 8, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Burbury Close burburyclose@yahoo.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Doug Pelton sells valve and tappet nitrile covers which by my experience work great - from the frame up.  Jim DavisTC 7225 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 8, 2015, at 12:46 PM, diecuts@aol.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   Ian,   It is true that the nitrile gaskets last a long time since they do not hold a 'set' and recover, but it is important to get the softer durometer such as 40 or 50 and at least 3/16 to 1/4 " thick since the two knurled nuts on top of the valve cover are all that's there to do the compressing.    Cork is soft and thick, which is why it works.   The nitrile must emulate the characteristics of the cork....1/8" thick at 60 duro (most common duro) would not work for a valve cover gasket very well, but would be 'swell' for an oil pan gasket which has flatter surfaces and more securing bolts.....   Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TA 2969 Tickford -----Original Message----- From: 'i.thomson@talk21.com' i.thomson@talk21.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2015 7:18 am Subject: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket Is there a gasket material other then cork available ? Bruce Doran-Veevers ------------ Bruce, if you can get a sheet of nitrile rubber, about 1/8 thick, you can cut yourself one which will last forever without compressing like cork ones do. Ian Thomson Notts uk

[Clive Sherriff]

Lee,   In general yes, but I don't think Nitrile would be suitable for the XPAG oil pan (sump) gasket due to the specific fitting proceedure needed at the rear to maintain oil integrity on the XPAG by sealing the gasket ends, and by having to use a specific thickness gasket material there to get correct sealing on the cork insert.   Clive = =========================================.

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] diecuts@aol.com [mg-tabc] [b]To:[/b] i.thomson@talk21.com ; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, November 08, 2015 5:46 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket   Ian,   It is true that the nitrile gaskets last a long time since they do not hold a 'set' and recover, but it is important to get the softer durometer such as 40 or 50 and at least 3/16 to 1/4 " thick since the two knurled nuts on top of the valve cover are all that's there to do the compressing.    Cork is soft and thick, which is why it works.   The nitrile must emulate the characteristics of the cork....1/8" thick at 60 duro (most common duro) would not work for a valve cover gasket very well, but would be 'swell' for an oil pan gasket which has flatter surfaces and more securing bolts.....   Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TA 2969 Tickford -----Original Message----- From: 'i.thomson@talk21.com' i.thomson@talk21.com [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2015 7:18 am Subject: [mg-tabc] Valve Cover Gasket Is there a gasket material other then cork available ? Bruce Doran-Veevers ------------ Bruce, if you can get a sheet of nitrile rubber, about 1/8 thick, you can cut yourself one which will last forever without compressing like cork ones do. Ian Thomson Notts uk