Bunch of TC questions

[Charles Hill]

I'm back to work on restoring TC 0857. I've finally figured out that the only way to get this car back on the road in my lifetime, given my abilities and finances is to go with cycle fenders and the vintage racer look. The reason is that the body tub is just enough off that nothing fits. It looks fine, but the fenders and running boards don't fit right. Worst of all, the windshield will not fit to the cowl anything close to right. As I see it, I have at least 3 alternatives. 1. Tear it apart and start all over again. (Not a good one - I don't have the ability to do the sheetmetal work and there is noone around here I have confidence in to do it. 2. Sell the tub to a racer for enough to cover part of the cost of a professionally done tub. 3. Build a vintage racer replica. I think that Number 3 is the way to go. 1st question: Where do I find a pair of cycle fenders? I see Abingdon Spares has a set advertized. I've already sent an email asking for particulars. 2nd question: If I run cycle fenders and no hood sides, how is the best way to hold the top of the hood down? Leather straps always look neat, but how would you mount them? 3rd question: My car came with some 16 inch wire wheels, so I suspect that it may have had some competition history that I know nothing about. They are mounted with 5.25X16 tires. Every reference I have mentions 6.00@16 tires. The rims measure to be about 3.25X16. That seems a bit narrow for 600X16 tires. Am I correct? 4th question: My rear fenders don't match. I suspect that the right rear fender is a TA fender. It's hard to describe, the profile is different. the fender part itself is rounder than the other 3 TC fenders I have. The tail is definitely flatter with sharper curves in the sides. Any ideas here? Regards, Charles Hill

[i.thomson@talk21.com]

Charles. All original body tubs are assymetrical and need careful fitting. Some are out by a huge amount making the fitment of parts from other cars or standard sized new parts difficult - often needing metal letting in or out. Early TA rear wings had no centre hump (bum? moulding? strip?) ridge down the middle. Ian T. ------------- cycle fenders and the vintage racer

>look. The reason is that the body tub is just enough off that nothing >fits. It looks fine, but the fenders and running boards don't fit >right. Worst of all, the windshield will not fit to the cowl anything >close to right.

My rear fenders don't match. I suspect that the right

>rear fender is a TA fender.

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[kwcp]

Charles: Check with Joe Curto for cycle fenders. He did have a couple of sets. Ken TC 4147 Charles Hill wrote:<<<,snip>>>>>

[Clive Sherriff]

Too True - I have original examples of the horizontal wood section of the body above the rear wing - only about 3 inches thick - that vary by over half an inch! Regards Clive ===========================================

----- Original Message ----- From: i.thomson@talk21.com> To: candahill@worldnet.att.net>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Bunch of TC questions > > Charles. All original body tubs are assymetrical and need careful fitting. Some are out by a huge amount making the fitment of parts from other cars or standard sized new parts difficult - often needing metal letting in or out. Early TA rear wings had no centre hump (bum? moulding? strip?) ridge down the middle. > > Ian T. > > ------------- > cycle fenders and the vintage racer > >look. The reason is that the body tub is just enough off that nothing > >fits. It looks fine, but the fenders and running boards don't fit > >right. Worst of all, the windshield will not fit to the cowl anything > >close to right. > My rear fenders don't match. I suspect that the right > >rear fender is a TA fender. > > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[candahill@worldnet.att.net]

I've had some encouraging responses both on and off the list. Just to clarify, my tub cowl is way off. I can't blame anyone but myself as I did all the woodwork myself. All the sheetmetal man did was repair the cowl to fit my wood frame. The left side is so far off that there is no way to get the windshield to fit. And it it is a TC windshield. In fact, I was using it on TC7387 while I was redoing that windshield. It is evidently the original windshield as the date code on the glass is 1946. This is for TC 0857. Regards, Charles Hill

[David Lodge]

Charles, Regarding your item number 4: I know whereof you speak! My rear fenders are both slightly different radii, one extremely beat up, so I thought I'd buy another, (used). Well, although the contours, centre rib and so on are a perfect match,but the radius is much smaller. I think it might be from a TA or perhaps earlier. I think it prudent to find out what car it's from before I offer it for sale. Regards, David Lodge

> I'm back to work on restoring TC 0857. I've finally figured out that the > only way to get this car back on the road in my lifetime, given my > abilities and finances is to go with cycle fenders and the vintage racer > look. The reason is that the body tub is just enough off that nothing > fits. It looks fine, but the fenders and running boards don't fit > right. Worst of all, the windshield will not fit to the cowl anything > close to right. As I see it, I have at least 3 alternatives. 1. Tear > it apart and start all over again. (Not a good one - I don't have the > ability to do the sheetmetal work and there is noone around here I have > confidence in to do it. 2. Sell the tub to a racer for enough to cover > part of the cost of a professionally done tub. 3. Build a vintage > racer replica. I think that Number 3 is the way to go. > > 1st question: Where do I find a pair of cycle fenders? I see Abingdon > Spares has a set advertized. I've already sent an email asking for > particulars. > > 2nd question: If I run cycle fenders and no hood sides, how is the best > way to hold the top of the hood down? Leather straps always look neat, > but how would you mount them? > > 3rd question: My car came with some 16 inch wire wheels, so I suspect > that it may have had some competition history that I know nothing about. > They are mounted with 5.25X16 tires. Every reference I have mentions > 6.00@16 tires. The rims measure to be about 3.25X16. That seems a bit > narrow for 600X16 tires. Am I correct? > > 4th question: My rear fenders don't match. I suspect that the right > rear fender is a TA fender. It's hard to describe, the profile is > different. the fender part itself is rounder than the other 3 TC > fenders I have. The tail is definitely flatter with sharper curves in > the sides. Any ideas here? > > Regards, > Charles Hill > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[joecurto@aol.com]

Charles Imcado MFG. in Floridia makes Bonnet Straps, he has a whole line of MG related stuff including gaiters for the springs. He is an old fashioned type of guy so no E mail. His name is George and his P/N is 352 669-3308. I suspect he can do custom work also. tell him I sent you. Joe Curto [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[David Lodge]

Charles, If it's any comfort, the off-side (left-hand) windscreen mounting bracket of 1704 was so off that I went to a metallurgist before I even considered staightening the thing out! Everything worked out but I think that the works just gorilla'd everything to fit. Regards, David Lodge

> I've had some encouraging responses both on and off the > list. Just to clarify, my tub cowl is way off. I can't > blame anyone but myself as I did all the woodwork > myself. All the sheetmetal man did was repair the cowl > to fit my wood frame. The left side is so far off that > there is no way to get the windshield to fit. And it it > is a TC windshield. In fact, I was using it on TC7387 > while I was redoing that windshield. It is evidently > the original windshield as the date code on the glass is > 1946. This is for TC 0857. > > Regards, > Charles Hill > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >