TA original specifications request

[craigsiler@comcast.net]

Fellow members: I am researching original specifications for my late model TA #2543 and am seeking help from informed members on the following items: Front wings (fenders): how do TA wings differ from TB/TC? According to M. Sherrell's TC's Forever , TC fenders do not fit a TA but the wings on my TA appear very similar to TC. Does anyone know if the fenders shown on the top left photo of page 36 in Clausager's book (Original MG T Series) are correct for a TA? The fenders on my TA look just like these, including the pointed tips and deep cutback towards the grill. Mirror on top of scuttle: Was this an available factory accessory? If so, what should it look like? Door locks & striker plates: Are they the same on a TA as on a TC? Slow running cable & choke cable: Are they the same on a TA as on a TC? Windshield wiper motor and wiper assembly: Are they the same model and assembly on a TA as on a TC? Brake master cylinder: Clausager (pg 20) states that the TA used a 7/8" Lockheed model #8768 while the TC used a Lockheed model #14923. Is there any visual or mechanical difference between the two models? Dipstick: Is there any difference between the MPJG oil dipstick and an early XPAG dipstick (such as logo or length). Does anyone have a photo reference of a correct MPJG dipstick? Radiator core: Per Clausager, a new type of radiator core was used for the TB with the top water hose from the engine outlet centrally located in the header tank. Does anyone know what the correct TA radiator core looks like. A photo reference would be great. Canvas engine tie straps: Is there any photo reference to the (2) canvas engine tie straps attached via rods to the front engine plate? My TA has the brackets correctly welded to the #2 crossmember on the frame but the strap set up is missing. Mechanical 8-day wind up clock: Is there any photo reference of this item(showing from and back of the unit). The face of the clock is supposed to be integral to the tach face. I have an electric clock in my TA which must be from a TC. Saxe Blue exterior paint color: Is there any known vendor where I could get a sample of Saxe Blue paint so I could compare it to the body color of my TA. The exterior color (paint appears as a very dark blue) and interior trim ( I would describe interior as " dark oxblood red") of my TA are exactly the colors and interior trim of the TA shown in Clausager: pages 8, 22, & 34. I am wondering if Clausager car is painted Saxe Blue. I assume that a prior owner of my car used this book when choosing his exterior paint and interior trim. If any members can shed some light on these points of originality I would be very grateful. You may contact me at: craigsiler@comcast.net or (503) 551-1442 (cell) or (503) 391-9935 (home) Thank you, Craig Siler TA 2543 / MPJG 2803 Salem, OR [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[1939mgtb]

Well, as someone who searched and searched for TB wings......here's the scoop: Early TA's have a fold in the bottom of the inner front wing that is a rust trap, and a small bit of extra steel in an area behind the wheel. Late ('38 1/2 approx) TA wings are the same as the TB. There are three (!) wings for the TC. They differ in the depth and shape of the cutout, the shape of the top of the wing when viewed longitudinally from the front, and the shape of the leading edge. If you fit TC wings to the TA, you will have to drill holes, too....and the running boards don't fit well, either. Windshield wiper motor is different. The shape of the cover is without the little angle, with a more 90 degree raised area. The switch and parking arm are different...smaller, with a more delicate post-modern sort of shape. The TC switch is more block-like. The cover is different from the TB, too! The TB has the windup clock with the integral face as well. I have a photo of mine if you like. As to the Saxe Blue.......good luck!! The ones around now probably DON'T match the original, and no one really knows what any of the colors REALLY looked like now! Fading, sun, weather, etc...... Ray "argent saoudien illimit , fanatiques islamistes Occidentalis s, tats de support de terroriste, technologie nucl aire de prolif ration. Un jour elle toute vient ensemble et l dispara t le voisinage."

----- Original Message ----- From: craigsiler@comcast.net> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] TA original specifications request > Fellow members: > > I am researching original specifications for my late model TA #2543 and am > seeking help from informed members on the following items: > > Front wings (fenders): how do TA wings differ from TB/TC? According to M. > Sherrell's TC's Forever , TC fenders do not fit a TA but the wings on my > TA appear very similar to TC. Does anyone know if the fenders shown on the > top left photo of page 36 in Clausager's book (Original MG T Series) are > correct for a TA? The fenders on my TA look just like these, including > the pointed tips and deep cutback towards the grill. > Mirror on top of scuttle: Was this an available factory accessory? If so, > what should it look like? > Door locks & striker plates: Are they the same on a TA as on a TC? > Slow running cable & choke cable: Are they the same on a TA as on a TC? > Windshield wiper motor and wiper assembly: Are they the same model and > assembly on a TA as on a TC? > Brake master cylinder: Clausager (pg 20) states that the TA used a 7/8" > Lockheed model #8768 while the TC used a Lockheed model #14923. Is there > any visual or mechanical difference between the two models? > Dipstick: Is there any difference between the MPJG oil dipstick and an > early XPAG dipstick (such as logo or length). Does anyone have a photo > reference of a correct MPJG dipstick? > Radiator core: Per Clausager, a new type of radiator core was used for > the TB with the top water hose from the engine outlet centrally located in > the header tank. Does anyone know what the correct TA radiator core looks > like. A photo reference would be great. > Canvas engine tie straps: Is there any photo reference to the (2) canvas > engine tie straps attached via rods to the front engine plate? My TA has > the brackets correctly welded to the #2 crossmember on the frame but the > strap set up is missing. > Mechanical 8-day wind up clock: Is there any photo reference of this > item(showing from and back of the unit). The face of the clock is > supposed to be integral to the tach face. I have an electric clock in my > TA which must be from a TC. > Saxe Blue exterior paint color: Is there any known vendor where I could > get a sample of Saxe Blue paint so I could compare it to the body color of > my TA. The exterior color (paint appears as a very dark blue) and > interior trim ( I would describe interior as " dark oxblood red") of my TA > are exactly the colors and interior trim of the TA shown in Clausager: > pages 8, 22, & 34. I am wondering if Clausager car is painted Saxe Blue. > I assume that a prior owner of my car used this book when choosing his > exterior paint and interior trim. > > If any members can shed some light on these points of originality I would > be very grateful. You may contact me at: > craigsiler@comcast.net > or (503) 551-1442 (cell) > or (503) 391-9935 (home) > > Thank you, > Craig Siler > TA 2543 / MPJG 2803 > Salem, OR > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Mick Conde]

Craig - Just had a call from a fellow not a TABC groupie and he said he saw a 'pork pie' TA tail lite on EBAY but could not remember where. You might want to try a store called 'rare brit bits' , they seem to have some prerry nice 'stuff' . mick craigsiler@comcast.net wrote: Fellow members: I am researching original specifications for my late model TA #2543 and am seeking help from informed members on the following items: Front wings (fenders): how do TA wings differ from TB/TC? According to M. Sherrell's TC's Forever , TC fenders do not fit a TA but the wings on my TA appear very similar to TC. Does anyone know if the fenders shown on the top left photo of page 36 in Clausager's book (Original MG T Series) are correct for a TA? The fenders on my TA look just like these, including the pointed tips and deep cutback towards the grill. Mirror on top of scuttle: Was this an available factory accessory? If so, what should it look like? Door locks & striker plates: Are they the same on a TA as on a TC? Slow running cable & choke cable: Are they the same on a TA as on a TC? Windshield wiper motor and wiper assembly: Are they the same model and assembly on a TA as on a TC? Brake master cylinder: Clausager (pg 20) states that the TA used a 7/8" Lockheed model #8768 while the TC used a Lockheed model #14923. Is there any visual or mechanical difference between the two models? Dipstick: Is there any difference between the MPJG oil dipstick and an early XPAG dipstick (such as logo or length). Does anyone have a photo reference of a correct MPJG dipstick? Radiator core: Per Clausager, a new type of radiator core was used for the TB with the top water hose from the engine outlet centrally located in the header tank. Does anyone know what the correct TA radiator core looks like. A photo reference would be great. Canvas engine tie straps: Is there any photo reference to the (2) canvas engine tie straps attached via rods to the front engine plate? My TA has the brackets correctly welded to the #2 crossmember on the frame but the strap set up is missing. Mechanical 8-day wind up clock: Is there any photo reference of this item(showing from and back of the unit). The face of the clock is supposed to be integral to the tach face. I have an electric clock in my TA which must be from a TC. Saxe Blue exterior paint color: Is there any known vendor where I could get a sample of Saxe Blue paint so I could compare it to the body color of my TA. The exterior color (paint appears as a very dark blue) and interior trim ( I would describe interior as " dark oxblood red") of my TA are exactly the colors and interior trim of the TA shown in Clausager: pages 8, 22, & 34. I am wondering if Clausager car is painted Saxe Blue. I assume that a prior owner of my car used this book when choosing his exterior paint and interior trim. If any members can shed some light on these points of originality I would be very grateful. You may contact me at: craigsiler@comcast.net or (503) 551-1442 (cell) or (503) 391-9935 (home) Thank you, Craig Siler TA 2543 / MPJG 2803 Salem, OR [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]