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ron criswell
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a new trick i figured out

Post by ron criswell » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:02 pm

I just stop and get fuel on the road every hunerd to hunerd fifty miles cause my ass hurts and don't have to worry about the fuel. Criswell Sent from my iPad
On Dec 6, 2012, at 11:31 AM, mark ward wrote: > Do to....The point at witch this story starts is........Running out of fuel and needing to switch over to the shorter straw. > > > As with MANY MANY of these threads, it may start out "Oil", switch to chains, then into The best burger I ever had. (while dragging peg's in a sweep.) LOL > > --- On Thu, 12/6/12, Bogdan Swider wrote: > > From: Bogdan Swider > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] A new trick I figured out > To: "RobertWichert" > Cc: "Jeff Saline" , "DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 5:04 PM > > I don't know, Robert. With your credentials, you seem more the science > fair guy then me. Why can't the straw sit there full of fuel ? > > Bogdan, curious in Colorado > > On 12/6/12 9:49 AM, "RobertWichert" wrote: > > >Right, but is that longer straw full of fuel? I think not. > > > > > >Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > >+1 916 966 9060 > >FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=============================================== > > > >On 12/6/2012 8:02 AM, Bogdan Swider wrote: > >> When you switch from main to > >> > >> reserve all you are doing is changing the fuel supply from the tall main > >> straw in the tank to the shorter reserve straw right next to it in the > >> tank. > >> > >> Yes, and from my experience say eastern Colorado or Baja Mexico > >> that reserve straw was way too short; I figured it allowed a half > >> gallon or so - of fuel. I lengthened said straw and now have maybe 1 > >> 1/3 gallons on reserve. The main advantage is that I no longer fuel > >> up ahead of time out of fear. The last pope quoting Isaiah, I think, > >> often said, " Do not be afraid ". I posted the specs on this very list > >> a few years ago. I now longer have the information as that file was > >> lost in one of my computer mishaps. Oh well > >> > >> Bogdan > >> > >> > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > >Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Member Map: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > >Group Apps: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > >Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

RobertWichert
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a new trick i figured out

Post by RobertWichert » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:04 pm

Well, I guess it could. Or maybe not. A motionless straw holds water. Shake it a bit and maybe it comes out. Depends on the situation, I guess. The long straw is definitely under the gas most of the time, but when the gas gets low and vibrates around, well, I would expect it to be under the gas anyway, but maybe the other end has a leak. Again, I'm not sure. I am only saying that at high load, on the freeway, shaking away at 6,000 RPM where I ride, it seems to have a big lag between switching the valve and the engine getting the fuel that could be caused by air in the reserve line. It may be a problem in my valve, or may be a leak in the hose that allows air into the hose. Like maybe at the tank connection? All I know is that the enrichener has made my life easier on the freeway.... Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================
On 12/6/2012 9:04 AM, Bogdan Swider wrote: > I don't know, Robert. With your credentials, you seem more the science > fair guy then me. Why can't the straw sit there full of fuel ? > > Bogdan, curious in Colorado > > On 12/6/12 9:49 AM, "RobertWichert" wrote: > >> Right, but is that longer straw full of fuel? I think not. >> >> >> Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C >> +1 916 966 9060 >> FAX +1 916 966 9068 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> =============================================== >> >> On 12/6/2012 8:02 AM, Bogdan Swider wrote: >>> When you switch from main to >>> >>> reserve all you are doing is changing the fuel supply from the tall main >>> straw in the tank to the shorter reserve straw right next to it in the >>> tank. >>> >>> Yes, and from my experience say eastern Colorado or Baja Mexico >>> that reserve straw was way too short; I figured it allowed a half >>> gallon or so - of fuel. I lengthened said straw and now have maybe 1 >>> 1/3 gallons on reserve. The main advantage is that I no longer fuel >>> up ahead of time out of fear. The last pope quoting Isaiah, I think, >>> often said, " Do not be afraid ". I posted the specs on this very list >>> a few years ago. I now longer have the information as that file was >>> lost in one of my computer mishaps. Oh well >>> >>> Bogdan >>> >>> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com >> Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> Member Map: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map >> Group Apps: >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! >> Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

Stephen Watson
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a new trick i figured out

Post by Stephen Watson » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:01 pm

My philosophy as well! With a trashed low back; a couple of hours in the saddle and I need to walk around anyway. Off road its fuel bottles (Kru 82 vodka empties work well so far) and lots o'pain! ________________________________ From: Ron Criswell To: mark ward Cc: RobertWichert ; Bogdan Swider ; Jeff Saline ; "DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] A new trick I figured out I just stop and get fuel on the road every hunerd to hunerd fifty miles cause my ass hurts and don't have to worry about the fuel.CriswellSent from my iPadOn Dec 6, 2012, at 11:31 AM, mark ward wrote:> Do to....The point at witch this story starts is........Running out of fuel and needing to switch over to the shorter straw.> > > As with MANY MANY of these threads, it may start out "Oil", switch to chains, then into The best burger I ever had. (while dragging peg's in a sweep.) LOL> > --- On Thu, 12/6/12, Bogdan Swider wrote:> > From: Bogdan Swider > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] A new trick I figured out> To: "RobertWichert" > Cc: "Jeff Saline" , "mailto:DSN_klr650%40yahoogroups.com" > Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 5:04 PM> > I don't know, Robert. With your credentials, you seem more the science> fair guy then me. Why can't the straw sit there full of fuel ?> > Bogdan, curious in Colorado> > On 12/6/12 9:49 AM, "RobertWichert" wrote:> > >Right, but is that longer straw full of fuel? I think not.> >> >> >Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C> >+1 916 966 9060> >FAX +1 916 966 9068> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >===============================================> >> >On 12/6/2012 8:02 AM, Bogdan Swider wrote:> >> When you switch from main to> >>> >> reserve all you are doing is changing the fuel supply from the tall main> >> straw in the tank to the shorter reserve straw right next to it in the> >> tank.> >>> >> Yes, and from my experience say eastern Colorado or Baja Mexico > >> that reserve straw was way too short; I figured it allowed a half> >> gallon or so - of fuel. I lengthened said straw and now have maybe 1> >> 1/3 gallons on reserve. The main advantage is that I no longer fuel> >> up ahead of time out of fear. The last pope quoting Isaiah, I think,> >> often said, " Do not be afraid ". I posted the specs on this very list> >> a few years ago. I now longer have the information as that file was> >> lost in one of my computer mishaps. Oh well > >>> >> Bogdan> >>> >> > >> >> >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >> >> >> >------------------------------------> >> >List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com> >Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com> >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html> >Member Map: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map> >Group Apps: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo!> >Groups Links> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com/> Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com/ > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html> Member Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map> Group Apps: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! Groups Links> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

RobertWichert
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a new trick i figured out

Post by RobertWichert » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:18 pm

Oil? Did you say Oil? Well, I found this really great synthetic oil... Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================
On 12/6/2012 9:31 AM, mark ward wrote: > > Do to....The point at witch this story starts is........Running out of > fuel and needing to switch over to the shorter straw. > > > As with MANY MANY of these threads, it may start out "Oil", switch to > chains, then into The best burger I ever had. (while dragging peg's in > a sweep.) LOL > > --- On Thu, 12/6/12, Bogdan Swider > wrote: > > From: Bogdan Swider > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] A new trick I figured out > To: "RobertWichert" > > Cc: "Jeff Saline" >, > "DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com " > DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 5:04 PM > > I don't know, Robert. With your credentials, you seem more the science > fair guy then me. Why can't the straw sit there full of fuel ? > > Bogdan, curious in Colorado > > On 12/6/12 9:49 AM, "RobertWichert" > wrote: > > >Right, but is that longer straw full of fuel? I think not. > > > > > >Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > >+1 916 966 9060 > >FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=============================================== > > > >On 12/6/2012 8:02 AM, Bogdan Swider wrote: > >> When you switch from main to > >> > >> reserve all you are doing is changing the fuel supply from the tall > main > >> straw in the tank to the shorter reserve straw right next to it in the > >> tank. > >> > >> Yes, and from my experience say eastern Colorado or Baja Mexico > >> that reserve straw was way too short; I figured it allowed a half > >> gallon or so - of fuel. I lengthened said straw and now have maybe 1 > >> 1/3 gallons on reserve. The main advantage is that I no longer fuel > >> up ahead of time out of fear. The last pope quoting Isaiah, I think, > >> often said, " Do not be afraid ". I posted the specs on this very list > >> a few years ago. I now longer have the information as that file was > >> lost in one of my computer mishaps. Oh well > >> > >> Bogdan > >> > >> > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > >Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Member Map: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > >Group Apps: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > >Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > Group Apps: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > Groups Links > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

RobertWichert
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a new trick i figured out

Post by RobertWichert » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:21 pm

OK! Now it's a seat thread! I really like my Sargeant seat. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================
On 12/6/2012 10:02 AM, Ron Criswell wrote: > > I just stop and get fuel on the road every hunerd to hunerd fifty > miles cause my ass hurts and don't have to worry about the fuel. > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 6, 2012, at 11:31 AM, mark ward > wrote: > > > Do to....The point at witch this story starts is........Running out > of fuel and needing to switch over to the shorter straw. > > > > > > As with MANY MANY of these threads, it may start out "Oil", switch > to chains, then into The best burger I ever had. (while dragging peg's > in a sweep.) LOL > > > > --- On Thu, 12/6/12, Bogdan Swider > wrote: > > > > From: Bogdan Swider > > > Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] A new trick I figured out > > To: "RobertWichert" > > > Cc: "Jeff Saline" >, > "DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com " > DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 5:04 PM > > > > I don't know, Robert. With your credentials, you seem more the science > > fair guy then me. Why can't the straw sit there full of fuel ? > > > > Bogdan, curious in Colorado > > > > On 12/6/12 9:49 AM, "RobertWichert" > wrote: > > > > >Right, but is that longer straw full of fuel? I think not. > > > > > > > > >Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C > > >+1 916 966 9060 > > >FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >=============================================== > > > > > >On 12/6/2012 8:02 AM, Bogdan Swider wrote: > > >> When you switch from main to > > >> > > >> reserve all you are doing is changing the fuel supply from the > tall main > > >> straw in the tank to the shorter reserve straw right next to it > in the > > >> tank. > > >> > > >> Yes, and from my experience say eastern Colorado or Baja Mexico > > >> that reserve straw was way too short; I figured it allowed a half > > >> gallon or so - of fuel. I lengthened said straw and now have > maybe 1 > > >> 1/3 gallons on reserve. The main advantage is that I no longer fuel > > >> up ahead of time out of fear. The last pope quoting Isaiah, I > think, > > >> often said, " Do not be afraid ". I posted the specs on this very > list > > >> a few years ago. I now longer have the information as that file was > > >> lost in one of my computer mishaps. Oh well > > >> > > >> Bogdan > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > >List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > > >Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Member Map: > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > > >Group Apps: > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > > >Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com > > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map > > Group Apps: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > Groups Links > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

RobertWichert
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a new trick i figured out

Post by RobertWichert » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:29 pm

Just for the record. My KLR is my daily transportation. I run out of gas on the way to the store. I NEVER fill up before I get to reserve. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================
On 12/6/2012 1:01 PM, Stephen Watson wrote: > My philosophy as well! With a trashed low back; a couple of hours in > the saddle and I need to walk around anyway. Off road its fuel > bottles (Kru 82 vodka empties work well so far) and lots o'pain! > > *From:* Ron Criswell > *To:* mark ward > *Cc:* RobertWichert ; Bogdan Swider > ; Jeff Saline ; > "DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:02 PM > *Subject:* Re: [DSN_KLR650] A new trick I figured out > I just stop and get fuel on the road every hunerd to hunerd fifty > miles cause my ass hurts and don't have to worry about the > fuel.CriswellSent from my iPadOn Dec 6, 2012, at 11:31 AM, mark ward > wrote:> Do to....The point at witch > this story starts is........Running out of fuel and needing to switch > over to the shorter straw.> > > As with MANY MANY of these threads, it > may start out "Oil", switch to chains, then into The best burger I > ever had. (while dragging peg's in a sweep.) LOL> > --- On Thu, > 12/6/12, Bogdan Swider wrote:> > > From: Bogdan Swider > Subject: > Re: [DSN_KLR650] A new trick I figured out> To: "RobertWichert" > > Cc: "Jeff Saline" > , "mailto:DSN_klr650%40yahoogroups.com" > > Date: Thursday, December 6, > 2012, 5:04 PM> > I don't know, Robert. With your credentials, you seem > more the science> fair guy then me. Why can't the straw sit there full > of fuel ?> > Bogdan, curious in Colorado> > On 12/6/12 9:49 AM, > "RobertWichert" wrote:> > >Right, but is > that longer straw full of fuel? I think not.> >> >> >Robert Wichert > P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C> >+1 916 966 9060> >FAX +1 916 966 9068> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >===============================================> >> >On > 12/6/2012 8:02 AM, Bogdan Swider wrote:> >> When you switch from main > to> >>> >> reserve all you are doing is changing the fuel supply from > the tall main> >> straw in the tank to the shorter reserve straw right > next to it in the> >> tank.> >>> >> Yes, and from my experience say > eastern Colorado or Baja Mexico > >> that reserve straw was way too > short; I figured it allowed a half> >> gallon or so - of fuel. I > lengthened said straw and now have maybe 1> >> 1/3 gallons on reserve. > The main advantage is that I no longer fuel> >> up ahead of time out > of fear. The last pope quoting Isaiah, I think,> >> often said, " Do > not be afraid ". I posted the specs on this very list> >> a few years > ago. I now longer have the information as that file was> >> lost in > one of my computer mishaps. Oh well > >>> >> Bogdan> >>> >> > >> >> > >> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >> >> >> > >------------------------------------> >> >List Sponsors - Dual Sport > News: http://www.dualsportnews.com> >Arrowhead Motorsports: > http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com> >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok: > http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html> >Member Map: > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map> > >Group Apps: > > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo!> > >Groups Links> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------> > > List Sponsors - Dual Sport News: http://www.dualsportnews.com/> > Arrowhead Motorsports: http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com/ > List FAQ > courtesy of Chris Krok: http://www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html> Member > Map: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/app/peoplemap/view/map> > Group Apps: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSN_KLR650/grouplets/subscriptionsYahoo! > Groups Links> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Jeff Saline
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a new trick i figured out

Post by Jeff Saline » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:51 pm

On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:49:54 -0800 RobertWichert writes:
> Right, but is that longer straw full of fuel? I think not. > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C
<><><><><><> <><><><><><> Robert, Bogdan, Sorry about my absence but I got swamped with life for a couple of days. : ) I think the straw Bogdan lengthened is the main straw in the tank. That extra length means there is less fuel above the straw so you run out of main fuel sooner than with the shorter stock main straw. Since the volume of fuel in the tank doesn't change it just changes the amount of fuel available for the main to less and the reserve to more. The reserve straw will have fuel in it from inside the fuel tank to the selector valve in the petcock. The fuel system plumbing below the selector valve in the petcock will be empty when run out of fuel in the main or off position. Some folks also shorten the reserve straw and I've heard of a few guys removing it all together. Of course if the straw is totally removed it then allows all the crud at the bottom of the tank to drain straight into the carb which can start all kinds of interesting running issues. The reserve straw has fuel in it until the fuel level is so low that you are now pushing the bike instead of riding it. But Robert, you are correct that the fuel system plumbing below the petcock will be empty when the main runs out of fuel. That plumbing will drain and so will the float bowl. The first indication a rider gets in my experience is a slight lack/lag of throttle response soon followed by stuttering and then silence. The couple of times I've either forgot to turn on my petcock or ran down to reserve I've been able to identify the issue and take quick action to switch to reserve. My engine has never shut down from switching from main to reserve. In my opinion a properly operating fuel system will not cause the engine to die just from promptly switching from main to reserve. If a guy allows the engine to sputter a bit before taking action the engine might die since sputtering is the last notification you get before silence. As someone pointed out earlier, if you just coast with the bike still in gear and clutch engaged the engine can pull vacuum and keep the petcock open so the fuel system will fill. If the clutch is disengaged with a dead engine there will be no vacuum to the petcock and the only way to get it to open is by cranking the engine. I've seen it take over 15 seconds of cranking to get enough fuel to the carb so the engine can start. I could see a partially clogged carb vent system as slowing the fill of the carb. Other possibilities might include a poor vacuum connection to the petcock, a torn/leaking petcock diaphragm and a blocked vent passage in the fuel cap venting system. To check the petcock diaphragm you can take a short ride of maybe 2-3 miles. Stop the bike/engine and immediately remove the vacuum line from the back of the petcock. If inside the vacuum line it shows any sign of dampness, fuel or dripping fuel the diaphragm is leaking and needs to be replaced. The inside of the vacuum line should be dry with no exceptions. Corrections that are possible for a torn diaphragm are petcock replacement with a new stock petcock to keep the vacuum feature, replace with a different petcock for manual only operation, replace the diaphragm with a new part or eliminate the vacuum feature with the blockoff plate setup I sell or make your own which for some is pretty easy and impossible for others. No matter what you do it should work for you. Robert, since you've got a procedure that works for you and your bike you're golden. : ) Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2

revmaaatin
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a new trick i figured out

Post by revmaaatin » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:20 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, greg coyle wrote:
> > just a thought, but since our klr's get very consistent gas mileage > maybe you could just fill up before you need to hit reserve... imho... > gregc >
Greg I almost agree with you. grin. My mileage varies from 35 to ~55mpg, all a feature of headwind and RPM. I suggest your observation should read, "our bikes get [fairly]consistent gas mileage at 5Krpm in no- wind conditions." Flogging the pig and experiencing incredible headwinds (of the central plains states) will cause the gas mileage to vary greatly. Flog the pig into a head wind and it approaches 35mpg. Discovering that your pig requires reserve at ~160miles can be disconcerting. Another thing you should note, if you hit reserve and it is a long ways home, you should consider selecting max range mph = ~45mph and coast going down hill. revmaaatin.

revmaaatin
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a new trick i figured out

Post by revmaaatin » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:39 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Swider wrote:
> > What is your point, Mark ? That we should keep to themes we've exhausted ? Ever converse around the camp fire ? What's wrong with a little stream of consciousness ? > > Bogdan
It might be bcause it has been a long time since we saw an ablatross at the campfire. shrug. revmaaatin. ps. It is blowing snow and I just breasted a fat Canadian goose for tomorrows dinner. cough. Thank you fellow Canadians....

revmaaatin
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a new trick i figured out

Post by revmaaatin » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:52 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: SNIP > > Again, I'm not sure. I am only saying that at high load, on the > freeway, shaking away at 6,000 RPM where I ride, it seems to have a big > lag between switching the valve and the engine getting the fuel that > could be caused by air in the reserve line. Robert, In three KLR's, (one is a 250, now 'sold') all three acted differently. One stone cold dies, One stumbles 15 sec's then dies The 250 hesitated, then stone cold dies. All three could be swithched to reserve before coming to a stop, albeit maybe down to 40ish mph from 65+. They do slow down fast when the fire goes out! One thing that has not been asked, "Do you have a fuel filter installed?" THAT will take longer [on some bikes] to build suffcient head pressure to push through the filter. Personally, I think the the straw/screen is enough filter for this guilded pit. shrug. It might be worth considering replacing the fuel line as a precaution. and If the fuel cap is not properly venting [even in the slightest!], you will get a slow change over. and the final thing that IMO might have the most impact: Jeff Saline has a excellent photo essay write up on cleaning the fuel cap vent one way 'mushroom' valve in the caps. Perhaps he will provide a link. If either of those things help, let us know. revmaaatin.

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