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On 8/23/2010 9:09 AM, E Hines wrote: If you removed your petcock and his I would bet that your main tank side is longer than his. I have noticed that there is no standard in this. [b]From:[/b] kencefalo kencefalo@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Mon, August 23, 2010 10:51:38 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Running out of gas to soon. Sorry if this has come up in the past but I couldn't find it. When riding with a friend (he's also on a KLR), I have to switch to reserve first. I have barely made to a station with the engine stumbling and gasping, and he hasn't switched over yet. When we fill up, our bikes take the same amount of gas. Any ideas? Ken

That can't be it. One bike is totally out of gas and the other hasn't switched to reserve yet but they both take the same amount of gas to fill up. This sounds more like the reserve on the one that ran out earlier doesn't work at all. Or poorly. Or is plugged. Why would a "longer main tank side" (I assume this means tubing) cause a bike to run out of gas compared to another bike THAT TAKES THE SAME AMOUNT OF GAS TO FILL UP? Shorter, maybe. Or disconnected or broken. Are you saying that the tank capacities are that much different? Sorry for not figuring this out, but this still makes no sense to me. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ======================================================== On 8/23/2010 9:09 AM, E Hines wrote: If you removed your petcock and his I would bet that your main tank side is longer than his. I have noticed that there is no standard in this. [b]From:[/b] kencefalo kencefalo@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Mon, August 23, 2010 10:51:38 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Running out of gas to soon. Sorry if this has come up in the past but I couldn't find it. When riding with a friend (he's also on a KLR), I have to switch to reserve first. I have barely made to a station with the engine stumbling and gasping, and he hasn't switched over yet. When we fill up, our bikes take the same amount of gas. Any ideas? Ken

On 8/23/2010 11:53 AM, Mike Frey wrote: Robert: you almost had me on that one. Ken unintentionally asked a trick question: He didn't say that his bike was totally out of fuel, I assumed that he's simply going on reserve first. It's like one of those Marylin Savant quizzes in Parade Magazine... If both bikes take the same amount to fill, each bike was getting the same gas mileage. But, Ken needed to fill his up sooner, because it went on reserve sooner. The amount left in each respective bikes tank would still be equal. Suppose Ken's main tank has a pickup tube requires him to go to reserve at the 3/4 empty point: he has used 4.5 gallons. But, his friend's KLR won't need to go on reserve until the tank is 7/8 empty: he would have used 5.25 gallons. By that point, Ken would have switched to reserve about 40 miles earlier. So, they both pull into the gas station at the time Ken's bike is sputtering, ready to go on reserve. His friend's bike is not showing any signs of needing reserve yet. Both bikes take 4.5 gallons to fill. Each bike, before filling, had 1.5 gallons in the gas tank, but his friend would not be on reserve yet, because his would not need to until he used 5.25 gallons - and they did not ride that far yet. -------------------- I use my trip odometer as my fuel gage. At 200+ miles, I start thinking of getting gas. I have to switch to reserve at about 250-275 miles and I usually put about 5 gallons in (meaning that I have 1 gallon left in reserve). For most of my friends, that would be their 2nd gas stop. No one that I ride with can go as far as I can with the KLR without stopping for gas. Mike RobertWichert wrote: That can't be it. One bike is totally out of gas and the other hasn't switched to reserve yet but they both take the same amount of gas to fill up. This sounds more like the reserve on the one that ran out earlier doesn't work at all. Or poorly. Or is plugged. Why would a "longer main tank side" (I assume this means tubing) cause a bike to run out of gas compared to another bike THAT TAKES THE SAME AMOUNT OF GAS TO FILL UP? Shorter, maybe. Or disconnected or broken. Are you saying that the tank capacities are that much different? Sorry for not figuring this out, but this still makes no sense to me. Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ======================================================== On 8/23/2010 9:09 AM, E Hines wrote: If you removed your petcock and his I would bet that your main tank side is longer than his. I have noticed that there is no standard in this. [b]From:[/b] kencefalo kencefalo@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Mon, August 23, 2010 10:51:38 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Running out of gas to soon. Sorry if this has come up in the past but I couldn't find it. When riding with a friend (he's also on a KLR), I have to switch to reserve first. I have barely made to a station with the engine stumbling and gasping, and he hasn't switched over yet. When we fill up, our bikes take the same amount of gas. Any ideas? Ken

> [Original Message] > From: kencefalo > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 8/23/2010 11:55:42 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Running out of gas to soon. > > Sorry if this has come up in the past but I couldn't find it. > > When riding with a friend (he's also on a KLR), I have to switch to

> > Ken >

> [Original Message] > From: kencefalo > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> > Date: 8/23/2010 11:55:42 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Running out of gas to soon. > > Sorry if this has come up in the past but I couldn't find it. > > When riding with a friend (he's also on a KLR), I have to switch to

> > Ken >