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[dsn_klr650] fork oil mussing
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:05 pm
by John Biccum
Typical rationales for changing fork oil include viscosity breakdown from
shearing and dilution and/or contamination from iffy seals.
I have always changed fork oil at the same time I was upgrading or replacing
worn-out components inside the forks so I have never needed much rationale.
When I dumped factory oil to fit Progressive springs and RaceTech gold
valves I seriously wondered if there was some long-decayed animal part in
there that made the oil smell soooo bad. The oil reeked of offal and was a
greasy gray.
The second fork oil change (or was it the third?) was part of a
comprehensive fork rebuild (seals, both sets of bushings) and that oil
looked a lot better and smelled orders of magnitude (odors of magnitude? )
better than the OEM oil. There was minute bits of shiny metal in the old
oil, likely bits of the plated coating worn off or flaked off of the
worn-out bushings. So I don't think we can always assume zero
metal-on-metal contact inside the forks.
-----Original Message-----
From:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bogdan Swider
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 08:17
To: Bogdan Swider; List KLR
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Fork Oil Mussing
Also....one old Harley guy - of the pre-yuppster generation -opinioned that
you never have to change fork oil. It's like the oil in your shock; there's
no metal to metal contact. What's the rational on changing fork oil ?
Bogdan
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horizontal klr - question
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:12 pm
by Eddie
Last Saturday, here in New Orleans, we had a weather system that came through with rain and high winds; and my KLR wound up horizontal - it fell over onto its right side - and was on its side for some 10 hours before I found it tipped over. The only damage that I can see is a scratch to the brush guard (an after market metal one that I added).
So, my questions are, "I have a slosh battery, but since it was on its right side, hopefully the battery juice did not flow out?" Tomorrow, I am going to change the oil and check the battery, anything else that I ought to consider?
BTW, I think that a culprit in my KLR's tipping was the (aftermarket) centerstand. I love my centerstand, but I doubt my KLR would have tipped if it were on the side stand.
Eddie
P.S. I did restart the KLR, and it seemed fine.
horizontal klr - question
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:32 pm
by revmaaatin
Eddie,
Yes, the wind will blow the bike over while on the center stand.
I have the T-shirt.
If the bike is on a center stand, it will need to be pointed into the wind.That will help
However,
I have had my bike blown over while on its sidestand as well with a direct cross wind from the right.
It is more easily blown over if it is loaded like a rented mule.
I have a T-shirt for that as well.
I like park on the lee side of a building as a wind break; however, duing frontal passage, the wind will change 180 degrees.
You can also use a car for a windbreak, however, don't park so close it will fall on anything valuable.
If your bike had a bike cover on it during the storm, I would advise removing it next time; installed, you have just graduated from a large sail (uncovered, top heavy bike) to a HUGE sail when the bike has a bike cover installed.
Yeah, I have a T shirt for that as well.
revmaaatin. so many T-shirts, more to come for sure.
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "eddie" wrote:
>
> Last Saturday, here in New Orleans, we had a weather system that came through with rain and high winds; and my KLR wound up horizontal - it fell over onto its right side - and was on its side for some 10 hours before I found it tipped over. The only damage that I can see is a scratch to the brush guard (an after market metal one that I added).
>
> So, my questions are, "I have a slosh battery, but since it was on its right side, hopefully the battery juice did not flow out?" Tomorrow, I am going to change the oil and check the battery, anything else that I ought to consider?
>
> BTW, I think that a culprit in my KLR's tipping was the (aftermarket) centerstand. I love my centerstand, but I doubt my KLR would have tipped if it were on the side stand.
>
> Eddie
>
> P.S. I did restart the KLR, and it seemed fine.
>
horizontal klr - question
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:18 pm
by Eddie
Rav, and all..............
Bingo on the cover (read Sail). I had a cover on my KLR. To fully understand your advice on how to tack the KLR into a headwind, I am going to take an introductory sailing class. But, you are right on point about the cover, I think that had a lot to do with the fall-over. Lucky for me, there are not too many gail force (or Hurricane) winds around her in New Orelans, oh wait, forget that last part. I have a tee shirt for that, It reads "FEMA" - "Fix Everything My Ass!"
Eddie
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "revmaaatin" wrote:
>
> Eddie,
> Yes, the wind will blow the bike over while on the center stand.
> I have the T-shirt.
> If the bike is on a center stand, it will need to be pointed into the wind.That will help
> However,
> I have had my bike blown over while on its sidestand as well with a direct cross wind from the right.
> It is more easily blown over if it is loaded like a rented mule.
> I have a T-shirt for that as well.
>
> I like park on the lee side of a building as a wind break; however, duing frontal passage, the wind will change 180 degrees.
> You can also use a car for a windbreak, however, don't park so close it will fall on anything valuable.
>
> If your bike had a bike cover on it during the storm, I would advise removing it next time; installed, you have just graduated from a large sail (uncovered, top heavy bike) to a HUGE sail when the bike has a bike cover installed.
> Yeah, I have a T shirt for that as well.
>
> revmaaatin. so many T-shirts, more to come for sure.
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "eddie" wrote:
> >
> > Last Saturday, here in New Orleans, we had a weather system that came through with rain and high winds; and my KLR wound up horizontal - it fell over onto its right side - and was on its side for some 10 hours before I found it tipped over. The only damage that I can see is a scratch to the brush guard (an after market metal one that I added).
> >
> > So, my questions are, "I have a slosh battery, but since it was on its right side, hopefully the battery juice did not flow out?" Tomorrow, I am going to change the oil and check the battery, anything else that I ought to consider?
> >
> > BTW, I think that a culprit in my KLR's tipping was the (aftermarket) centerstand. I love my centerstand, but I doubt my KLR would have tipped if it were on the side stand.
> >
> > Eddie
> >
> > P.S. I did restart the KLR, and it seemed fine.
> >
>
horizontal klr - question
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:24 pm
by RobertWichert
The bike had a nice nap. No problem. Sleep tight.
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On 4/16/2013 4:32 PM, revmaaatin wrote:
>
> Eddie,
> Yes, the wind will blow the bike over while on the center stand.
> I have the T-shirt.
> If the bike is on a center stand, it will need to be pointed into the
> wind.That will help
> However,
> I have had my bike blown over while on its sidestand as well with a
> direct cross wind from the right.
> It is more easily blown over if it is loaded like a rented mule.
> I have a T-shirt for that as well.
>
> I like park on the lee side of a building as a wind break; however,
> duing frontal passage, the wind will change 180 degrees.
> You can also use a car for a windbreak, however, don't park so close
> it will fall on anything valuable.
>
> If your bike had a bike cover on it during the storm, I would advise
> removing it next time; installed, you have just graduated from a large
> sail (uncovered, top heavy bike) to a HUGE sail when the bike has a
> bike cover installed.
> Yeah, I have a T shirt for that as well.
>
> revmaaatin. so many T-shirts, more to come for sure.
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
> , "eddie" wrote:
> >
> > Last Saturday, here in New Orleans, we had a weather system that
> came through with rain and high winds; and my KLR wound up horizontal
> - it fell over onto its right side - and was on its side for some 10
> hours before I found it tipped over. The only damage that I can see is
> a scratch to the brush guard (an after market metal one that I added).
> >
> > So, my questions are, "I have a slosh battery, but since it was on
> its right side, hopefully the battery juice did not flow out?"
> Tomorrow, I am going to change the oil and check the battery, anything
> else that I ought to consider?
> >
> > BTW, I think that a culprit in my KLR's tipping was the
> (aftermarket) centerstand. I love my centerstand, but I doubt my KLR
> would have tipped if it were on the side stand.
> >
> > Eddie
> >
> > P.S. I did restart the KLR, and it seemed fine.
> >
>
>
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