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klr650: what if ??
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:12 am
by Luc Legrain
What would a 16 front and 45 rear do for my speed ,let's say at my normal rpm 5000-5500 ,in fifth ?
klr650: what if ??
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:17 am
by Bob K
I am about to find out....I just ordered a 16t front for my 09
They say it drops the rpm's about 300-400
Bob 09
Martinsville,IN.
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From: zrislois2klr@...
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 06:11:58 -0700
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] klr650: What if ??
What would a 16 front and 45 rear do for my speed ,let's say at my normal rpm 5000-5500 ,in fifth ?
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update - i'm looking for the super tall windshield you took off, in
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:00 am
by marshall
Should have mentioned I've got two KLR's now and I'm setting up one for strickly road, back and forth, here and there. I'm wanting the 10 inch overstock version that is way too tall for off roading. By chance do you have one in the corner or on a shelf?
Thanks Marshall E
klr650: what if ??
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:19 am
by Jeff Saline
Luc,
Stock is 15/43 so you take 43 divide by 15 and get a ratio of 2.86.
The ratio of the new gearing of 16/45 is 45 divided by 16 which is 2.81.
The percent different is -1.92% meaning the engine will be turning that
much slower than with the stock gearing.
At 5,000 rpm you could multiple 5,000 by 0.9808 (100 minus 1.92) to get
4904 rpm and the difference from the stock gearing would be 96 engine rpm
slower.
Now if you are going to do some trail riding and changed the 16 tooth
front for a 14 tooth front. Well, just substitute the numbers above and
do the calculations to see a very nice difference.
Best,
Jeff Saline
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Airheads Beemer Club
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75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 06:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Luc Legrain
writes:
> What would a 16 front and 45 rear do for my speed ,let's say at my
> normal rpm 5000-5500 ,in fifth ?
>
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klr650: what if ??
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:47 am
by revmaaatin
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Luc Legrain wrote:
>
> What would a 16 front and 45 rear do for my speed ,let's say at my normal rpm 5000-5500 ,in fifth ?
Start from what we know: (divide the big number by the small)
15/43 = 2.866
14/43 increases the RPM ~400 for the same speed
43/14 = 3.07 ratio
a .203 movement in ratio = ~ 400 rpm movement. (NOTE: the rpm gauge is limited in its absolute accuracy, but this puts you in the ball park. It might actually be 327 or 415rpms. )
Some other useful numbers:
16/46 (2.875)is roughly equivalent to 15/43 (2.86)
45/16 = 2.812
Luc, the answer to your question: you will see more speed for the same rpm you had at OEM gearing. You will see a change in your RPM's. smile.
but what you really want to know
and what you gain by having the 45T is this
45/14 = 3.21
45/13 = 3.46
43/14 = 3.07
43/13 = 3.30
Having the 45T rear (mine is a JT 46T--not available in the US)is that it gives the KLR a whole new life at the low-speed end of our riding spectrum.
The down side is that if/when you select the low end gearing, you will or you might want to be limited on how fast you want to ride. = 65mph @ 6500rpms; otherwise, the 'prize' you will win is an attendant increase of oil consumption if you persist at high rpm's for any length of time.
Why should you think about a sprocket change?
For 20 minutes of time, changing the $20 front sprocket you get a whole new bike. Especially, when coupled with the 45T (or 46T) sprocket, it is one of the best REAL farkles you can buy. NOTE: The 16/46T rear requires a 108 link chain. I have no knowledge if a 16/45 combination will work with a OEM 106 length chain.
Even if you just change the 15/43 to a 14/43, you will have a much better mannered bike at the stop light or on the gravel roads and jeep trails. Three of us changed to a 13/43 for the GDR beginning and what a great combination that was. We were still logging 50+mpg averages because we were mostly riding a