Woodscrews

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Frank O_ The Mountain
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Woodscrews

Post by Frank O_ The Mountain » Sat Mar 10, 2001 6:19 am

I know this question will drive Meister Badger nuts, but while we are on the subject of countersunk screws, one thing that has always caused me a problem is that UK countersunks, both wood and machine, have a smaller head diameter than US varieties. This becomes a problem when attaching things like door hinges that have a countersink already in them. I've searched for an explanation of this without success.....does anyone know why this is so? Is it 55 degrees vs. 60 degrees or some such? Terry

mrbadger
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Re: Woodscrews

Post by mrbadger » Sat Mar 10, 2001 6:48 am

Well, no, that is a problem that I have also encountered. If the screw head does not set far enough into the face of the door hinge, the hinge will bind on closing. The answer should be painfully obvious. Chuck yer little countersink bit into yer 3/8ths inch Black and Decker and make it fit. Who cares why it is so - make it work and move on. That's the Badger way. taterry@aol.com wrote:
> > I know this question will drive Meister Badger nuts, but while we are on the > subject of countersunk screws, one thing that has always caused me a problem > is that UK countersunks, both wood and machine, have a smaller head diameter > than US varieties. This becomes a problem when attaching things like door > hinges that have a countersink already in them. I've searched for an > explanation of this without success.....does anyone know why this is so? Is > it 55 degrees vs. 60 degrees or some such? > Terry > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

cameron@magma.ca
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Re: Woodscrews

Post by cameron@magma.ca » Sat Mar 10, 2001 7:48 am

British Standard screws are supposed to have a 90-92 degree countersink, American Standard is 80-82 degrees. Rolled thread screws generally have the same dimensional and geometric accuracy as jelly beans. Perhaps their quality contol is done by mr badger? David Cameron
>I know this question will drive Meister Badger nuts, but while we are on the >subject of countersunk screws, one thing that has always caused me a problem >is that UK countersunks, both wood and machine, have a smaller head diameter >than US varieties. This becomes a problem when attaching things like door >hinges that have a countersink already in them. I've searched for an >explanation of this without success.....does anyone know why this is so? Is >it 55 degrees vs. 60 degrees or some such? >Terry > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >

mrbadger
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Re: Woodscrews

Post by mrbadger » Sat Mar 10, 2001 8:49 am

Hey, It's not the space shuttle. It's just an old car. Let the degree of accuracy suit the situation. I suppose you could send off to Jolly ol' Blighty for the "proper" screws or the "proper" countersink (my upper lip is stiff and my nose is in the air) but I'd rather (or raaaaahthur) just neatly countersink the hole in the hinge, put the door on, and get on with it but hey - to each his own, right? And wot's all this about jelly beans then??? I just happen to LIKE jelly beans and I don't approve of people speaking rudely of jelly beans. cameron@magma.ca wrote:
> > British Standard screws are supposed to have a 90-92 degree countersink, > American Standard is 80-82 degrees. Rolled thread screws generally have the > same dimensional and geometric accuracy as jelly beans. Perhaps their > quality contol is done by mr badger? > > David Cameron > > >I know this question will drive Meister Badger nuts, but while we are on the > >subject of countersunk screws, one thing that has always caused me a problem > >is that UK countersunks, both wood and machine, have a smaller head diameter > >than US varieties. This becomes a problem when attaching things like door > >hinges that have a countersink already in them. I've searched for an > >explanation of this without success.....does anyone know why this is so? Is > >it 55 degrees vs. 60 degrees or some such? > >Terry > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Andrew Bradley
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Re: Woodscrews

Post by Andrew Bradley » Sat Mar 10, 2001 9:18 am

Did you know that the process to make a jelly bean takes over 7 hours? Good thing they make a whole lot of them at one time..... I doubt that most wood screws take 7 seconds to make. I have had several of the "premium" fasteners from a national hardware warehouse (that starts with "L", ends with "s" and has three other letters in between.) shear in two under the sheer stress of being used as screws. It is certainly worth the drive to get good quality fateners, whther from the marine, auto racing or cabinetry industry. Good stuff is out there, and you still get what you pay for. So pay for good stuff. At least we know that after the restoration, the cars will never see the kind of neglect that got us into this mess.... Cheeers....Andy

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