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won't shift
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:10 am
by iamchefian
Riding in the dirt yesterday when the 2000 KLR (54k miles) got stuck in first. Played around with it and got it into 2nd but it wouldn't shift after that. The shift lever is fine and the shaft moves but no response from the trans. Rode home 25 miles in 2nd. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Ian
won't shift
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:14 am
by Fred Hink
You sure that the shift lever is fine? Do you have the stock shift lever? Have you checked the welds by the shift shaft? They tend to crack and not let the shift lever do it's job.
Fred
http://www.arrowheadmotorsports.com
[b]From:[/b] BARBEQU124@... [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, August 02, 2010 10:06 AM [b]To:[/b]
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Won't Shift
Riding in the dirt yesterday when the 2000 KLR (54k miles) got stuck in first. Played around with it and got it into 2nd but it wouldn't shift after that. The shift lever is fine and the shaft moves but no response from the trans. Rode home 25 miles in 2nd. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Ian
won't shift
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:19 am
by transalp 1
Have you fallen on that side recently?
I'm thinking it may have a bent shift fork.
eddie
> [Original Message]
> From: iamchefian
> To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: 8/2/2010 12:10:42 PM
> Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Won't Shift
>
> Riding in the dirt yesterday when the 2000 KLR (54k miles) got stuck in
first. Played around with it and got it into 2nd but it wouldn't shift
after that. The shift lever is fine and the shaft moves but no response
from the trans. Rode home 25 miles in 2nd. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks,
Ian
>
>
won't shift
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:24 am
by BARBEQU124@aol.com
The shifter is a heavy duty replacement I put in after the original broke at 20k miles.It looks fine and is moving the shaft the full shift distance. Bringing full pressure up or down gets no response.Also the movement of the shifter is not being blocked at either end. Ian
won't shift
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:27 am
by BARBEQU124@aol.com
The bike hasn't been down in years. Ian
won't shift
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:04 pm
by Mike Frey
I still recommend checking the lever and make sure it's not hitting the case somewhere. Get down there at eye level and check it out.
Even your shoes or a tree branch can bend it in such a way that the lever hits the case when you are upshifting and many highly experienced riders have thought "uh oh" when it's only a bent lever.
If not that, next step is inside the cases.......shifter forks.
BARBEQU124@... wrote:
The bike hasn't been down in years. Ian
won't shift
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:17 pm
by Jeff Saline
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:06:03 -0000 "iamchefian"
writes:
> Riding in the dirt yesterday when the 2000 KLR (54k miles) got stuck
> in first. Played around with it and got it into 2nd but it wouldn't
> shift after that. The shift lever is fine and the shaft moves but no
> response from the trans. Rode home 25 miles in 2nd. Anyone have any
> ideas? Thanks, Ian
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Ian,
If the shift lever isn't broken, bent or touching something making
shifting impossible... I'd bet it's a broken spring inside the tranie
part of the engine. Right side under the cover. It looks like in my
Clymer's manual (M474-3) in chapter 6 (Clutch, Gearshift Linkage and
Lubrication System) under the External Gearshift Linkage section it's
called a return spring on the shift shaft assembly. See figure 48 if you
have this manual.
That's just my wild guess right before heading off to bed.
Best of luck with it,
Jeff Saline
ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
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(nxr)(nxrl)(nklr) time to call in sick.....
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:12 pm
by RobertWichert
Oh. That's very different.
Never mind.
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On 8/3/2010 2:30 PM, mark ward wrote: Have you, ever noticed, when [b]you[/b] are driving (riding) down the road, (At ANY speed) anyone, slower then [b]YOU[/b], is a complete idiot, and ALSO anyone faster, than [b]YOU[/b], is a total LUNATIC!
And that this seems to be the case at any speed YOU are going, AT THE TIME. [b]Most!! of the world[/b], [b]THINK, ANYONE, who rides a motorcycle.. ........ IS INSANE![img]
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[b]From:[/b] Jeff Khoury
[b]To:[/b] Red Rock
[b]Cc:[/b] DSN _KLR650
[b]Sent:[/b] Tue, August 3, 2010 3:28:29 PM
[b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] (NXR)(NXRL)( NKLR) Time to call in sick.....
OK then, subtract the gay-pirate snark.
That still leaves setting an example of riding around with no gear or helmets and making it look uber-cool.
Unless you want to look like this:
http://bit.ly/ dgHsQQ
or this:
http://bit.ly/ adShEc
or this:
http://bit.ly/ ctVEG3
-Jeff Khoury
----- Original Message -----
From: "Red Rock" red.rock47@...
To: "Jeff Khoury" jeff@...
Cc: "DSN _KLR650" ups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:45:11 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] (NXR)(NXRL)( NKLR) Time to call in sick.....
Jeff
Listen to the song - We all ride different bikes for different reasons - it's all about the freedom.
Don't judge or preach, just ride and enjoy.
Red
[b]From:[/b] Jeff Khoury jeff@...
[b]To:[/b] Jim Douglas james.douglas@...
[b]Cc:[/b] DSN _KLR650
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
[b]Sent:[/b] Tue, August 3, 2010 11:51:23 AM
[b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] (NXR)(NXRL)( NKLR) Time to call in sick.....
OK. So was I the only one that cringed through the whole song at the no-safety-gear, no-helmet-wearin' gay-pirate look?
I consider this a video of "what not to do".
-Jeff Khoury
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Douglas" james.douglas@...
To: "DSN _KLR650" ups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2010 8:22:39 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] (NXR)(NXRL)( NKLR) Time to call in sick.....
Found this on same page as previous video. Shows the fantastic
handling of the big bikes....... ......... ....NOT
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=6rueC1r8W1s&feature=related
On 8/1/2010 8:25 AM, Eric J Foster wrote: [quote]
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=x4mU8ZqMZPU&feature=related
[/quote]
won't shift
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:55 pm
by spike55_bmw
I agree with Jeff, remove the right side engine case. Once you have it off, you'll be able to move the shift lever on the left side and watch what isn't working properly on the right side. The shift lever goes across the engine from left to right and moves a star wheel that rotates a shift drum inside the engine halves and that moves the forks to engage the different gears. Several springs in there (right side) that might be a problem or the bolt loosened up between the star wheel and shift drum (star wheel move but does rotate the drum so there is not gear change).
Removing the right side case is a pain. You need to drain the coolant because the pump shaft comes through multiple layers of the case. You'll have to get new gaskets too. One for the water pump and one for the side case. Drain all of the oil and I took the brake lever off (hanging) too.
Plan on removing the exhaust header (might need a new metal gasket) and the clutch cable too. Remember to draw a silhouette of the side case bolt pattern and the water pump on a piece of cardboard so you can punch little holes through it for each bolt (two or three different lengths so keep it organized).
You are about to embark on an interesting educational experience. I envy you.
Don R100, A6F (x2)
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DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote:
>
> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:06:03 -0000 "iamchefian"
> writes:
> > Riding in the dirt yesterday when the 2000 KLR (54k miles) got stuck
> > in first. Played around with it and got it into 2nd but it wouldn't
> > shift after that. The shift lever is fine and the shaft moves but no
> > response from the trans. Rode home 25 miles in 2nd. Anyone have any
> > ideas? Thanks, Ian
> <><><><><><><>
> <><><><><><><>
>
> Ian,
>
> If the shift lever isn't broken, bent or touching something making
> shifting impossible... I'd bet it's a broken spring inside the tranie
> part of the engine. Right side under the cover. It looks like in my
> Clymer's manual (M474-3) in chapter 6 (Clutch, Gearshift Linkage and
> Lubrication System) under the External Gearshift Linkage section it's
> called a return spring on the shift shaft assembly. See figure 48 if you
> have this manual.
>
> That's just my wild guess right before heading off to bed.
>
> Best of luck with it,
>
> Jeff Saline
> ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal
> Airheads Beemer Club
www.airheads.org
> The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
> 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
>
>
> .
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