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sprocket question
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:25 am
by Jeff Saline
"bmrbill" wrote:
Jeff,
I tried a 16/45 once. The 106L chain was not long enough. As I
recall, I also had a new rear tire. That only made it worse. Try
what I tried last month- go from a 14/43 to a 16/43 in the same
day. I ended up asking myself, "What's really wrong with the
15/43? Nothing." With a 14t, I still can't keep up with my buddy
on his CR500 in the dirt. The KLR's suspension bottoms out hard.
(Be nice- I'm 5'11", 175lbs) But then, he can't touch me on the
pavement, 14t or otherwise.
Ride safe,
Bill- who needs to order a new 15t to replace the worn out one.
>>>>>>>>>>>
Bill,
Thanks for your comments. I'm not hoping to go fast or out perform
anybody. But on my limited riding in the dirt with my KLR with the stock
15/43 set up I wished I'd had lower gearing. It seemed when I was in 1st
gear I was having to slip the clutch a bunch or in second gear I was
wishing for a 1.5 or 2.5 gear. I'm hoping the lower gearing will be the
answer to my wishes. I find my bike just plenty fast enough for me with
a 15/43 set up so it's lower gearing that will be the answer. I hope.
Best,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
sprocket question
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:20 pm
by klr6501995
Yep thats the klr650. I have only played with front sprockets. The 14
is good for the dirt. not for the highway.
16t good for the highway and not for the dirt.
15 is ok on both
I agree with your view of feeeling a need for 1.5 or 2.5.
One day I will be putting a klr600 first gear into the 650.
Don't worry about needing to slip the cluth. I have been in some
crazy sand and stuck situations since owning a 86klr250 87klr650 and
95klr650. Never burnt a clutch.
One thing about that big 650. I think slipping the cluth is the only
way to go. Several 650 singles I been on . well when the motor stalls
at that slow crawling speed. It stops you dead in your tracks.
Usually in a unbalanced posistion. And down you go.
>
> Thanks for your comments. I'm not hoping to go fast or out perform
> anybody. But on my limited riding in the dirt with my KLR with the
stock
> 15/43 set up I wished I'd had lower gearing. It seemed when I was
in 1st
> gear I was having to slip the clutch a bunch or in second gear I was
> wishing for a 1.5 or 2.5 gear. I'm hoping the lower gearing will
be the
> answer to my wishes. I find my bike just plenty fast enough for me
with
> a 15/43 set up so it's lower gearing that will be the answer. I
hope.
>
> Best,
>
> Jeff Saline
> ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
> Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
> The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
> 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
sprocket question
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:53 pm
by bmrbill
I'm not sure, but I thought I once read that the KLR650 clutch came
from the KZ900. Supposed to be "indestructable." Can someone more
knowledgable than me confirm or refute?
Bill
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "klr6501995" wrote:
> Yep thats the klr650. I have only played with front sprockets. The
14
> is good for the dirt. not for the highway.
> 16t good for the highway and not for the dirt.
> 15 is ok on both
> I agree with your view of feeeling a need for 1.5 or 2.5.
> One day I will be putting a klr600 first gear into the 650.
> Don't worry about needing to slip the cluth. I have been in some
> crazy sand and stuck situations since owning a 86klr250 87klr650
and
> 95klr650. Never burnt a clutch.
> One thing about that big 650. I think slipping the cluth is the
only
> way to go. Several 650 singles I been on . well when the motor
stalls
> at that slow crawling speed. It stops you dead in your tracks.
> Usually in a unbalanced posistion. And down you go.
>
>
> >
> > Thanks for your comments. I'm not hoping to go fast or out
perform
> > anybody. But on my limited riding in the dirt with my KLR with
the
> stock
> > 15/43 set up I wished I'd had lower gearing. It seemed when I
was
> in 1st
> > gear I was having to slip the clutch a bunch or in second gear I
was
> > wishing for a 1.5 or 2.5 gear. I'm hoping the lower gearing
will
> be the
> > answer to my wishes. I find my bike just plenty fast enough for
me
> with
> > a 15/43 set up so it's lower gearing that will be the answer. I
> hope.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Saline
> > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
> > Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
> > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
> > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
sprocket question
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:20 pm
by takes2serious
just changing out the stock 15t sprocket for a PBI 16t so I can drop
the revs a touch on the superslab, and I notice the stock sprocket
has rubber shoulders. I assume these are sprocket specific and that
the PBI just mounts up without them, correct?
Excuse my ignorance, but I've been street-only prior to this A18 and
I've never seen rubber shoulders on a sprocket. Just checking.
Randy
sprocket question
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:25 pm
by Glen
mount that 16 tooth it is only the stock one that has the rubber.
glenski
a14
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "takes2serious"
wrote:
> just changing out the stock 15t sprocket for a PBI 16t so I can
drop
> the revs a touch on the superslab, and I notice the stock sprocket
> has rubber shoulders. I assume these are sprocket specific and
that
> the PBI just mounts up without them, correct?
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but I've been street-only prior to this A18
and
> I've never seen rubber shoulders on a sprocket. Just checking.
>
> Randy
sprocket question
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:37 pm
by Keith Saltzer
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "takes2serious"
wrote:
> just changing out the stock 15t sprocket for a PBI 16t so I can
drop
> the revs a touch on the superslab, and I notice the stock sprocket
> has rubber shoulders. I assume these are sprocket specific and
that
> the PBI just mounts up without them, correct?
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but I've been street-only prior to this A18
and
> I've never seen rubber shoulders on a sprocket. Just checking.
>
> Randy
Yes, you are correct. Just make sure you orientate the new sprocket
the right way.
BTW, I do not like 16 tooth sprockets on the KLR at all. I have read
and heard time and time again about (dropping the rpm's) but I say so
what. So the motor is spinning a little faster than you "think" it
should be sounding. While your putting your motor at a lower rpm for
a given speed, your also losing mpg, because the motor is weaker in
that rpm range. Making the motor weaker makes it harder to pass,
slower to build speed, harder to climb hills, lowers your top speed,
and, of course, is harder on the motor overall.
I blasted across the US a few months ago with my 220 lb frame, and 50
lbs of gear averaging 75mph, using the stock 15 tooth sprocket.
There were hours upon hours that I did 80+, and hours that I did 68-
72 mph. I never burned more oil either way, (used 1/2 quart in 3000
miles) had all my power on tap when I needed it (which was often)
against truck wind blast, side and head winds, hill and mountains,
passing etc and it performed flawlessly. The 16 tooth IMHO makes the
KLR weaker than it needs to be. Doing the more serious off road
stuff does require the 14 tooth though, for easier riding in that
terrain.
MrMoose
A8 (Barbie and Ken special)
sprocket question
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:53 pm
by Alan L Henderson
takes2serious wrote:
> just changing out the stock 15t sprocket for a PBI 16t so I can drop
> the revs a touch on the superslab, and I notice the stock sprocket
> has rubber shoulders. I assume these are sprocket specific and that
> the PBI just mounts up without them, correct?
>
> Excuse my ignorance, but I've been street-only prior to this A18 and
> I've never seen rubber shoulders on a sprocket. Just checking.
>
> Randy
>
The rubber helps the KLR pass the EPA noise test as does the fiberglass
that used to be in the last section of your muffler.
Alan Henderson A13 Iowa
sprocket question
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:16 pm
by takes2serious
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Saltzer"
wrote:
>
> BTW, I do not like 16 tooth sprockets on the KLR at all. I have
read
> and heard time and time again about (dropping the rpm's) but I say
so
> what.
>
> MrMoose
> A8 (Barbie and Ken special)
I understand what you're saying and I may not keep it on, but I have
a problem with vibration at 5,000 rpms and above. My stocker is fine
to 65 mph and then the vibes are too much for long-distance riding
for me.
I would love to know how much my bike vibratues more than average, if
at all, because it's my first single and I have nothing to compare it
to. If some 'Vegas rider wants to meet up for a ride one day, and
would give me another KLR to compare to, I would be very grateful.
So, the reason I'm trying the 16T is to see if I can get a 75mph
cruise speed at 4500 rpms or thereabouts.
Randy
sprocket question
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:18 pm
by takes2serious
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Alan L Henderson
wrote:
> The rubber helps the KLR pass the EPA noise test as does the
fiberglass
> that used to be in the last section of your muffler.
> Alan Henderson A13 Iowa
Thanks for the quick replies on this guys. I wondered what the
rubber was for, as I had not seen it before on my street bikes. I'll
bet it does quiet down the chain some.
Randy
sprocket question
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:12 pm
by squasher_1
--- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "takes2serious"
wrote:
> --- In
DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Alan L Henderson
> wrote:
>
> > The rubber helps the KLR pass the EPA noise test as does the
> fiberglass
> > that used to be in the last section of your muffler.
> > Alan Henderson A13 Iowa
>
> Thanks for the quick replies on this guys. I wondered what the
> rubber was for, as I had not seen it before on my street bikes.
I'll
> bet it does quiet down the chain some.
>
> Randy
My Kawasaki ZR-7s has rubber around the sprocket just like the KLR.
maybe it's a Kawi thing