Wilsons Sandbox

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] normkel32@... [DSN_KLR650] [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:54 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: 2008 KLR HELP!  

(snip) FWIW, I'd replace the idle pilot unless you have accurately "jet drilled" to insure that the passage is open to intended diameter and length. Keep in mind that there are two popular ways to reduce flow through a jet: 1) make the hole smaller, and; 2) make the hole longer.    

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] normkel32@... [DSN_KLR650] [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:54 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: 2008 KLR HELP!   (snip) FWIW, I'd replace the idle pilot unless you have accurately "jet drilled" to insure that the passage is open to intended diameter and length. Keep in mind that there are two popular ways to reduce flow through a jet: 1) make the hole smaller, and; 2) make the hole longer.    

  Gentlemen, I am about to embark on a test ride, but it would seem that the issue is fixed right now. I read a few threads on carb cleaning, but I had never seen the suggestion to actually blast air through the carb itself and that seems to have solved my problem! I hope it is resolved even though I will feel like a complete idiot if that was the only issue.  I will keep you guys posted after the ride, but i really appreciate all the help and quick replies. Brenton  On Sunday, June 1, 2014 11:59 AM, "'eddie' edgyver40@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   To add to Norms' cautions, some pilot jet holes are not round, either. They are sort of star-shaped. Drilling them out or using too aggressive a cleaning wire can damage them. -eddie ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] normkel32@... [DSN_KLR650] [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:54 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: 2008 KLR HELP!   (snip) FWIW, I'd replace the idle pilot unless you have accurately "jet drilled" to insure that the passage is open to intended diameter and length. Keep in mind that there are two popular ways to reduce flow through a jet: 1) make the hole smaller, and; 2) make the hole longer.    

  Gentlemen, I am about to embark on a test ride, but it would seem that the issue is fixed right now. I read a few threads on carb cleaning, but I had never seen the suggestion to actually blast air through the carb itself and that seems to have solved my problem! I hope it is resolved even though I will feel like a complete idiot if that was the only issue.  I will keep you guys posted after the ride, but i really appreciate all the help and quick replies. Brenton  On Sunday, June 1, 2014 11:59 AM, "'eddie' edgyver40@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   To add to Norms' cautions, some pilot jet holes are not round, either. They are sort of star-shaped. Drilling them out or using too aggressive a cleaning wire can damage them. -eddie ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] normkel32@... [DSN_KLR650] [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:54 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: 2008 KLR HELP!   (snip) FWIW, I'd replace the idle pilot unless you have accurately "jet drilled" to insure that the passage is open to intended diameter and length. Keep in mind that there are two popular ways to reduce flow through a jet: 1) make the hole smaller, and; 2) make the hole longer.    

Yes it did get a sea foam early on in the process, i just forgot to put it in my write up. It actually has a full mix of sea foam in the tank at the moment. So I just got back from my ride, and for the first 10 minutes it ran absolutely perfect; but it quickly went right back to where it was, it dies as soon as it hits 2K Rpms. It will pop start if I am on a hill, but even then I have to twist the throttle hard and I am getting no power until it revs back up. I took the entire carb apart and blasted every hole with high pressure air and carb cleaner, it is strange that it ran fine for a few minutes than quit again. When it cools down I will take the carb off and see if I can find any clogged areas from the fuel tank possibly. Any other ideas? Brenton On Sunday, June 1, 2014 5:11 PM, "mark ward nomad59@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com wrote: BASICS, you said the bike was EXPERIENCED ("used"), So no telling how long it set. Did you use some Sea Foam to clean the carb etc.? (I'm surprised we haven't had the annual 3 week sea foam debate.....Oops, I 'm thread. LOL) Some of us use it every spring or 2-3 of times a year, just as PMS. (Navy: PMS = Preventive Maintenance System) On Sunday, June 1, 2014 7:55 PM, "bob row haronyquistx31@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com wrote: Gentlemen, I am about to embark on a test ride, but it would seem that the issue is fixed right now. I read a few threads on carb cleaning, but I had never seen the suggestion to actually blast air through the carb itself and that seems to have solved my problem! I hope it is resolved even though I will feel like a complete idiot if that was the only issue. I will keep you guys posted after the ride, but i really appreciate all the help and quick replies. Brenton On Sunday, June 1, 2014 11:59 AM, "'eddie' edgyver40@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com wrote: To add to Norms' cautions, some pilot jet holes are not round, either. They are sort of star-shaped. Drilling them out or using too aggressive a cleaning wire can damage them. -eddie ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] normkel32@...%20[DSN_KLR650] [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:54 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: 2008 KLR HELP! (snip) FWIW, I'd replace the idle pilot unless you have accurately "jet drilled" to insure that the passage is open to intended diameter and length. Keep in mind that there are two popular ways to reduce flow through a jet: 1) make the hole smaller, and; 2) make the hole longer.

  Perhaps the slide isn't rising. That could be caused by a diaphragm leak or a plugged lifting hole. Robert P Wichert P.Eng. Inc. LEED AP, HERS II, CEA +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 On 6/1/2014 6:04 PM, bob row haronyquistx31@... [DSN_KLR650] wrote:   Yes it did get a sea foam early on in the process, i just forgot to put it in my write up. It actually has a full mix of sea foam in the tank at the moment.   So I just got back from my ride, and for the first 10 minutes it ran absolutely perfect; but it quickly went right back to where it was, it dies as soon as it hits 2K Rpms. It will pop start if I am on a hill, but even then I have to twist the throttle hard and I am getting no power until it revs back up.  I took the entire carb apart and blasted every hole with high pressure air and carb cleaner, it is strange that it ran fine for a few minutes than quit again. When it cools down I will take the carb off and see if I can find any clogged areas from the fuel tank possibly.  Any other ideas? Brenton    On Sunday, June 1, 2014 5:11 PM, "mark ward nomad59@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com wrote:   BASICS, you said the bike was EXPERIENCED ("used"), So no telling how long it set. Did you use some Sea Foam to clean the carb etc.?   (I'm surprised we haven't had the annual  3 week sea foam debate.....Oops, I 'm thread. LOL) Some of us use it every spring or 2-3 of times a year, just as PMS.  (Navy: PMS = Preventive Maintenance System) On Sunday, June 1, 2014 7:55 PM, "bob row haronyquistx31@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com wrote:   Gentlemen, I am about to embark on a test ride, but it would seem that the issue is fixed right now. I read a few threads on carb cleaning, but I had never seen the suggestion to actually blast air through the carb itself and that seems to have solved my problem! I hope it is resolved even though I will feel like a complete idiot if that was the only issue.  I will keep you guys posted after the ride, but i really appreciate all the help and quick replies. Brenton  On Sunday, June 1, 2014 11:59 AM, "'eddie' edgyver40@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com wrote:   To add to Norms' cautions, some pilot jet holes are not round, either. They are sort of star-shaped. Drilling them out or using too aggressive a cleaning wire can damage them. -eddie ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] normkel32@...%20[DSN_KLR650] [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:54 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: 2008 KLR HELP!   (snip) FWIW, I'd replace the idle pilot unless you have accurately "jet drilled" to insure that the passage is open to intended diameter and length. Keep in mind that there are two popular ways to reduce flow through a jet: 1) make the hole smaller, and; 2) make the hole longer.    

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] haronyquistx31@... [DSN_KLR650] [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com ; edgyver40@... ; nomad59@... [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, June 02, 2014 11:04 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: 2008 KLR HELP!   Yes it did get a sea foam early on in the process, i just forgot to put it in my write up. It actually has a full mix of sea foam in the tank at the moment.   So I just got back from my ride, and for the first 10 minutes it ran absolutely perfect; but it quickly went right back to where it was, it dies as soon as it hits 2K Rpms. It will pop start if I am on a hill, but even then I have to twist the throttle hard and I am getting no power until it revs back up.  I took the entire carb apart and blasted every hole with high pressure air and carb cleaner, it is strange that it ran fine for a few minutes than quit again. When it cools down I will take the carb off and see if I can find any clogged areas from the fuel tank possibly.  Any other ideas? Brenton    On Sunday, June 1, 2014 5:11 PM, "mark ward nomad59@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   BASICS, you said the bike was EXPERIENCED ("used"), So no telling how long it set. Did you use some Sea Foam to clean the carb etc.?   (I'm surprised we haven't had the annual  3 week sea foam debate.....Oops, I 'm thread. LOL) Some of us use it every spring or 2-3 of times a year, just as PMS.  (Navy: PMS = Preventive Maintenance System) On Sunday, June 1, 2014 7:55 PM, "bob row haronyquistx31@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   Gentlemen, I am about to embark on a test ride, but it would seem that the issue is fixed right now. I read a few threads on carb cleaning, but I had never seen the suggestion to actually blast air through the carb itself and that seems to have solved my problem! I hope it is resolved even though I will feel like a complete idiot if that was the only issue.  I will keep you guys posted after the ride, but i really appreciate all the help and quick replies. Brenton  On Sunday, June 1, 2014 11:59 AM, "'eddie' edgyver40@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   To add to Norms' cautions, some pilot jet holes are not round, either. They are sort of star-shaped. Drilling them out or using too aggressive a cleaning wire can damage them. -eddie ----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] normkel32@... [DSN_KLR650] [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Sunday, June 01, 2014 12:54 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Re: 2008 KLR HELP!   (snip) FWIW, I'd replace the idle pilot unless you have accurately "jet drilled" to insure that the passage is open to intended diameter and length. Keep in mind that there are two popular ways to reduce flow through a jet: 1) make the hole smaller, and; 2) make the hole longer.