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Anyone ever tried one of these on the KLR: http://www.laminarlip.com/klr650.jpg from http://www.laminarlip.com and if so, did it work? Mike A18 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release Date: 4/26/2006

I made my own from clear lexan. It took a couple of trials and some heat from a heat gun but it works. It moves the wind blast up enough that ig goes over my face. The only problem I had is that it made my plus 4" windshield shake and cracked it at the base while riding in the cold. There is a version that holds a second shield in front of the stock shield and is supposed to work. I haven't tried this one yet but thats next.

>From: "Michael Silverstein" >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Laminar lip >Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:46:11 -0400 > >Anyone ever tried one of these on the KLR: >http://www.laminarlip.com/klr650.jpg from http://www.laminarlip.com and >if so, did it work? >Mike A18 > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release Date: 4/26/2006 > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

On 4/27/06 10:18 AM, "Mike Peplinski" wrote:

> I made my own from clear lexan. It took a couple of trials and some heat > from a heat gun but it works. It moves the wind blast up enough that ig goes > over my face. The only problem I had is that it made my plus 4" windshield > shake and cracked it at the base while riding in the cold. There is a > version that holds a second shield in front of the stock shield and is > supposed to work. I haven't tried this one yet but thats next. >

Cracking at the base is the problem with all taller shields. I went through two Clearviews that destructed while I was on trips. The base is simply not wide enough. That why I went Slipstreamer CF-30. Bogdan

Hi Michael I have not tried the laminar lip, nor known of anyone that has use it. I have toyed with the idea of installing vortex generators on the cowling (my windshield is removed as it dumps the air on my chin-y-chin- chin). On the jets, they look like 3/16" aluminum angle about 1" long mounted at a 45 degree to the airflow, mounted in pairs, about 3-4 inches apart. It could be placed on the cowl with double stick tape, or with rivets. The vortex generator allows the air to remain closer to the wing, stall later when the angle of attack (AOA) of the wing has exceeded the design, stall AOA (rough explanation, I don't build them, I just bend them). It could be that vortex generators would actually make the problem worse. If you look at all the pictures, you can learn something from the attatched strings to your own cowling/windshield. Install a tattle tale piece of yarn to the cowl with piece of tape and you will be surprised at what the airflow is doing. Vortex generators is a another project for another day. revmaaatin. --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Silverstein" wrote:

> > Anyone ever tried one of these on the KLR: > http://www.laminarlip.com/klr650.jpg from http://www.laminarlip.com

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> if so, did it work? > Mike A18 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.0/325 - Release Date:

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I was hoping someone had too. I have a laminar lip on my Hayabusa, and it really helps. Same windshield height, which I like, but moved the air stream to top of helmet. Got the bugs off the hemet windshield too. Seems like a good idea for the KLR to not make the windshield any bigger for dirt, but move windstream up for road. I will try one sometime if no reports.

On 5/28/06, E Hines wrote: > > Has anyone tried the Laminar Lip on their KLR. Is it a good investment, > looks like it may be a good idea. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- James Morrow Sr Union, MO '00' RT + dual plug + Bunkhouse '00' BUSA + 15hp '05' KLR650 + big fun factor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I copied the concept with a do-it-yourself variety. I made it about 1-1/2 inches taller and rolled the tip forward about 30 degrees. Stuck it on with doupld sticky foam tape. It worked a little bit. The buffet zone moved up a couple of inches so it hit on the top of my helmet but did not eliminate the buffeting. I tried multiple sizes and angles with mixed results. It helped with the cold wind. It also caused my windshield to break at the base. Otherwise I've done better by eliminating the windshield altogether. YOu have to try this. You won't believe the difference. Rain soaks me quicker and the wind hits the chest but the bike handles better at speed and the wind noise is not the shrill rumbling I get with any of the shields, including the "lip". I also built my own "lip" for my BMW with a Windjammer fairing and tall shield. On th is bike it works very well, completely eliminating the buffeting and wind. So much that the loudest noise is the engine, drive train and road noise of the tires. I may prefer the wind noise. You have to decide.

>From: E Hines >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Laminar Lip >Date: Sun, 28 May 2006 21:12:09 -0700 (PDT) > >Has anyone tried the Laminar Lip on their KLR. Is it a good investment, >looks like it may be a good idea. > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

There have been a few questions about the lip lately so I thought I'd give my impressions. I'll give some background on my comparison and you can draw your own conclusions. I have tried the Kawasaki tall windshield and intensely disliked the buffeting on my helmet. I didn't find it to be any quiter than the short Kawasaki and after 2 days of riding with it took it off. The short windshield I don't much like as it really doesn't shiled anything and prefer to ride without it. I decided to try the Lip and mated it to my short Kawa shield. I have done some highway riding with it at about 120 KPH/75 MPH and find it's significantly better than the short and tall windshields. There is stillsome buffeting and noise using the lip, but it is reduced and not a problem to deal with. I find I can hear the engine better now and have to get used to different noises the bike makes. I carry tools in my tank bag and can hear them rattling around now, it scared the heck out of me because I thought the engine was coming apart. The fit of the lip could be improved by slightly taller attachments which would provide a greater gap between the lip and the windshield. This would allow the lip to be mounted a bit higher and may direct the turbulent air a little higher. Admittedly, we are only talking about a half an inch, so it may accomplich very little. I intend to experiment a bit with a spacer between the windshiled and the lip. I think this will improve airflow and reduce turbulence more. The lip does improve turbulence, reduce noise and buffeting. The fit could be improved by taller spacers. On a scale of 1-10 I give it a 7. If I can improve it then maybe 8. I have read reports that the Lip has greatly altered the turbulence and noise and some other bikes, the KLR is a noisey windy bike by virtue of it's design and the Lip helps reduce that problem. Regards, Garrett __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I thought that I should send this report on the Laminar Lip to everyone. I hope it helps someone out. E Hines wrote: Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 16:46:04 -0800 (PST) From: E Hines Subject: Re: KLR Laminar Lip To: Joe Nelson I rode the bike from Fort Worth, TX to Clarksville, AR. On the first day we had high winds and the temperature never got out of the 40's. I am almost 6' tall and the wind was going just over my head. I was not effected by the weather as much as my brother-in-law who had the standard wind screen only (he was frozen on the first day). Another rider in our group had the large windscreen and he said the wind was not a factor. I rode the next day, both on and off road with lip still attached and had no problems. My friend took his tall screen off for the mostly off road riding of the day (he thought the bike handled better, without the big screen). I do feel the front end of the bike buffets more at speeds in excess of 70mph, but the buffeting I was getting, on my head, when riding is gone. I will be keeping the lip on my bike. I give it 3.5 to 4 stars out of 5. I have never ridden a bike with the taller screen, so I can not compare it to that. Joe Nelson wrote: In October you were going to get some more miles behind the Laminar Lip on your KLR. Do you have anything more to report? Noise? Buffetting? Tall or short windscreen? Thanks, Joe Nelson in WI ____________________________________________________________________________________ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]