digest number 13682

[david zawadzki]

Hello folks, I have a old tank sitting around and it has a 3 tiny pin holes from the inside rust. I bought a PRO 15 kit to clean the rust and seal the tank. Do you think a tank sealer will cover the holes? Maybe I do two layers of the sealer just to be safe? I bet somebody here has to have some experience with some good 'ol rust. Thanks!!! -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 poisonpartyband.com

[Fred Hink]

I haven t used Pro 15 but have used Kreem. It sealed the tube inside a Goldwing gas tank that was used for the reserve. DOH! So, I d guess this tank sealer would seal your pin holes . http://www.kreem.com/fueltankliner.html Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: david zawadzki fordavidz@... [DSN_KLR650] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:55 AM To: KLR Group Subject: [DSN_KLR650] KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust Hello folks, I have a old tank sitting around and it has a 3 tiny pin holes from the inside rust. I bought a PRO 15 kit to clean the rust and seal the tank. Do you think a tank sealer will cover the holes? Maybe I do two layers of the sealer just to be safe? I bet somebody here has to have some experience with some good 'ol rust. Thanks!!! -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 poisonpartyband.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Martin Earl]

Hi David,I had a pin hole leak on a 'spot weld' while touring.I laid the bike on its side, sanded the spot plus a little extra, and then applied a thin JBQuick weld to the spot. The following morning, I applied another thin coat, over the previous repair out an additional 1/4 inch from the first application.Three years later, it was still a happy repair when the bike went to a new owner.I have no doubt that it would still be useful 10 years after the repair. The bad part about pin-holes, you had three, there are probably more about to expose themselves. m1.

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:53 AM, david zawadzki fordavidz@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hello folks, I have a old tank sitting around and it has a 3 tiny pin holes from the inside rust. I bought a PRO 15 kit to clean the rust and seal the tank. Do you think a tank sealer will cover the holes? Maybe I do two layers of the sealer just to be safe? I bet somebody here has to have some experience with some good 'ol rust. Thanks!!! -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 poisonpartyband.com

[Mike Frey]

I did it with a 1986 Kawasaki ZX1000r (originally my brother's bike). The ZX had a tank design very similar to the KLR - the fuel tap is above the lowest point in the tank. Water droplet build up had created several weeping holes along the lower welded seam. I sanded the area to find the soft spots and was dismayed to find some holes that I could push a pin through. Some spots were so thin that you could push the metal in and out with your finger. I figured that I had little to lose, so I took a nail set punch to create a small crater at each hole, filled the area with JB Weld, pushing it in so that it would "mushroom" out inside the tank. With a POR-15 kit, I then cleaned and sealed the tank from the inside. Two years later, when I traded the 1000 for my new 2004 KLR, it was all working fine. Despite never having much body work experience, I thought my work was pretty good. It took a very close eye to see where I had fixed it. As far as I know, that tank was still good 5+ years later. From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:54 AM To: KLR Group Subject: [DSN_KLR650] KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust Hello folks, I have a old tank sitting around and it has a 3 tiny pin holes from the inside rust. I bought a PRO 15 kit to clean the rust and seal the tank. Do you think a tank sealer will cover the holes? Maybe I do two layers of the sealer just to be safe? I bet somebody here has to have some experience with some good 'ol rust. Thanks!!! -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 poisonpartyband.com

[ccook82]

Thanks Fred.

On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 DSN_KLR650 DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [img]https://ec.yimg.com/ec?url=http%3A%2F%2Fl.yimg.com%2Fru%2Fstatic%2Fimages%2Fyg%2Fimg%2Femail%2Fnew_logo%2Flogo-groups-transparent-180x40.png&t=1571810744&sig=E8vSQPauimLwSwP8siV_uw--~E[/img] DualSportNews' KLR650 Discussion List Group 7 Messages Digest #13682 1.1 Re: This group going away? by botadley 1.2 Re: This group going away? by "Fred Hink" moabmc1 2a KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust by "david zawadzki" 2b Re: KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust by "Fred Hink" moabmc1 2c Re: KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust by "Martin Earl" revmaaatin 3a Alaska by "Dale Schedler" dgskcmo 3b Re: Alaska by vegaheim Messages 1.1 Re: This group going away? Wed May 23, 2018 8:30 am (PDT) . Posted by: botadley@...?subject=Re%3A%20This%20group%20going%20away%3F I feel this group is better solution to Facebook. I enjoy checking my yahoo mail and seeing posts. I have 09 KLR its been trouble free for 15k miles. One day I might experience problems and look forward to help from this group. Thank you for my 02 cents. Brad from Minnesota botadley@yahoo..com?subject=Re%3A%20This%20group%20going%20away%3F . DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20This%20group%20going%20away%3F . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (29) . Top ^ 1.2 Re: This group going away? Wed May 23, 2018 9:00 am (PDT) . Posted by: moabmc@...?subject=Re%3A%20This%20group%20going%20away%3F Thanks Brad, we re here for you . Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: botadley@... [DSN_KLR650] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:32 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com'>DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: This group going away?   I feel this group is better solution to Facebook. I enjoy checking my yahoo mail and seeing posts.  I have 09 KLR its been trouble free for 15k miles. One day I might experience problems and look forward to help from this group. Thank you for my 02 cents. Brad from Minnesota [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] moabmc@citlink..net?subject=Re%3A%20This%20group%20going%20away%3F . DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20This%20group%20going%20away%3F . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (29) . Top ^ 2a KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust Wed May 23, 2018 8:53 am (PDT) . Posted by: fordavidz@...?subject=Re%3A%20KLR%20650%20pinhole%20tank%20holes%20from%20rust Hello folks, I have a old tank sitting around and it has a 3 tiny pin holes from the inside rust. I bought a PRO 15 kit to clean the rust and seal the tank. Do you think a tank sealer will cover the holes? Maybe I do two layers of the sealer just to be safe? I bet somebody here has to have some experience with some good 'ol rust.. Thanks!!! -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 poisonpartyband. com fordavidz@...?subject=Re%3A%20KLR%20650%20pinhole%20tank%20holes%20from%20rust . DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20KLR%20650%20pinhole%20tank%20holes%20from%20rust . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (3) . Top ^ 2b Re: KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust Wed May 23, 2018 9:14 am (PDT) . Posted by: moabmc@...?subject=Re%3A%20KLR%20650%20pinhole%20tank%20holes%20from%20rust I haven t used Pro 15 but have used Kreem. It sealed the tube inside a Goldwing gas tank that was used for the reserve. DOH! So, I d guess this tank sealer would seal your pin holes . http://www.kreem.com/fueltankliner.html Fred www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: david zawadzki fordavidz@... [DSN_KLR650] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 9:55 AM To: KLR Group Subject: [DSN_KLR650] KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust   Hello folks, I have a old tank sitting around and it has a 3 tiny pin holes from the inside rust. I bought a PRO 15 kit to clean the rust and seal the tank. Do you think a tank sealer will cover the holes? Maybe I do two layers of the sealer just to be safe? I bet somebody here has to have some experience with some good 'ol rust.. Thanks!!! -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 poisonpartyband. com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] moabmc@citlink..net?subject=Re%3A%20KLR%20650%20pinhole%20tank%20holes%20from%20rust . DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20KLR%20650%20pinhole%20tank%20holes%20from%20rust . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (3) . Top ^ 2c Re: KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust Wed May 23, 2018 5:02 pm (PDT) . Posted by: mjearl4@...?subject=Re%3A%20KLR%20650%20pinhole%20tank%20holes%20from%20rust Hi David, I had a pin hole leak on a 'spot weld' while touring. I laid the bike on its side, sanded the spot plus a little extra, and then applied a thin JBQuick weld to the spot. The following morning, I applied another thin coat, over the previous repair out an additional 1/4 inch from the first application. Three years later, it was still a happy repair when the bike went to a new owner. I have no doubt that it would still be useful 10 years after the repair. The bad part about pin-holes, you had three, there are probably more about to expose themselves. m1. On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:53 AM, david zawadzki fordavidz@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com'>DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hello folks, > > I have a old tank sitting around and it has a 3 tiny pin holes from the > inside rust. I bought a PRO 15 kit to clean the rust and seal the tank.. Do > you think a tank sealer will cover the holes? Maybe I do two layers of the > sealer just to be safe? > > I bet somebody here has to have some experience with some good 'ol rust. > > Thanks!!! > > -- > David Z > mobile: 646-267-1109 > poisonpartyband. com > > > > mjearl4@...?subject=Re%3A%20KLR%20650%20pinhole%20tank%20holes%20from%20rust . DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20KLR%20650%20pinhole%20tank%20holes%20from%20rust . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (3) . Top ^ 3a Alaska Wed May 23, 2018 9:23 am (PDT) . Posted by: dschedler@...?subject=Re%3A%20Alaska My son has graciously asked me to join him on a Seattle to Deadhorse, Alaska (and back) trip in August. If you've done this journey, I'd appreciate any "watch out" or advice. Thanks dschedler@...?subject=Re%3A%20Alaska . DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Alaska . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (9) . Top ^ 3b Re: Alaska Wed May 23, 2018 2:03 pm (PDT) . Posted by: vegaheim@...?subject=Re%3A%20Alaska sometimes get cold around the second week in august. just be prepared for the ever change in the weather. vegaheim@yahoo..com?subject=Re%3A%20Alaska . DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Alaska . Reply via Web Post . All Messages (9) . 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[david zawadzki]

Thanks for all the replies! My tank was previously Kreemed and I tried to remove the old layer. Looks like I have to get it sandblasted in order to get the old layer out.Hopefully they will be gentle and not ruin the tank.... David

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Mike Frey wrote: I did it with a 1986 Kawasaki ZX1000r (originally my brother's bike). The ZX had a tank design very similar to the KLR - the fuel tap is above the lowest point in the tank. Water droplet build up had created several weeping holes along the lower welded seam. I sanded the area to find the soft spots and was dismayed to find some holes that I could push a pin through. Some spots were so thin that you could push the metal in and out with your finger. I figured that I had little to lose, so I took a nail set punch to create a small crater at each hole, filled the area with JB Weld, pushing it in so that it would "mushroom" out inside the tank. With a POR-15 kit, I then cleaned and sealed the tank from the inside. Two years later, when I traded the 1000 for my new 2004 KLR, it was all working fine. Despite never having much body work experience, I thought my work was pretty good. It took a very close eye to see where I had fixed it. As far as I know, that tank was still good 5+ years later. From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:54 AM To: KLR Group Subject: [DSN_KLR650] KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust Hello folks, I have a old tank sitting around and it has a 3 tiny pin holes from the inside rust. I bought a PRO 15 kit to clean the rust and seal the tank. Do you think a tank sealer will cover the holes? Maybe I do two layers of the sealer just to be safe? I bet somebody here has to have some experience with some good 'ol rust. Thanks!!! -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 poisonpartyband.com

-- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 poisonpartyband.com

[Fred Hink]

Trying to patch up something that has already been patched up doesn t sound like a good way to go.  Why not start with a used tank that is not leaking?  They can be had for as little as $50 on eBay.  Your tank prep and coating will cost you more than that.   Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com   [b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com">david zawadzki fordavidz@... [DSN_KLR650] [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, May 28, 2018 6:56 AM [b]To:[/b] mike21b@... [b]Cc:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com">KLR Group [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust    

Thanks for all the replies!   My tank was previously Kreemed and I tried to remove the old layer. Looks like I have to get it sandblasted in order to get the old layer out. Hopefully they will be gentle and not ruin the tank....   David   On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Mike Frey mike21b@...> wrote:

I did it with a 1986 Kawasaki ZX1000r (originally my brother's bike). The ZX had a tank design very similar to the KLR - the fuel tap is above the lowest point in the tank. Water droplet build up had created several weeping holes along the lower welded seam. I sanded the area to find the soft spots and was dismayed to find some holes that I could push a pin through. Some spots were so thin that you could push the metal in and out with your finger. I figured that I had little to lose, so I took a nail set punch to create a small crater at each hole, filled the area with JB Weld, pushing it in so that it would "mushroom" out inside the tank. With a POR-15 kit, I then cleaned and sealed the tank from the inside. Two years later, when I traded the 1000 for my new 2004 KLR, it was all working fine. Despite never having much body work experience, I thought my work was pretty good. It took a very close eye to see where I had fixed it. As far as I know, that tank was still good 5+ years later. From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@ yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:54 AM To: KLR Group Subject: [DSN_KLR650] KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust Hello folks, I have a old tank sitting around and it has a 3 tiny pin holes from the inside rust. I bought a PRO 15 kit to clean the rust and seal the tank. Do you think a tank sealer will cover the holes? Maybe I do two layers of the sealer just to be safe? I bet somebody here has to have some experience with some good 'ol rust. Thanks!!! -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 poisonpartyband.com

 -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 poisonpartyband.com

[John Biccum]

Another option is to use the tank rust issue to justify an aftermarket plastic tank. I'd replace the petcock at the same time with a fully-manual petcock (e.g a Pingel or an OEM fully-manual such as from a Raptor.) No more rust issues, no more OEM petcock diaphragm woes and over 7 gallon gasoline capacity. When OEM fails don't patch, upgrade! From my phone, please excuse typos

On May 28, 2018, at 07:11, "'Fred Hink' moabmc@... [DSN_KLR650]" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   Trying to patch up something that has already been patched up doesn t sound like a good way to go.  Why not start with a used tank that is not leaking?  They can be had for as little as $50 on eBay.  Your tank prep and coating will cost you more than that.   Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com   [b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com">david zawadzki fordavidz@... [DSN_KLR650] [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, May 28, 2018 6:56 AM [b]To:[/b] mike21b@... [b]Cc:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com">KLR Group [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust     Thanks for all the replies!   My tank was previously Kreemed and I tried to remove the old layer. Looks like I have to get it sandblasted in order to get the old layer out. Hopefully they will be gentle and not ruin the tank....   David   On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Mike Frey mike21b@...> wrote: I did it with a 1986 Kawasaki ZX1000r (originally my brother's bike). The ZX had a tank design very similar to the KLR - the fuel tap is above the lowest point in the tank. Water droplet build up had created several weeping holes along the lower welded seam. I sanded the area to find the soft spots and was dismayed to find some holes that I could push a pin through. Some spots were so thin that you could push the metal in and out with your finger. I figured that I had little to lose, so I took a nail set punch to create a small crater at each hole, filled the area with JB Weld, pushing it in so that it would "mushroom" out inside the tank. With a POR-15 kit, I then cleaned and sealed the tank from the inside. Two years later, when I traded the 1000 for my new 2004 KLR, it was all working fine. Despite never having much body work experience, I thought my work was pretty good. It took a very close eye to see where I had fixed it. As far as I know, that tank was still good 5+ years later. From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto: DSN_KLR650@ yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 11:54 AM To: KLR Group Subject: [DSN_KLR650] KLR 650 pinhole tank holes from rust Hello folks, I have a old tank sitting around and it has a 3 tiny pin holes from the inside rust. I bought a PRO 15 kit to clean the rust and seal the tank. Do you think a tank sealer will cover the holes? Maybe I do two layers of the sealer just to be safe? I bet somebody here has to have some experience with some good 'ol rust. Thanks!!! -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 poisonpartyband.com

  -- David Z mobile: 646-267-1109 poisonpartyband.com