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Be sure and put the filler cap back on before you start it (heh). I did something stupid probably twice in a row on my Concours about a year ago. I forgot there are two drain plugs on my 2001 Concours plus the filter bolt cap thingy. Two changes I just drained the front drain and replaced the filter also thinking I had drained all the oil. I couldn't figure out why I could not see the oil level through the site glass after putting in the required amount. I was way overfilling it. Duh. Not a good thing to do. It did seem to run sluggish but didn't seem to hurt anything. I and some of my cohorts is why I don't like buying used bikes (heh). It is a good idea to read your manual again sometimes on such a mundane thing as changing oil.  Criswell Sent from my iPad

On Nov 28, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Martin Earl wrote:

  LEG PULL switch--ON. There is a lot of personally (dare I say, sometimes silly or at least amusing) opinions about oil, oil changes, etc.  yawn.We have recently read/suggested how to get the oil out without getting it on you. shrug. I wouldn't think I had changed the oil 'properly' if I did not get some on me, and some on the floor...hopefully no-more-than 2.5L.  I would say the list has pretty much stated/proofed/substantiated that we should change the oil and change it often is better than a long interval etc. What I do know, is this:1.  The oil will run out of the bike even if there is no oil pan directly under the plug.2.  The oil will run out of the bike even if the pan WAS under the plug and now is no longer under the plug. 3.  Changing the oil with a stout wind present, the oil may/may-not go into the catch basin even if it is directly under the plug.4 .that if you don't put the 'plug' back in, the bike WILL take 2.5L of oil and it WILL NOT show on the sight gauge. 5.  If you have drained the oil, and the catch container is small, if you experience #4, most likely it will look like #1 even though the pan is under the bike. Perhaps the keeper of the FAQ should make an appropriate notations of #1-5.... Blessing to all, far and near- m.  who notes that there are days for Turkeys other than the 4th Thursday of Nov. (see bio listed as #1-5) On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Bogdan Swider wrote: Hi old friends and new, Been away for a while trust all is well. Talked to a Harley guy yesterday. He was adamant that the custom of taking the bike for a ride, to warm up the engine, before an oil change was now obsolete. He's convinced that the contemporary brews have superior detergent properties nasty stuff no longer gathers in places in the lube system. Any thoughts ? Bogdan, who is stuck in his ways and therefore will take his klr on a ride before an oil change Wednesday despite the cold weather.

Pam,  works for carb installs (rubber boots) as well.  Keeps my eggs from sticking in the morning too.   [b]From:[/b] nomad59@... [b]Sent:[/b] Friday, November 29, 2013 10:12 AM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Tire changing tips. & Recycle tip.    

Hey YA'LL   I just watched another Tire changing Video, and again, They use "Mounting paste" (lube) to mount the tires.   I have yet to see anyone use lube to REMOVE IT, OR ON the Tire IRONS.   After breaking the bead, 1st thing I do is wipe in some lube INSIDE THE RIM AND ON THE IRON ENDS.   You're pulling DRY RUBBER off the DRY RIM. HAS SAME RESISTANCE ISSUE AS GOING ON.   ALSO When remounting the tire, the tire iron goes between the NOW lubed rim OR lubed inner tire Bead. BUT the outer edge of the bead is often still dry, and the DRY Iron has the fight the bead as it "SLIPS" (ya slips LOL) over the rim. I carry dish soap in my tool kit, water is often hand, THEN clean up, with the same small bottle of soap.   RECYCLE: If you know someone (or YOU) that drinks those little 5hr. drinks, those ARE TOUGH little bottles, I have NOT had one leak YET.   PS, NOTE: MOST people I have talked to, (including my self) think you are to drink those little bottles in ONE STEP. WRONG! for 5 hours (FIVE NOT 3) you are supposed to drink them in 2 stages a few hours apart.   WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. LOL

 Dawn dishwashing cut about 75% with water for many years and many tire changes , both on KLR type tire and Sporttouring type tire. Believe me, I'd rather change tires on the KLR types ( DRs/DRZ , etc. ) 10 times before once on my Bandit 1250s.  What not to do with KLR or any tire. Use simple green straight because your too lazy to walk the 30 feet necessary to get the Dawn solution to lube a tire and rim and used the Simple Green cause it was 3 feet away from the tire machine. Results were about a year later, the rubber and alu rim had fused together in many places. Took awhile with a wire wheel on a 4" grinder to remove said material. Tire was an Avon Gripster and this happened about 8 years ago. Guess who don't use Simple Green on tires no mo.  

---In dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Pam,  works for carb installs (rubber boots) as well.  Keeps my eggs from sticking in the morning too.   [b]From:[/b] nomad59@... [b]Sent:[/b] Friday, November 29, 2013 10:12 AM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Tire changing tips. & Recycle tip.     Hey YA'LL   I just watched another Tire changing Video, and again, They use "Mounting paste" (lube) to mount the tires.   I have yet to see anyone use lube to REMOVE IT, OR ON the Tire IRONS.   After breaking the bead, 1st thing I do is wipe in some lube INSIDE THE RIM AND ON THE IRON ENDS.   You're pulling DRY RUBBER off the DRY RIM. HAS SAME RESISTANCE ISSUE AS GOING ON.   ALSO When remounting the tire, the tire iron goes between the NOW lubed rim OR lubed inner tire Bead. BUT the outer edge of the bead is often still dry, and the DRY Iron has the fight the bead as it "SLIPS" (ya slips LOL) over the rim. I carry dish soap in my tool kit, water is often hand, THEN clean up, with the same small bottle of soap.   RECYCLE: If you know someone (or YOU) that drinks those little 5hr. drinks, those ARE TOUGH little bottles, I have NOT had one leak YET.   PS, NOTE: MOST people I have talked to, (including my self) think you are to drink those little bottles in ONE STEP. WRONG! for 5 hours (FIVE NOT 3) you are supposed to drink them in 2 stages a few hours apart.   WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. LOL

Rubbing alcohol. Makes everything rubber slick as grease for a minute or so, then leaves things clean and dry. Tires, carb boots, electrical connections, anything rubber with a force fit will slide easily. Well, most things. There are places NOT to use this, but I'll leave that up to your discretion. Vini,Vidi,Refici! On Friday, November 29, 2013 3:57 PM, "achesley43@..." wrote:    Dawn dishwashing cut about 75% with water for many years and many tire changes , both on KLR type tire and Sporttouring type tire. Believe me, I'd rather change tires on the KLR types ( DRs/DRZ , etc. ) 10 times before once on my Bandit 1250s. What not to do with KLR or any tire. Use simple green straight because your too lazy to walk the 30 feet necessary to get the Dawn solution to lube a tire and rim and used the Simple Green cause it was 3 feet away from the tire machine. Results were about a year later, the rubber and alu rim had fused together in many places. Took awhile with a wire wheel on a 4" grinder to remove said material. Tire was an Avon Gripster and this happened about 8 years ago. Guess who don't use Simple Green on tires no mo.   ---In dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Pam,  works for carb installs (rubber boots) as well.  Keeps my eggs from sticking in the morning too.   [b]From:[/b] nomad59@... [b]Sent:[/b] Friday, November 29, 2013 10:12 AM [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Tire changing tips. & Recycle tip.     Hey YA'LL   I just watched another Tire changing Video, and again, They use "Mounting paste" (lube) to mount the tires.   I have yet to see anyone use lube to REMOVE IT, OR ON the Tire IRONS.   After breaking the bead, 1st thing I do is wipe in some lube INSIDE THE RIM AND ON THE IRON ENDS.   You're pulling DRY RUBBER off the DRY RIM. HAS SAME RESISTANCE ISSUE AS GOING ON.   ALSO When remounting the tire, the tire iron goes between the NOW lubed rim OR lubed inner tire Bead. BUT the outer edge of the bead is often still dry, and the DRY Iron has the fight the bead as it "SLIPS" (ya slips LOL) over the rim. I carry dish soap in my tool kit, water is often hand, THEN clean up, with the same small bottle of soap.   RECYCLE: If you know someone (or YOU) that drinks those little 5hr. drinks, those ARE TOUGH little bottles, I have NOT had one leak YET.   PS, NOTE: MOST people I have talked to, (including my self) think you are to drink those little bottles in ONE STEP. WRONG! for 5 hours (FIVE NOT 3) you are supposed to drink them in 2 stages a few hours apart.   WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. 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