re[4]: [dsn_klr650] motion pro oil filter magnet

[Norm Keller]

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HEY Norm Topic said above, "Win an Argument". I always like a good friendly DEBATE,  If you can make me think more (DEEPER) on a topic, I get more educated. If you can show me, (what how why etc) and Prove me wrong, OR Just another way, GREAT. I WIN AGAIN BY LEARNING MORE. It has been said, I hate being wrong. They were/are RIGHT, What kind of fool Wants to be wrong? I do enjoy (LOVE) being PROVEN wrong, Because then, I now know what was right, making  me right in the future. Just think where Science would be if, everyone stopped with one opinion, or un-proven "facts". I still waiting for Jeff S. to jump in on the "Magent debate", I have great respect for his KNOWLEDGE. (& opinions) On Saturday, November 1, 2014 10:56 PM, "'Norm Keller' normkel32@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   I can't imagine any downside of removing materials from the oil, regardless of whether it's done by the filter or some other means. That's why I've been sticking the hard drive magnets onto spin on filters. The only particles which should be present inside the filter would be those of   If the filter bypass is open, oil flow might not be significant in the end cap area. I think some industrial equipment used magnets as part of oil filtration so an old friend my have some thoughts. I'm still bothered by the problem of pulling particles any significant distance from viscous moving oil. No problem I can see if one were to stick some magnets onto the filter end cap but think the media and glue mostly separate the end cap from oil by quite some distance on the inside. Mine needs an oil change soon so will see if some magnets can be stuck in there, just for fun. I'll want to make certain that the magnets can't move or they may wear more material away and make things worse. The KLR does shake and rattle.   Let's give it a shot and seem how much stuff sticks onto the magnets. If little to nothing, then that's that, but if a bunch of stuff shows up that might indicate something worth following up.     < Hey Norm Fact: When ever I have changed oil, and there is a Magnetic plug, there is always some metal deposit (dust like) stuck to the Magnet. It may be super fine, But it still STEEL power rubbing on Alum, in some areas. If the ring or small mag, fits on and INTO the end for the filter, it may trap the Micron STEEL particles INSIDE the filter, stopping them from further passing around the engine.  Risk?  Just theory>

[zoot]

60+ K miles on Selah, and the impression was that I needed to start looking for her successor. Goal was a black 2007 KLR with under 5K miles. OK, sometimes you have to give a little on your demands. Settled for red, soon to be pink, but priced for a song and with only 322 miles on her, ooooohhh, that'll do. Brought her home, named her Purr, and now start the farkle shopping and transfer. Still has the front forks in shipping mode and the 500 mile break in to complete. Can't believe it.