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i need help
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:36 pm
by Norm Keller
Just finished a GEn1 rear suspension service today. Dog bone and swing arm bearings were near perfect but the through bolts were seized for the swing arm and the big through bolt for the dog bone. Not unusual at all but with some 12 pound hammer and brass drift, they came out. Not as bad as some which required drilling.
Some suggestions:
These bolts usually seize to the bearing sleeves but can also seize into the case or structure. Turn the nut to just flush with the end and use a big brass drift and hammer in the 10 pound+ range as a lighter hammer typically just rivets things over. After a try at driving, check to see if the bolt as moved at all. If has moved, squirt in some penetrating oil or ATF and drive it back. After knocking it in and out a few times, try turning the bolt. If it turns easily, it is seized into the beating sleeve(s). If it does not turn, it is seized into the surrounding structure- particularly common for the big dog bone bolt.
If it does not turn, or turns reluctantly, and is through aluminum (such as the big dog bone bolt) don't rotate the bolt more than one flat in order to loosen., just turn back and forth. Turn, then drift back and forth, then repeat. Don't become too ambitious as over stressing the aluminum engine case will be bad news.
Forcing the bolt to turn within a seized engine case hole can displace material and further jam the bolt. The effects can be concentrated into a small area and result in breaking out a portion of the engine case structure. Small arcs can help to loosen but not too much rotation.
Usually best with these to lubricate and knock back and forth. This is essential with seized bearing sleeves.
The KLR through bolts can withstand some quite heavy hammering, IME, unlike some other bikes.
As others have said, important to limit force to a reasonable degree and to coat with a good waterproof chassis grease.
Good luck with it. Welcome to bring it by if that helps.
craig vetter's klr
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:55 am
by Fred Hink
How many of you know that the designer of the Vetter Windjammer and many other notable accomplishments over the years also rides a KLR?
Craig Vetter has made an aluminum fairing for his KLR because, "I want to be able to change the headlight at WalMart for $8.00" I want easy maintenance. I want utility. I want rugged durability. I want a fairing designed to take on the Alcan highway. And, I want it to keep me warm and dry.
http://www.craigvetter.com/pages/vetter_fairings/Alcan-Fairing/Alcan-Fairing%20-P1.html Sounds like Mr. Vetter is a perfect fit for the KLR design. Craig and his brother have been in contact with me about using the front Superbike fenders that I sell on their KLR project. Craig is all about maximizing fuel mileage and this fender should help but it looks like from their photos they are not using the fenders I sold them yet or maybe these are earlier photos. Lots of good interesting reading here....
http://www.craigvetter.com/index.html
Fred
http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
craig vetter's klr
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:27 am
by ron criswell
I suppose it works well. Not very good looking (to me).
Criswell
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 9, 2014, at 7:55 AM, "Fred Hink" wrote:
How many of you know that the designer of the Vetter Windjammer and many other notable accomplishments over the years also rides a KLR?
Craig Vetter has made an aluminum fairing for his KLR because, "I want to be able to change the headlight at WalMart for $8.00" I want easy maintenance. I want utility. I want rugged durability. I want a fairing designed to take on the Alcan highway. And, I want it to keep me warm and dry.
http://www.craigvetter.com/pages/vetter_fairings/Alcan-Fairing/Alcan-Fairing%20-P1.html Sounds like Mr. Vetter is a perfect fit for the KLR design. Craig and his brother have been in contact with me about using the front Superbike fenders that I sell on their KLR project. Craig is all about maximizing fuel mileage and this fender should help but it looks like from their photos they are not using the fenders I sold them yet or maybe these are earlier photos. Lots of good interesting reading here....
http://www.craigvetter.com/index.html
Fred
http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
craig vetter's klr
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:33 am
by Fred Hink
Kind of like the KLR, eh? [b]From:[/b] roncriswell2@... [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:27 AM [b]To:[/b] moabmc@... [b]Cc:[/b]
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Craig Vetter's KLR I suppose it works well. Not very good looking (to me). Criswell
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 9, 2014, at 7:55 AM, "Fred Hink" wrote:
How many of you know that the designer of the Vetter Windjammer and many other notable accomplishments over the years also rides a KLR?
Craig Vetter has made an aluminum fairing for his KLR because, "I want to be able to change the headlight at WalMart for $8.00" I want easy maintenance. I want utility. I want rugged durability. I want a fairing designed to take on the Alcan highway. And, I want it to keep me warm and dry.
http://www.craigvetter.com/pages/vetter_fairings/Alcan-Fairing/Alcan-Fairing%20-P1.html Sounds like Mr. Vetter is a perfect fit for the KLR design. Craig and his brother have been in contact with me about using the front Superbike fenders that I sell on their KLR project. Craig is all about maximizing fuel mileage and this fender should help but it looks like from their photos they are not using the fenders I sold them yet or maybe these are earlier photos. Lots of good interesting reading here....
http://www.craigvetter.com/index.html
Fred
http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
craig vetter's klr
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:59 pm
by ron criswell
Hey my KLR is a show bike and a chic magnet.
Criswell
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:33 AM, "Fred Hink" wrote:
Kind of like the KLR, eh? [b]From:[/b] roncriswell2@... [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:27 AM [b]To:[/b] moabmc@... [b]Cc:[/b]
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Craig Vetter's KLR I suppose it works well. Not very good looking (to me). Criswell
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 9, 2014, at 7:55 AM, "Fred Hink" wrote:
How many of you know that the designer of the Vetter Windjammer and many other notable accomplishments over the years also rides a KLR?
Craig Vetter has made an aluminum fairing for his KLR because, "I want to be able to change the headlight at WalMart for $8.00" I want easy maintenance. I want utility. I want rugged durability. I want a fairing designed to take on the Alcan highway. And, I want it to keep me warm and dry.
http://www.craigvetter.com/pages/vetter_fairings/Alcan-Fairing/Alcan-Fairing%20-P1.html Sounds like Mr. Vetter is a perfect fit for the KLR design. Craig and his brother have been in contact with me about using the front Superbike fenders that I sell on their KLR project. Craig is all about maximizing fuel mileage and this fender should help but it looks like from their photos they are not using the fenders I sold them yet or maybe these are earlier photos. Lots of good interesting reading here....
http://www.craigvetter.com/index.html
Fred
http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
craig vetter's klr
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:08 pm
by SniperOne
I was thinking George Jetson when I saw it. SniperOne [b]From:[/b]
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Ron Criswell
[b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:28 AM
[b]To:[/b] Fred Hink
[b]Cc:[/b] KLR List
[b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Craig Vetter's KLR I suppose it works well. Not very good looking (to me). Criswell
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 9, 2014, at 7:55 AM, "Fred Hink" wrote:
How many of you know that the designer of the Vetter Windjammer and many other notable accomplishments over the years also rides a KLR?
Craig Vetter has made an aluminum fairing for his KLR because, "[i]I want to be able to change the headlight at WalMart for $8.00"[/i]
I want easy maintenance. I want utility. I want rugged durability.
I want a fairing designed to take on the Alcan highway.
And, I want it to keep me warm and dry.
http://www.craigvetter.com/pages/vetter_fairings/Alcan-Fairing/Alcan-Fairing%20-P1.html Sounds like Mr. Vetter is a perfect fit for the KLR design. Craig and his brother have been in contact with me about using the front Superbike fenders that I sell on their KLR project. Craig is all about maximizing fuel mileage and this fender should help but it looks like from their photos they are not using the fenders I sold them yet or maybe these are earlier photos. Lots of good interesting reading here....
http://www.craigvetter.com/index.html
Fred
http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
craig vetter's klr
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:40 pm
by mark ward
YA Mines a Chick magnet also, A STRONG one at that.
Now If I could just reverse the Polarity to draw them in, instead of PUSHING them away. LOL
[b]From:[/b] Ron Criswell
[b]To:[/b] Fred Hink
[b]Cc:[/b] KLR List DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com>
[b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:59 PM
[b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Craig Vetter's KLR
Hey my KLR is a show bike and a chic magnet.
Criswell
Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:33 AM, "Fred Hink" wrote: Kind of like the KLR, eh? [b]From:[/b] roncriswell2@... [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:27 AM [b]To:[/b] moabmc@... [b]Cc:[/b]
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Craig Vetter's KLR I suppose it works well. Not very good looking (to me). Criswell
Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2014, at 7:55 AM, "Fred Hink" wrote: How many of you know that the designer of the Vetter Windjammer and many other notable accomplishments over the years also rides a KLR?
Craig Vetter has made an aluminum fairing for his KLR because, "[i]I want to be able to change the headlight at WalMart for $8.00"[/i] I want easy maintenance. I want utility. I want rugged durability. I want a fairing designed to take on the Alcan highway. And, I want it to keep me warm and dry.
http://www.craigvetter.com/pages/vetter_fairings/Alcan-Fairing/Alcan-Fairing%20-P1.html Sounds like Mr. Vetter is a perfect fit for the KLR design. Craig and his brother have been in contact with me about using the front Superbike fenders that I sell on their KLR project. Craig is all about maximizing fuel mileage and this fender should help but it looks like from their photos they are not using the fenders I sold them yet or maybe these are earlier photos. Lots of good interesting reading here....
http://www.craigvetter.com/index.html Fred
http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com/
craig vetter's klr
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:41 pm
by Fred Hink
Sure thing Fabio... Fred
http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
[b]From:[/b] roncriswell2@... [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, April 09, 2014 4:59 PM [b]To:[/b] moabmc@... [b]Cc:[/b]
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Craig Vetter's KLR Hey my KLR is a show bike and a chic magnet. Criswell
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:33 AM, "Fred Hink" wrote:
Kind of like the KLR, eh? [b]From:[/b] roncriswell2@... [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:27 AM [b]To:[/b] moabmc@... [b]Cc:[/b]
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Craig Vetter's KLR I suppose it works well. Not very good looking (to me). Criswell
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 9, 2014, at 7:55 AM, "Fred Hink" wrote:
How many of you know that the designer of the Vetter Windjammer and many other notable accomplishments over the years also rides a KLR?
Craig Vetter has made an aluminum fairing for his KLR because, "I want to be able to change the headlight at WalMart for $8.00" I want easy maintenance. I want utility. I want rugged durability. I want a fairing designed to take on the Alcan highway. And, I want it to keep me warm and dry.
http://www.craigvetter.com/pages/vetter_fairings/Alcan-Fairing/Alcan-Fairing%20-P1.html Sounds like Mr. Vetter is a perfect fit for the KLR design. Craig and his brother have been in contact with me about using the front Superbike fenders that I sell on their KLR project. Craig is all about maximizing fuel mileage and this fender should help but it looks like from their photos they are not using the fenders I sold them yet or maybe these are earlier photos. Lots of good interesting reading here....
http://www.craigvetter.com/index.html
Fred
http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
craig vetter's klr
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:36 pm
by RobertWichert
Some propellers would be good.
Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================
On 4/9/2014 4:08 PM, SniperOne wrote:
I was thinking George Jetson when I saw it. SniperOne [b]From:[/b]
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] [b]On Behalf Of [/b]Ron Criswell
[b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, April 09, 2014 8:28 AM
[b]To:[/b] Fred Hink
[b]Cc:[/b] KLR List
[b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] Craig Vetter's KLR I suppose it works well. Not very good looking (to me). Criswell
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 9, 2014, at 7:55 AM, "Fred Hink" wrote:
How many of you know that the designer of the Vetter Windjammer and many other notable accomplishments over the years also rides a KLR?
Craig Vetter has made an aluminum fairing for his KLR because, "[i]I want to be able to change the headlight at WalMart for $8.00"[/i]
I want easy maintenance. I want utility. I want rugged durability.
I want a fairing designed to take on the Alcan highway.
And, I want it to keep me warm and dry.
http://www.craigvetter.com/pages/vetter_fairings/Alcan-Fairing/Alcan-Fairing%20-P1.html Sounds like Mr. Vetter is a perfect fit for the KLR design. Craig and his brother have been in contact with me about using the front Superbike fenders that I sell on their KLR project. Craig is all about maximizing fuel mileage and this fender should help but it looks like from their photos they are not using the fenders I sold them yet or maybe these are earlier photos. Lots of good interesting reading here....
http://www.craigvetter.com/index.html
Fred
http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
craig vetter's klr
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:07 am
by bigburlybaldbeardedbiker
Criswell wrote:
>Hey my KLR is a show bike and a chic magnet.
Magnets repel too, right?
Paul Streeter