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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "vospertw" wrote: > > I didn't get a chance to do any troubleshooting as I had to get to > work, but here's the skinny: > > A14 with new battery, been running like a champ. Went to start this > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch disengaged. > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then nothing. Both > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not come back > on with key in "on" position. Seems to me like the bike is acting like > the kill switch is still in the "off" position. Any ideas? Thanks! >

> Went to start this > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch disengaged. > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then nothing. Both > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not come back > on with key in "on" position.

>From: Blake Sobiloff >To: "vospertw" >CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Problem Starting >Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:08:00 -0800 > >On Nov 18, 2005, at 7:27 AM, vospertw wrote: > > Went to start this > > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch disengaged. > > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then nothing. Both > > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not come back > > on with key in "on" position. > >I hate to be happy at someone else's misfortune, but "yea!" I've had >the same darn thing happen to me and I couldn't figure out for sure >what the problem was. I was trying to leave my girlfriend's place and >go back home, all suited up and ready to ride. Hit the starter, hear >a very short crank, and *poof* the headlight and indicator lights >went out and it seemed like the bike was dead. Grumpy girlfriend has >to drive me home late at night. > >I figured I'd blown the main fuse, but the next day when I was trying >to fix it the fuse was fine. In fact, the lights came back on when I >turned the key, even though the engine still wouldn't crank. I took >the cover off of the starter relay, cleaned up the molex connector >and put some dielectric grease on it, and the bike would crank again. > >That's been around six months ago that I did that "fix" and the >symptoms haven't come back. But, I still don't understand why all the >lights went out initially, or what made them functional by morning. >And that annoys me. >-- >Blake Sobiloff >http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> >San Jose, CA (USA) > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

> > Electrical problems are real funny. They never go away, they just

> evasive. If you don't find them, they come back to haunt you. I

> airhead go dead in the middle of a trip, wiggled the wires and off

> It happened again, and wiggle the wires, off we go. Then it

> way to B.F.Iowa, went dead and wiggling the wires did nothing.

> nothing and cussing didn't heop either. A bit of logic and the

> diagram located the problem to a corroded main lug. Ini your case

> have found the culprit. I've had a similar jproblem but traced it

> bumped safety switch. > > > >From: Blake Sobiloff > >To: "vospertw" > >CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Problem Starting > >Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:08:00 -0800 > > > >On Nov 18, 2005, at 7:27 AM, vospertw wrote: > > > Went to start this > > > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch

> > > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then

> > > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not

> > > on with key in "on" position. > > > >I hate to be happy at someone else's misfortune, but "yea!" I've

> >the same darn thing happen to me and I couldn't figure out for

> >what the problem was. I was trying to leave my girlfriend's place

> >go back home, all suited up and ready to ride. Hit the starter,

> >a very short crank, and *poof* the headlight and indicator lights > >went out and it seemed like the bike was dead. Grumpy girlfriend

> >to drive me home late at night. > > > >I figured I'd blown the main fuse, but the next day when I was

> >to fix it the fuse was fine. In fact, the lights came back on

> >turned the key, even though the engine still wouldn't crank. I

> >the cover off of the starter relay, cleaned up the molex connector > >and put some dielectric grease on it, and the bike would crank

> > > >That's been around six months ago that I did that "fix" and the > >symptoms haven't come back. But, I still don't understand why all

> >lights went out initially, or what made them functional by

> >And that annoys me. > >-- > >Blake Sobiloff > >http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > >San Jose, CA (USA) > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "vospertw" wrote: > > Thanks for the help, folks. Always start with the easiest solution, > right? Sure enough, positive terminal connection to the battery was > loose. Wish I would have thought of that this morning... lost a nice > day to ride to work. > > Todd > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Peplinski" > wrote: > > > > Electrical problems are real funny. They never go away, they just > get > > evasive. If you don't find them, they come back to haunt you. I > had my > > airhead go dead in the middle of a trip, wiggled the wires and off > we went. > > It happened again, and wiggle the wires, off we go. Then it > happened. Half > > way to B.F.Iowa, went dead and wiggling the wires did nothing. > tugging did > > nothing and cussing didn't heop either. A bit of logic and the > main fuse > > diagram located the problem to a corroded main lug. Ini your case > you may > > have found the culprit. I've had a similar jproblem but traced it > to a > > bumped safety switch. > > > > > > >From: Blake Sobiloff > > >To: "vospertw" > > >CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Problem Starting > > >Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:08:00 -0800 > > > > > >On Nov 18, 2005, at 7:27 AM, vospertw wrote: > > > > Went to start this > > > > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch > disengaged. > > > > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then > nothing. Both > > > > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not > come back > > > > on with key in "on" position. > > > > > >I hate to be happy at someone else's misfortune, but "yea!" I've > had > > >the same darn thing happen to me and I couldn't figure out for > sure > > >what the problem was. I was trying to leave my girlfriend's place > and > > >go back home, all suited up and ready to ride. Hit the starter, > hear > > >a very short crank, and *poof* the headlight and indicator lights > > >went out and it seemed like the bike was dead. Grumpy girlfriend > has > > >to drive me home late at night. > > > > > >I figured I'd blown the main fuse, but the next day when I was > trying > > >to fix it the fuse was fine. In fact, the lights came back on > when I > > >turned the key, even though the engine still wouldn't crank. I > took > > >the cover off of the starter relay, cleaned up the molex connector > > >and put some dielectric grease on it, and the bike would crank > again. > > > > > >That's been around six months ago that I did that "fix" and the > > >symptoms haven't come back. But, I still don't understand why all > the > > >lights went out initially, or what made them functional by > morning. > > >And that annoys me. > > >-- > > >Blake Sobiloff > > >http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > > >San Jose, CA (USA) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: > > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> If the lights went out it's purely electrical. Undo your battery > connectors, clean them, and retighten. It's probably just a loose > connection. > > Check the battery with a volt meter, or hook it up directly to > another > 12v source (like your car). Just make sure the engine of your car is > > OFF as the alternator will put way too much juice through those > jumper > cables. > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "vospertw" > wrote: > > > > I didn't get a chance to do any troubleshooting as I had to get to > > > work, but here's the skinny: > > > > A14 with new battery, been running like a champ. Went to start > this > > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch disengaged. > > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then nothing. > Both > > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not come > back > > on with key in "on" position. Seems to me like the bike is acting > > like > > the kill switch is still in the "off" position. Any ideas? > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Glenn, > > You made a comment about making sure the engine of the car is off as the > alternator will put way to much juice through the jumper cables. I agree > with the make sure the engine is off part but I believe you are incorrect > about the reason. The cables will handle everything the alternator will > put out and way more. The vehicle being jumped will only take what it > requires. The reason to have the engine of the jumping vehicle off is to > keep from frying electrics in either vehicle. The battery of the jumping > vehicle if in good condition will have all the power required to start > the jumped vehicle and then start the jumping vehicle once the cables are > disconnected. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:38:11 -0000 "Glenn" writes: > > If the lights went out it's purely electrical. Undo your battery > > connectors, clean them, and retighten. It's probably just a loose > > connection. > > > > Check the battery with a volt meter, or hook it up directly to > > another > > 12v source (like your car). Just make sure the engine of your car is > > > > OFF as the alternator will put way too much juice through those > > jumper > > cables. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "vospertw" > > wrote: > > > > > > I didn't get a chance to do any troubleshooting as I had to get to > > > > > work, but here's the skinny: > > > > > > A14 with new battery, been running like a champ. Went to start > > this > > > morning, bike was in neutral, kickstand down, clutch disengaged. > > > Pressed the starter and got a split second crank, then nothing. > > Both > > > neutral and highbeam indicator lights went out and will not come > > back > > > on with key in "on" position. Seems to me like the bike is acting > > > > like > > > the kill switch is still in the "off" position. Any ideas? > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> I just acquired my dad's KLR and it won't start unless it is in > neutral and the clutch is disengaged. Is there a faulty switch > somewhere that is preventing the bike from starting when the bike is > in gear and the clutch is engaged? Any help would be appreciated.