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riding in 4th

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:48 pm
by Craig Kahler
I want to keep my 16T front sprocket for highway riding, but many of the roads I ride are to slow for 5th gear.
Does alot of riding around in 4th gear cause extra wear on the transmission?
Craig Kahler

riding in 4th

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:55 pm
by Jeff Saline
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riding in 4th

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 3:03 pm
by transalp 1
Most prolonged riding is done in 5th. Giving 3rd or 4th a chance seems like a way to prolong the tranny life. ;) I've ever heard of anyone tearing up anything but 2nd gear ... and that's on multi-cyclinder bikes abused by their owners. Like Jeff said, don't lug the engine and enjoy the ride! eddie    
----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] ckahleer@... [b]To: [/b]dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] 5/11/2010 3:48:24 PM [b]Subject:[/b] [DSN_KLR650] Riding in 4th I want to keep my 16T front sprocket for highway riding, but many of the roads I ride are to slow for 5th gear. Does alot of riding around in 4th gear cause extra wear on the transmission? Craig Kahler

riding in 4th

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:54 pm
by dooden
No it will not harm anything. Dooden A15 Green Ape
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Craig Kahler wrote: > > I want to keep my 16T front sprocket for highway riding, but many of the roads I ride are to slow for 5th gear. > Does alot of riding around in 4th gear cause extra wear on the transmission? > Craig Kahler >

riding in 4th

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 3:38 pm
by notanymoore
I have the same problem. Always hunting between 4th and 5th with the 16 tooth sprocket on roads with 35-45 MPH speed limits. Just try to not lug the engine. The tradeoff in ride improvement at higher speeds is worth it IMO. Since most of my driving is higher speed, I've actually found the KLR is easier on oil with the extra tooth. KLR oil consumption seems to go up dramatically at prolonged speeds over 65 MPH with the 15 tooth. There seems to be a dropoff after a certain RPM level.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Craig Kahler wrote: > > I want to keep my 16T front sprocket for highway riding, but many of the roads I ride are to slow for 5th gear. > Does alot of riding around in 4th gear cause extra wear on the transmission? > Craig Kahler >

riding in 4th

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:52 pm
by Jud
Tall gearing is great on the right bike. The KLR is not the right bike. First of all, it doesn't have any vibration to speak of. Not compared to a big Brit single whose grips get as big as baseball bats any time the revs get within 20 degrees of the red line. Second, it has the aerodynamics of a barn door. Even with a tail wind it's not going to pull red line on 16/43, and with stock gearing it will probably run faster in fourth. A taller gear on this bike just narrows its focus. It may feel a little calmer droning down the freeway at 75 or 80, but it will be worse at everything else. Like pottering along those nice 45-50 mph roads. Like running around town. Like cruising those 2-tracks and fire roads this bike seems made for. With the upright riding position, I don't really care to spend a lot of time over 65 anyway, so I see no point in setting it up to run there at the expense of everything else it does so well.
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "notanymoore" wrote: > > > > I have the same problem. Always hunting between 4th and 5th with the 16 tooth sprocket on roads with 35-45 MPH speed limits. Just try to not lug the engine. The tradeoff in ride improvement at higher speeds is worth it IMO. > > Since most of my driving is higher speed, I've actually found the KLR is easier on oil with the extra tooth. KLR oil consumption seems to go up dramatically at prolonged speeds over 65 MPH with the 15 tooth. There seems to be a dropoff after a certain RPM level. > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Craig Kahler wrote: > > > > I want to keep my 16T front sprocket for highway riding, but many of the roads I ride are to slow for 5th gear. > > Does alot of riding around in 4th gear cause extra wear on the transmission? > > Craig Kahler > > >

riding in 4th

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:50 pm
by roncriswell@sbcglobal.net
I'm with you Jud. I see no reason to go to a 16. I have heard it sucks against a strong wind. My KLR cruises just fine at 80 indicated and sometimes 85. I have done this all day long in summer heat. It never complains and mine doesn't shake much. Criswell
On May 12, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Jud wrote:   Tall gearing is great on the right bike. The KLR is not the right bike. First of all, it doesn't have any vibration to speak of. Not compared to a big Brit single whose grips get as big as baseball bats any time the revs get within 20 degrees of the red line. Second, it has the aerodynamics of a barn door. Even with a tail wind it's not going to pull red line on 16/43, and with stock gearing it will probably run faster in fourth. A taller gear on this bike just narrows its focus. It may feel a little calmer droning down the freeway at 75 or 80, but it will be worse at everything else. Like pottering along those nice 45-50 mph roads. Like running around town. Like cruising those 2-tracks and fire roads this bike seems made for. With the upright riding position, I don't really care to spend a lot of time over 65 anyway, so I see no point in setting it up to run there at the expense of everything else it does so well. --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "notanymoore" wrote: > > > > I have the same problem. Always hunting between 4th and 5th with the 16 tooth sprocket on roads with 35-45 MPH speed limits. Just try to not lug the engine. The tradeoff in ride improvement at higher speeds is worth it IMO. > > Since most of my driving is higher speed, I've actually found the KLR is easier on oil with the extra tooth. KLR oil consumption seems to go up dramatically at prolonged speeds over 65 MPH with the 15 tooth. There seems to be a dropoff after a certain RPM level. > > > --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Craig Kahler wrote: > > > > I want to keep my 16T front sprocket for highway riding, but many of the roads I ride are to slow for 5th gear. > > Does alot of riding around in 4th gear cause extra wear on the transmission? > > Craig Kahler > > >

riding in 4th

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:54 pm
by RobertWichert
Folks, I am seriously considering changing to a 14 tooth front sprocket.  For the following reasons: 1)    I went riding on a sandy road two weeks ago, and I never got out of first gear.  Ever. 2)    There are times when I would like to go slower, with enough throttle to make a difference.  This even happens in parking lots.  When I learned to ride, we put HUGE sprockets on the back and just crawled along.  I did lots of gnarly stuff like that and didn't know the difference. 3)    From what I can tell, I will still be able to ride at 80 mph (my highway speed preference) without getting above 5500 rpm. 4)    Does anybody have a "speed in gears" chart for the KLR 650? 5)     I know that Kawi was looking for compromise, but I think they may have opted for less revs to keep people from freaking out.  For me, the extra 500 rpm is not scary.  And I don't care if I hit 100 mph or not. Any advice from the gallery?  Jud? Robert P. Wichert P.Eng +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ========================================================
On 5/12/2010 3:47 PM, Jud wrote:   Tall gearing is great on the right bike. The KLR is not the right bike. First of all, it doesn't have any vibration to speak of. Not compared to a big Brit single whose grips get as big as baseball bats any time the revs get within 20 degrees of the red line. Second, it has the aerodynamics of a barn door. Even with a tail wind it's not going to pull red line on 16/43, and with stock gearing it will probably run faster in fourth. A taller gear on this bike just narrows its focus. It may feel a little calmer droning down the freeway at 75 or 80, but it will be worse at everything else. Like pottering along those nice 45-50 mph roads. Like running around town. Like cruising those 2-tracks and fire roads this bike seems made for. With the upright riding position, I don't really care to spend a lot of time over 65 anyway, so I see no point in setting it up to run there at the expense of everything else it does so well. --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, "notanymoore" RJTaylor@... wrote: > > > > I have the same problem. Always hunting between 4th and 5th with the 16 tooth sprocket on roads with 35-45 MPH speed limits. Just try to not lug the engine. The tradeoff in ride improvement at higher speeds is worth it IMO. > > Since most of my driving is higher speed, I've actually found the KLR is easier on oil with the extra tooth. KLR oil consumption seems to go up dramatically at prolonged speeds over 65 MPH with the 15 tooth. There seems to be a dropoff after a certain RPM level. > > > --- In DSN_KLR650%40yahoogroups.com, Craig Kahler wrote: > > > > I want to keep my 16T front sprocket for highway riding, but many of the roads I ride are to slow for 5th gear. > > Does alot of riding around in 4th gear cause extra wear on the transmission? > > Craig Kahler > > >

riding in 4th

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:37 pm
by dooden
Well I had 14/45 on for a while, playing offroad/trails it was wonderful, highway (around my parts posted limit is 55) it was pretty buzzzzzzzzzzzzzy, alright for 50 miles or so to say the campground where I was headed, but not something I would want stay at if on highway alot. When I had to start commuting 55 miles one way it went back to stock 15/43. Have left it that way, kinda stinks in the woods, but almost never do the real nasty stuff since my wife is out front on her 4 wheeler. Always make her take point so the ride is at her speed and not mine. Only takes a few minutes to change front and/or rear sprocket if I got other plans. Dooden A15 Green Ape
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > Folks, > > I am seriously considering changing to a 14 tooth front sprocket. For > the following reasons: > > 1) I went riding on a sandy road two weeks ago, and I never got out > of first gear. Ever. > 2) There are times when I would like to go slower, with enough > throttle to make a difference. This even happens in parking lots. When > I learned to ride, we put HUGE sprockets on the back and just crawled > along. I did lots of gnarly stuff like that and didn't know the difference. > 3) From what I can tell, I will still be able to ride at 80 mph (my > highway speed preference) without getting above 5500 rpm. > 4) Does anybody have a "speed in gears" chart for the KLR 650? > 5) I know that Kawi was looking for compromise, but I think they may > have opted for less revs to keep people from freaking out. For me, the > extra 500 rpm is not scary. And I don't care if I hit 100 mph or not. > > Any advice from the gallery? Jud? > > > Robert P. Wichert P.Eng > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > ======================================================== > > > On 5/12/2010 3:47 PM, Jud wrote: > > > > > > Tall gearing is great on the right bike. The KLR is not the right > > bike. First of all, it doesn't have any vibration to speak of. Not > > compared to a big Brit single whose grips get as big as baseball bats > > any time the revs get within 20 degrees of the red line. Second, it > > has the aerodynamics of a barn door. Even with a tail wind it's not > > going to pull red line on 16/43, and with stock gearing it will > > probably run faster in fourth. > > > > A taller gear on this bike just narrows its focus. It may feel a > > little calmer droning down the freeway at 75 or 80, but it will be > > worse at everything else. Like pottering along those nice 45-50 mph > > roads. Like running around town. Like cruising those 2-tracks and fire > > roads this bike seems made for. > > > > With the upright riding position, I don't really care to spend a lot > > of time over 65 anyway, so I see no point in setting it up to run > > there at the expense of everything else it does so well. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > , "notanymoore" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have the same problem. Always hunting between 4th and 5th with the > > 16 tooth sprocket on roads with 35-45 MPH speed limits. Just try to > > not lug the engine. The tradeoff in ride improvement at higher speeds > > is worth it IMO. > > > > > > Since most of my driving is higher speed, I've actually found the > > KLR is easier on oil with the extra tooth. KLR oil consumption seems > > to go up dramatically at prolonged speeds over 65 MPH with the 15 > > tooth. There seems to be a dropoff after a certain RPM level. > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > , Craig Kahler wrote: > > > > > > > > I want to keep my 16T front sprocket for highway riding, but many > > of the roads I ride are to slow for 5th gear. > > > > Does alot of riding around in 4th gear cause extra wear on the > > transmission? > > > > Craig Kahler > > > > > > > > > > > >

riding in 4th

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:04 pm
by E Hines