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Fred Hink
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Post by Fred Hink » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:00 pm

My job brings me all sorts of different type of people into my shop.  Yesterday a guy from Germany was needing a tire and even though it was only 17 degrees when he started his trip to my shop he made it anyway.  We had a great conversation when he was here about all sorts of things.  Since he is a world traveler and has ridden many thousands of miles on all sorts of bikes, he had much to say.  He writes for Motorrad magazine and was on a tour around the US west when he found himself in Moab Utah.  He is a great photographer too.  Check out his website at:  http://www.dirkschaefer.info/en/news/ Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com

Martin Earl
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Post by Martin Earl » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:47 pm

List- This is a good point to mention fuel lines--I have replaced gas lines a couple of times in 90K KLR miles; I have found the BMW, metric sized, 'cloth covered' fuel lines (suggested by Jeff Saline) to be of the best quality/value as a KLR replacement fuel line.The aftermarket, vinyl stuff (I have bought) at the parts store is only good (from my experience) for ~1 year. I have some of the BMW fuel line in use for over 5 years without apparent degradation. While you are changing the fuel line, replace the petcock vacuum line as well; in my experience, there is nothing better than the OEM vacuum line. cough. unless you switch to a manual petcock or petcock block-off plate. m1.
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Horton Oliphant hortonhearsawho@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Yep, I agree also. After removing braces for the side car, the tank , and many other assorted parts I turned the carb, removed the float bowl and found some black stuff plugging the jets. Haven't got around to finishing the job but I may have to replace the gas line besides a good cleaning. The stuff I found doesn't look like varnish, cleaned right out of the main jet with cleaner and compressed air. It is almost like the inside of the gas line is breaking down and throwing off particles. Hey Norm, best wishes on future endeavors. Your voice will be missed. Alan Henderson A13 Minnesota On 12/6/2017 2:44 PM, Buddy Eckles buddyeckles@... [DSN_KLR650] wrote: Allen, I endorse Jeff and Martin's recommendations, and I add an ounce of StarTron to help neutralize the effects of ethynol. Get Outlook for Android [b]From:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Martin Earl mjearl4@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, December 6, 2017 11:50:14 AM [b]To:[/b] DSN KLR650; Horton Oliphant [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Bah! Hi Allen, It has been so long since you posted, I was beginning to think the 'elephantes ate your pig." In addition to all the advice previously suggested, if you have to go to a complete teardown and full carb soaking, many have had very good results using PineSol in a Ultra Sonic cleaner. The Pinesol is reported to be safe on internal O-rings, where other solvents may degrade them. I know a St. Louis BMW rider who did this to his Bing carbs/bike that sat for 20+ years and it worked like a champ. If my KLR carb 'fouled' it is what I would use. I would try this before removing the carb: In the short run, you may be able to rotate the carb counterclockwise, remove the fuel bowl and remove the jets from the R side of the bike. Remember you have to be very careful/remove the carb enricher, or at the very least, remove it from the handle bar before rotation of the carb. It is a good time to replace the fuel bowl screws with some cap-head screws (3mm I think). Another solution I have read is to fill the carb bowl with the Yamaha (Startron?) fuel treatment and let it soak overnight. Most likely though, you will have to use Jeff K's suggestion of cleaning the jets by hand. For all others that are not experiencing this fuel varnishing problem, this is your friendly reminder it is time to treat the fuel for winter time storage (overkill for some, shrug) with Seafoam @ 1oz/gal. Add the 6oz of Seafoam, for the 6gal KLR tank, add the fuel, and let it run long enough to completely wash through every fuel circuit. Additionally, after you have finally parked the bike, close the fuel valve, run the carb dry by running the bike until it dies (you could also just drain the carb).. After the bike dies/empties the fuel bowl; Push the enricher circuit to 'FULL" and restart the bike; it will start, and may run as long as 10 secs. This additional step will clear any residual fuel in the enricher circuit. During the winter/sleep/comatose sleep/ period of in-activity, I keep a bottle of Seafoam on the bike and re-treat the fuel/fillup every time I get lucky enough to convert stored fuel to smiles...as you never know if it is going to be 10 days or 140 days before I can ride again. Following this process, I have not had a fouled KLR jet (with fuel) since 2003...I did have a bug wing suck in the main jet, mostly likely through the carb vent system...I removed the bug wing/main jet by the procedure described above. Sadly though, converting gas to smiles is not very likely in the Dakota's once winter has started (which it has, a little late this year, but a blizzard on Monday, one today, yeah, yeah, winter has started.) Don't forget the battery tender as well; I personally don't like the idea of leaving batteries plugged in 'full-time', rather I do a topping charge with the battery tender every two weeks to full charge and then disconnect the battery. Rinse. Repeat 2x/month. Please report back how it went. m1. On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Horton Oliphant hortonhearsawho@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Never had this problem before but apparently let the bike sit too long and when I started it recently it would idle with the choke on but would die with the choke off and not take any throttle. I idled the bike around the block but it never cleared up. So I'm thinking plugged jets, torn diagram. I'm not a newcomer to working on my bike but would just like to be reminded of solutions. I have some Seafoam that I planned to put in the carb after I drain the old gas. Of course I can check the diaphragm also, any other suggestions? 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Martin Earl
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Post by Martin Earl » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:56 am

That was an amazing web site. m1.
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:00 PM, 'Fred Hink' moabmc@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: My job brings me all sorts of different type of people into my shop. Yesterday a guy from Germany was needing a tire and even though it was only 17 degrees when he started his trip to my shop he made it anyway. We had a great conversation when he was here about all sorts of things. Since he is a world traveler and has ridden many thousands of miles on all sorts of bikes, he had much to say. He writes for Motorrad magazine and was on a tour around the US west when he found himself in Moab Utah. He is a great photographer too. Check out his website at: http://www.dirkschaefer.info/e n/news/ Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsport s.com

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