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anybody done the 685cc or 705cc mod?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:45 pm
by fw189uhu
Been reading up on the 685cc and 7065cc mods from Schnitz/Mtech. Sound interesting.
Anybody done one of these? What results are you seeing?
Thanks.
Dave
anybody done the 685cc or 705cc mod?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:15 pm
by john triplett
Yes, I put a silk shirt on a pig. I did the 705, bigger valves, head
porting, Power Bomb head pipe, and more. It's still a pig, just a faster
pig. It will not keep up with a KTM, Honda, or a Husky. What it did do is
carry my fat ass to Robbinsville NC and back at 75 mph last week from
Lacombe LA. 580 miles. I left with a slightly over filled crank case,
and arrived back home with a slightly over filled crank case. I put cams in
it at the same time, so I can't say what they did. It's got tons of low end,
Way more than stock. Excuse my rambling, I did not think this one out. BTW,
it's an 07. 43'000 miles. Hard miles. Got it new, These are all my miles, or
smiles.Been layed down many times. Last time in the Smokies' ah last week I
think,Last week. Don't be fooled, A Mich T63 or a Dunlap 606 will hold up to
a sport bike.I found this out the hard way Call me a bad motorcycle driver,
whatever these guy's fly.
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anybody done the 685cc or 705cc mod?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:38 pm
by David H. Klaus
Thanks, John, glad to hear it went well.
Power? Vibration? Noise? Total cost? PITA factor for the install?
Appreciate your input.
Dave
We did a 685 on my A17 couple months ago. It s great runs great, uses no oil, etc.
Very Respectfully,
John Cox
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Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Anybody Done The 685cc or 705cc Mod?
Been reading up on the 685cc and 7065cc mods from Schnitz/Mtech. Sound interesting.
Anybody done one of these? What results are you seeing?
Thanks.
Dave
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anybody done the 685cc or 705cc mod?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:56 pm
by Jeff Saline
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:45:37 -0000 "fw189uhu"
writes:
> Been reading up on the 685cc and 7065cc mods from Schnitz/Mtech.
> Sound interesting.
>
> Anybody done one of these? What results are you seeing?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave
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Dave,
I did the 685 last year. Not hard at all if you follow the directions
from Schnitz and in a Clymers manual.
For me the big difference is less vibration. I'm talking the difference
between lawnmower smooth and sewing machine smooth. Also just a bit more
grunt and performance than a stock 650. Fuel economy is the same for me
at 50mpg with 14/46 sprockets and no oil use.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
.
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anybody done the 685cc or 705cc mod?
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:32 pm
by GMac
Speaking of the Schnitz 685 kit, will the 95 head take a cylinder from a 96
up bike?
Greg McKinney
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Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Anybody Done The 685cc or 705cc Mod?
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:45:37 -0000 "fw189uhu"
writes:
> Been reading up on the 685cc and 7065cc mods from Schnitz/Mtech.
> Sound interesting.
>
> Anybody done one of these? What results are you seeing?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave
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Dave,
I did the 685 last year. Not hard at all if you follow the directions
from Schnitz and in a Clymers manual.
For me the big difference is less vibration. I'm talking the difference
between lawnmower smooth and sewing machine smooth. Also just a bit more
grunt and performance than a stock 650. Fuel economy is the same for me
at 50mpg with 14/46 sprockets and no oil use.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
.
.
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anybody done the 685cc or 705cc mod?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:28 am
by Jeff Saline
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:32:33 -0500 "GMac" writes:
> Speaking of the Schnitz 685 kit, will the 95 head take a cylinder
> from a 96
> up bike?
>
> Greg McKinney
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Yes.
Best,
Jeff
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anybody done the 685cc or 705cc mod?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:03 am
by John Biccum
Mine was the very first 685 on the road, even before Cary got his bike done.
It has been trouble free for more than 25K miles now.. Here are the dyno
results:
http://johnbiccum.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/KLR685-dyno/1198525_UFLYW#87767369
_AGnfu
Note that there is no "stock" dyno run. The first run is with the 685
piston and stock valves the second run is with the 685 and the oversize
valves. I'd do the valves when you are inside the engine, my stock valves
failed (tuliped) just 5K miles after fitting the 685 piston.
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Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Anybody Done The 685cc or 705cc Mod?
Been reading up on the 685cc and 7065cc mods from Schnitz/Mtech. Sound
interesting.
Anybody done one of these? What results are you seeing?
Thanks.
Dave
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anybody done the 685cc or 705cc mod?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:55 am
by David H. Klaus
Hi John
Holy smoke. I've been reading all I can find on the web about the 685 and 705 and while many people recommend getting the head done, I haven't found anybody who's mentioned the valve failure after upgrade. How many miles did your original valves have on them?
It seems to me that if I'm going to the trouble and expense of doing this upgrade (including the head upgrade), it makes more sense to go with the 705 for just a few hundred more.
Everybody I've heard from or read about who's actually done the conversion seems to really love it (685 and 705).
Thanks for the heads up.
Dave
From: John Biccum
Subject: RE: [DSN_KLR650] Anybody Done The 685cc or 705cc Mod?
Date: June 19, 2011 12:03:08 PM EDT
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Cc: DSN _KLR650 DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>
Mine was the very first 685 on the road, even before Cary got his bike done. It has been trouble free for more than 25K miles now.. Here are the dyno results:
http://johnbiccum.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/KLR685-dyno/1198525_UFLYW#87767369_AGnfu
Note that there is no stock dyno run. The first run is with the 685 piston and stock valves the second run is with the 685 and the oversize valves. I d do the valves when you are inside the engine, my stock valves failed (tuliped) just 5K miles after fitting the 685 piston.
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Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Anybody Done The 685cc or 705cc Mod?
Been reading up on the 685cc and 7065cc mods from Schnitz/Mtech. Sound interesting.
Anybody done one of these? What results are you seeing?
Thanks.
Dave
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anybody done the 685cc or 705cc mod?
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:17 pm
by Ronald Criswell
People have told me the best way to improve (and easiest) the KLR's performance is with a pumper carberator instead of the constant velocity one that comes with stock. I think the CVC carb is good for changing altitude but falls short on throttle response. I don't think I want to mess with all the trouble and expense of a 685. A friend did that and has had to tear it apart again for various things a few times but don't know if it had something to do with the conversion. Why not get a 800 GS Beemer to start with instead of going through all that. A KLR is what it is and I accept mine kinda like it is.
Staying alive at 55 mph Criswell
Criswell
On Jun 18, 2011, at 5:38 PM, David H. Klaus wrote:
> Thanks, John, glad to hear it went well.
>
> Power? Vibration? Noise? Total cost? PITA factor for the install?
>
> Appreciate your input.
>
> Dave
>
>
> We did a 685 on my A17 couple months ago. It s great runs great, uses no oil, etc.
>
> Very Respectfully,
>
> John Cox
>
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> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Anybody Done The 685cc or 705cc Mod?
>
>
> Been reading up on the 685cc and 7065cc mods from Schnitz/Mtech. Sound interesting.
>
> Anybody done one of these? What results are you seeing?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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running stop lights
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:04 pm
by Charlie Y
The traffic light sensors are induction change sensors, like a metal
detector.
A magnet will not work. you need more mass of a magnetic material like iron.
which the KLR just ain't got. Even the specially marked "bicycle" sensors
around here
only detect the KLR 50-50.
-- charlie