The Sacred Octagon

[Bob McKarney]

Ken - I left the NEMGTR last year for precisely this type of attitude. I really don't know why I stayed for the 25 or so years I belonged, since I learned so much from special people in groups such as TABC's and the TCMG, and the Vintage Group from S. Calif.

[KEN PORTER]

Geoff: I belong to the Octagon Car Club. Their magazine and spares availability is second to none. All T & MMM owners should be a member of this organization. Ken TC 4147 Geoff Love wrote:

> KEN PORTER wrote: > > > Sometimes I wonder why I > > remain a member of the NEMGTR. We, on this list, disseminate more information > > in one day then the Sacred Octagon does in a years worth of magazines. And > > ours is free, more timely, probably more accurate and with a little humor > > thrown in. > > Ken TC 4147 > > > > Have you considered joining the Octagon Car Club in the UK? You will receive > twelve magazines a year with a wealth of knowledge gladly and freely imparted by > enthusiasts for enthusiasts domiciled in a country with very little hang-ups > about being sued for liability. Remember, the NEMGTR is just a "register" > (whatever that means), the Octagon is a club. > > Geoff Love. > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[John T. Seim]

One of the things that I've never understood, is why we have to purchase the membership roster of the New England MG T Register. Shouldn't it be included in the membership costs? John Seim Irvine, CA TC 6590

[Dave Norris]

----- Original Message ----- From: "KEN PORTER" kporter@unix.asb.com> To: "Geoff Love" engconn@losch.net> Cc: "C Sherriff" 100070.740@compuserve.com>; "[unknown]" sculptart@aol.com>; "[unknown]" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] The Sacred Octagon > Geoff: > I belong to the Octagon Car Club. Their magazine and spares availability is second > to none. All T & MMM owners should be a member of this organization. > Ken TC 4147 > For joining information, and spares lists see www.mgoctagoncarclub.com Unfortunately it's a little out of date as I've been away for a few months - should have fully caught up by next week. Regards, Dave (OCC webmaster) Aberdeen TC9964

[R. Zwart]

Thanks for the plug for the [b]VINTAGE MG CLUB OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.[/b] [b] We are an active group of 200 members with events at least once a month besides victuals sessions and meetings. There is usually a Tech session on Saturdays, too. You have a T Series car and a problem, there are many people who don't claim to be experts, but they certainly are; who will be ready to help![/b] [b] Bob, the Librarian[/b] [b] Oh! , Yes, we have a Library with over 200 books, and a 'Jillion ' magazines........ Definition of 'Jillion': Too many to count and about half of them uncataloged. BUT! you are free to look through as long as you sort as you go. Join now, and come to our Christmas Party.[/b] Bob McKarney wrote:

Ken - I left the NEMGTR last year for precisely this type of attitude. I really don't know why I stayed for the 25 or so years I belonged, since I learned so much from special people in groups such as TABC's and the TCMG, and the Vintage Group from S. Calif.

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[R. Zwart]

John, my copy is generally brought to meetings as part of the Library and no one looks at it, so why send it to a thousand members who also won't look at it or they will complain that NEMGTR should cut costs and not send it to youall. BOB "John T. Seim" wrote:

One of the things that I've never understood, is why we have to purchase the membership roster of the New England MG T Register. Shouldn't it be included in the membership costs? John Seim Irvine, CA TC 6590

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Roger Furneaux]

hi Gene - as confirmed by others this CD was not proceeded with, but the excuse given at the time was that the company contracted to produce it underestimated the time it would have taken to scan all the issues. But why not collect the originals? I managed to get hold of almost every copy (although the very early ones are copies) and I live in England! All came from the States and did not cost a fortune (in some cases free - thanks again to Bill Hentzen). I am putting the index into electronic form, although the NEMGTR has probably already done this. ocTagonally Roger

>I was just looking at a back issue of the Sacred Octagon (April 99) and >noticed that they were advertising reserved copies of the Sacred Octagon >from 1964-1999 on a CD-ROM. Was this CD ever made? > >Gene Gillam > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[et1]

Here we go, bashing the NEMGTR again. I have it on extremely good authority that it was going to cost way more money to put that index together than they originally expected, so they dropped it. Obviously the only people who could have used it would have been Register members who had collected TSOs. The April 1989 issue has an index of all technical articles up to that date, and I believe that there was an update at some point after that. The reason that you have to pay for their Membership Directory, is because it is published by the Harris Publishing Company, who are the people who sell it. Heather and I have been members of the NEMGTR since 1985, and the reason that are we are still members is that their events have given us the opportunity to meet many wonderful M.G. people from all over the US and Canada. Join , don't join, or quit, it's up to you, but please QUIT GRIPING. The NEMGTR has done more for T-series owners in North America than any other organization, and I would suggest that if it weren't for them, this list probably wouldn't exist. If you are a member we hope to see you at the GOF at Wolfville Nova Scotia in July. Well that's my two cents anyway. Mark Evenchick

----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Norris davenorris@breathemail.net> To: kporter@unix.asb.com>; Geoff Love engconn@losch.net> Cc: C Sherriff 100070.740@compuserve.com>; [unknown] sculptart@aol.com>; [unknown] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] The Sacred Octagon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "KEN PORTER" kporter@unix.asb.com> > To: "Geoff Love" engconn@losch.net> > Cc: "C Sherriff" 100070.740@compuserve.com>; "[unknown]" > sculptart@aol.com>; "[unknown]" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 6:20 PM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] The Sacred Octagon > > > > Geoff: > > I belong to the Octagon Car Club. Their magazine and spares availability > is second > > to none. All T & MMM owners should be a member of this organization. > > Ken TC 4147 > > > For joining information, and spares lists see www.mgoctagoncarclub.com > Unfortunately it's a little out of date as I've been away for a few months - > should have fully caught up by next week. > > Regards, > Dave (OCC webmaster) > Aberdeen > TC9964 > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >

[DickShaler@aol.com]

This list "wouldn't exist" without NEMGTR? I'm sure many of those who manage, contribute to and enjoy this list would think quite differently. Perhaps some don't recognize the crushing reality that NEMGTR is quite provincial and has limited relevance to much of the worldwide MG community. Certainly, when I was living in California most of the content of the "Sacred Octagon" had little bearing on our interest or activities. Although it was nice to be able to support fellow octaphiles and to keep in touch with the eastern US scene. The technical material was always interesting and helpful if sometimes not quite "cutting edge". Please, let us take each offering for what it is and not try to place the Crown too carelessly. With Best Regards to All Richard Shaler

[DickShaler@aol.com]

This list "wouldn't exist" without NEMGTR? I'm sure many of those who manage, contribute to and enjoy this list would think quite differently. Perhaps some don't recognize the crushing reality that NEMGTR is quite provincial and has limited relevance to much of the worldwide MG community. Certainly, when I was living in California most of the content of the "Sacred Octagon" had little bearing on our interest or activities. Although it was nice to be able to support fellow octaphiles and to keep in touch with the eastern US scene. The technical material was always interesting and helpful if sometimes not quite "cutting edge". Please, let us take each offering for what it is and not try to place the Crown too carelessly. With Best Regards to All Richard Shaler