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Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:00 am**

The chart is now available in the Files section. Thanks, Lee. There is a little more info there, but here's the meat of it: Battery Voltage %Charge 12.63 100 12.54 90 12.45 80 12.36 70 12.27 60 12.18 50 12.09 40 12.00 30 11.91 20 11.82 0

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:25 am**

I seem to remember reports earlier on this list of the pre-07 models KLR running higher voltages, like around 16v. This was thought to happen because of the lower amp output of the charging systems. Does anyone else remember this or has anyone checked the voltage on their charging system and how would that fit in with this file? Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: Jud Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:00 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart The chart is now available in the Files section. Thanks, Lee. There is a little more info there, but here's the meat of it: Battery Voltage %Charge 12.63 100 12.54 90 12.45 80 12.36 70 12.27 60 12.18 50 12.09 40 12.00 30 11.91 20 11.82 0 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:18 am**

Fred, My 2003 KLR charges at a bit over 14 volts. The times I recall hearing about a charging system at 16 volts the reg/rec was bad or the signal wire to it was showing excessive resistance. That caused the voltage to build as it didn't sense the need to shut it down. The chart is only for battery condition and not charging system condition. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 <><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:24:59 -0700 "Fred Hink" writes:

> I seem to remember reports earlier on this list of the pre-07 models > KLR running higher voltages, like around 16v. This was thought to > happen because of the lower amp output of the charging systems. > Does anyone else remember this or has anyone checked the voltage on > their charging system and how would that fit in with this file? > > Fred > http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > > From: Jud > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:00 AM > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart > > > The chart is now available in the Files section. Thanks, Lee. There > is a little more info there, but here's the meat of it: > > Battery > Voltage %Charge > 12.63 100 > 12.54 90 > 12.45 80 > 12.36 70 > 12.27 60 > 12.18 50 > 12.09 40 > 12.00 30 > 11.91 20 > 11.82 0 > > >

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Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:41 pm**

"Typical" float charging voltage for 12V batteries is "around" 13.8V. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Float_voltage Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 1/12/2013 9:12 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Fred, > > My 2003 KLR charges at a bit over 14 volts. The times I recall hearing > about a charging system at 16 volts the reg/rec was bad or the signal > wire to it was showing excessive resistance. That caused the voltage to > build as it didn't sense the need to shut it down. > > The chart is only for battery condition and not charging system > condition. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 > <><><><><><><> > <><><><><><><> > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 07:24:59 -0700 "Fred Hink" moabmc@... > > > writes: > > I seem to remember reports earlier on this list of the pre-07 models > > KLR running higher voltages, like around 16v. This was thought to > > happen because of the lower amp output of the charging systems. > > Does anyone else remember this or has anyone checked the voltage on > > their charging system and how would that fit in with this file? > > > > Fred > > http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > > > > > From: Jud > > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:00 AM > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart > > > > > > The chart is now available in the Files section. Thanks, Lee. There > > is a little more info there, but here's the meat of it: > > > > Battery > > Voltage %Charge > > 12.63 100 > > 12.54 90 > > 12.45 80 > > 12.36 70 > > 12.27 60 > > 12.18 50 > > 12.09 40 > > 12.00 30 > > 11.91 20 > > 11.82 0 > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Woman is 53 But Looks 25 > Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50f19a8a8f4051a8a3e57st04vuc > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:44 pm**

Probably not, but some jacks do come with a pin that you can insert so the pressure is relieved from the hydraulics. Ryan Phoenix, AZ snowcrash007 wrote:

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Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:09 pm**

I think that those voltages are for when the battery is at its current full charge condition. Maybe after an overnight on the charger or after an hour or more ride. Instead of "voltage to %charge" should be possibly be "fully charged voltage to % of rated capacity". Which makes me feel better about my current battery it hasn't had more than 12.4 for the last couple of years. But recently my friend's battery after an hour's ride was showing 11.8 and would not crank his bike. YMMV but if I run the AGM battery--on either the '99 I used to own or the 08 I have--to 11.1 (due to stupidity/abuse on my part) it would start the bike in "typical" conditions. With NAPA 15w50 synthetic in it even. For more fun typical charging voltage for both the '08(65k miles) and '99(32k miles) were right around 14v. Measured with Garmin 276 (attached at the battery terminals, neat display field on the map screen) that I had checked with a digital multimeters. But if I turn my '08 high beam on (stock wiring) it goes _up_ to 14.5, _if_ the battery is fully charged when I do it. If I had run the voltage down to that stupid level it wasn't going to see 14v until more than an hour of running. I typically run it down to high 11's when I am at a campground for a few days and use it to charge the notebook computer and such. It would be charging the battery at ~12v and slowly go up to 14v. I get a little anal after a few push starts when I wasn't paying as much attention as I should have to what I was doing. Hiking days in a state or national parks are murder on my battery's. That and leaving the dang GPS on the bike in the on setting, oops. One of these days I will install a relay to prevent that. Nope to lazy. For what little it is worth, Mike Nasca -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hink Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:25 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; Jud Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart I seem to remember reports earlier on this list of the pre-07 models KLR running higher voltages, like around 16v. This was thought to happen because of the lower amp output of the charging systems. Does anyone else remember this or has anyone checked the voltage on their charging system and how would that fit in with this file? Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: Jud Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:00 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart The chart is now available in the Files section. Thanks, Lee. There is a little more info there, but here's the meat of it: Battery Voltage %Charge 12.63 100 12.54 90 12.45 80 12.36 70 12.27 60 12.18 50 12.09 40 12.00 30 11.91 20 11.82 0 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Members Map https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212558560286766214899.0004d0fa9f1732283 bb6f&msa=0&ll=38.522384,-109.489746&spn=6.831383,9.624023Yahoo! Groups Links

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:18 pm**

I installed a relay, 1st day I got my klr, But now think I will either take it out, OR Install a bypass, switch. I get to a location , like a Rustic campgrounds, or just in the wood's etc, and realize my Phone is about dead, and can NOT charge it. So I think I will at least install a Bypass, for that kind of thing. ($3.+-)

--- On Sat, 1/12/13, none wrote: From: none Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 12, 2013, 11:09 PM I think that those voltages are for when the battery is at its current full charge condition. Maybe after an overnight on the charger or after an hour or more ride. Instead of "voltage to %charge" should be possibly be "fully charged voltage to % of rated capacity". Which makes me feel better about my current battery it hasn't had more than 12.4 for the last couple of years. But recently my friend's battery after an hour's ride was showing 11.8 and would not crank his bike. YMMV but if I run the AGM battery--on either the '99 I used to own or the 08 I have--to 11.1 (due to stupidity/abuse on my part) it would start the bike in "typical" conditions. With NAPA 15w50 synthetic in it even. For more fun typical charging voltage for both the '08(65k miles) and '99(32k miles) were right around 14v. Measured with Garmin 276 (attached at the battery terminals, neat display field on the map screen) that I had checked with a digital multimeters. But if I turn my '08 high beam on (stock wiring) it goes _up_ to 14.5, _if_ the battery is fully charged when I do it. If I had run the voltage down to that stupid level it wasn't going to see 14v until more than an hour of running. I typically run it down to high 11's when I am at a campground for a few days and use it to charge the notebook computer and such. It would be charging the battery at ~12v and slowly go up to 14v. I get a little anal after a few push starts when I wasn't paying as much attention as I should have to what I was doing. Hiking days in a state or national parks are murder on my battery's. That and leaving the dang GPS on the bike in the on setting, oops. One of these days I will install a relay to prevent that. Nope to lazy. For what little it is worth, Mike Nasca -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hink Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:25 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; Jud Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart I seem to remember reports earlier on this list of the pre-07 models KLR running higher voltages, like around 16v. This was thought to happen because of the lower amp output of the charging systems. Does anyone else remember this or has anyone checked the voltage on their charging system and how would that fit in with this file? Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: Jud Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:00 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart The chart is now available in the Files section. Thanks, Lee. There is a little more info there, but here's the meat of it: Battery Voltage %Charge 12.63 100 12.54 90 12.45 80 12.36 70 12.27 60 12.18 50 12.09 40 12.00 30 11.91 20 11.82 0 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Members Map https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212558560286766214899.0004d0fa9f1732283 bb6f&msa=0&ll=38.522384,-109.489746&spn=6.831383,9.624023Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:24 pm**

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 15:18:07 -0800 (PST) mark ward writes:

> I installed a relay, 1st day I got my klr, But now think I will > either take it out, OR Install a bypass, switch. > > I get to a location , like a Rustic campgrounds, or just in the > wood's etc, and realize my Phone is about dead, and can NOT charge > it. > > So I think I will at least install a Bypass, for that kind of thing. > ($3.+-)

<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><><> Mark, Maybe consider adding a second accessory socket that is hot all the time. Use the switched socket you already have for stuff you want off when the key is off. Use the always hot socket for something like a GPS that you don't want to keep turning on or resetting when at fuel stops or lunch etc. Also use the always hot socket for charging the battery and your phone. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . ____________________________________________________________ Odd food FIGHTS blood pressure Powerful superfood from the sea that fights aging http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50f1f0737b28f70733a61st04vuc

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 5:39 pm**

OK Now you're just getting to simple..............................I just slapped the side of my head for not thinking of that. I carry a splitter so when I need to charge the Phone, AA batteries (in tank bag) etc., and not very happy when I for get the splitter. ADDING a second outlet........EUREKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--- On Sat, 1/12/13, Jeff Saline wrote: From: Jeff Saline Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart To: nomad59@... Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, kconcour@... Date: Saturday, January 12, 2013, 11:22 PM On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 15:18:07 -0800 (PST) mark ward nomad59@...> writes: > I installed a relay, 1st day I got my klr, But now think I will > either take it out, OR Install a bypass, switch. > > I get to a location , like a Rustic campgrounds, or just in the > wood's etc, and realize my Phone is about dead, and can NOT charge > it. > > So I think I will at least install a Bypass, for that kind of thing. > ($3.+-) <><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><><> Mark, Maybe consider adding a second accessory socket that is hot all the time. Use the switched socket you already have for stuff you want off when the key is off. Use the always hot socket for something like a GPS that you don't want to keep turning on or resetting when at fuel stops or lunch etc. Also use the always hot socket for charging the battery and your phone. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . __________________________________________________________ Odd food FIGHTS blood pressure Powerful superfood from the sea that fights aging http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50f1f0737b28f70733a61st04vuc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:02 pm**

I have my auxiliary ports (cig lighter and dedicated dual USB port) off of a relay, but added a switch to bypass the relay to maintain power on the ports when traveling to charge cell phone/MP3 player at night PLUS keep my GPS hot continually so that it will record a track continuously. I usually don't activate it unless I am on an extended trip. I use a single LED voltage monitor: http://www.ebay.com/itm/12v-LED-Battery-Monitor-voltage-and-charge-indicator-/150479033981?pt=UK_Sound_Vision_Other&hash=item23093fd67d Which I like very much. -----Original Message----- From: mark ward Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 4:18 PM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com ; none Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart I installed a relay, 1st day I got my klr, But now think I will either take it out, OR Install a bypass, switch. I get to a location , like a Rustic campgrounds, or just in the wood's etc, and realize my Phone is about dead, and can NOT charge it. So I think I will at least install a Bypass, for that kind of thing. ($3.+-)

--- On Sat, 1/12/13, none wrote: From: none Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 12, 2013, 11:09 PM I think that those voltages are for when the battery is at its current full charge condition. Maybe after an overnight on the charger or after an hour or more ride. Instead of "voltage to %charge" should be possibly be "fully charged voltage to % of rated capacity". Which makes me feel better about my current battery it hasn't had more than 12.4 for the last couple of years. But recently my friend's battery after an hour's ride was showing 11.8 and would not crank his bike. YMMV but if I run the AGM battery--on either the '99 I used to own or the 08 I have--to 11.1 (due to stupidity/abuse on my part) it would start the bike in "typical" conditions. With NAPA 15w50 synthetic in it even. For more fun typical charging voltage for both the '08(65k miles) and '99(32k miles) were right around 14v. Measured with Garmin 276 (attached at the battery terminals, neat display field on the map screen) that I had checked with a digital multimeters. But if I turn my '08 high beam on (stock wiring) it goes _up_ to 14.5, _if_ the battery is fully charged when I do it. If I had run the voltage down to that stupid level it wasn't going to see 14v until more than an hour of running. I typically run it down to high 11's when I am at a campground for a few days and use it to charge the notebook computer and such. It would be charging the battery at ~12v and slowly go up to 14v. I get a little anal after a few push starts when I wasn't paying as much attention as I should have to what I was doing. Hiking days in a state or national parks are murder on my battery's. That and leaving the dang GPS on the bike in the on setting, oops. One of these days I will install a relay to prevent that. Nope to lazy. For what little it is worth, Mike Nasca -----Original Message----- From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hink Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:25 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; Jud Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart I seem to remember reports earlier on this list of the pre-07 models KLR running higher voltages, like around 16v. This was thought to happen because of the lower amp output of the charging systems. Does anyone else remember this or has anyone checked the voltage on their charging system and how would that fit in with this file? Fred http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com From: Jud Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 5:00 AM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Battery chart The chart is now available in the Files section. Thanks, Lee. There is a little more info there, but here's the meat of it: Battery Voltage %Charge 12.63 100 12.54 90 12.45 80 12.36 70 12.27 60 12.18 50 12.09 40 12.00 30 11.91 20 11.82 0 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Members Map https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212558560286766214899.0004d0fa9f1732283 bb6f&msa=0&ll=38.522384,-109.489746&spn=6.831383,9.624023Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Members Map https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212558560286766214899.0004d0fa9f1732283bb6f&msa=0&ll=38.522384,-109.489746&spn=6.831383,9.624023Yahoo! Groups Links

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