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kevbennett@sbcglobal.net
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help with electrical problem?

Post by kevbennett@sbcglobal.net » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:19 pm

I need some help from some of you smart KLR folks. The headlight went out on my trusty '96, along with the dash lights, hi/low indicator light and taillight. The blinkers still work, as does the neutral light, horn and brake light. The headlight bulb lights up when I jumper it direct to the battery. No juice seems to be getting to any of the wires that connect to the headlight. Of the three wires that go to the headlight, the two on the sides show continuity with ground. I don't know if this is normal or not. I've tried to figure this out via the wiring diagram, but I'm no electrician. I also tried tracing down the wires from the headlight, but they go into big bundles that run into the frame, and I can't tell where they go after that. I'd really appreciate any suggestions as to how to proceed. Kevin

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Post by Jeff Saline » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:57 pm

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:18:24 -0000 "kevbennett@..." writes:
> I need some help from some of you smart KLR folks. The headlight > went out on my trusty '96, along with the dash lights, hi/low > indicator light and taillight. The blinkers still work, as does the > neutral light, horn and brake light. The headlight bulb lights up > when I jumper it direct to the battery. > > No juice seems to be getting to any of the wires that connect to the > headlight. Of the three wires that go to the headlight, the two on > the sides show continuity with ground. I don't know if this is > normal or not. > > I've tried to figure this out via the wiring diagram, but I'm no > electrician. I also tried tracing down the wires from the > headlight, but they go into big bundles that run into the frame, and > I can't tell where they go after that. > > I'd really appreciate any suggestions as to how to proceed. > > Kevin
<><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> Kevin, Start with the simple stuff first. Sounds to me like the 10 amp fuse under the seat is blown. You have two fuses under the seat, a 20 amp main fuse and a 10 amp headlight circuit fuse. Might even be a spare fuse next to them. Replace the fuse and try it again. Don't just trust the fuse to look good and decide it's ok. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT . ____________________________________________________________ House Rescue Bill Passed $133,000 mortgage under $679/mo. Compare rates and save! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=n-Fjo0SBh_sNJ1Inj58NSwAAJ1DWfJIDP-R0_NC3mMpGFS0kAAQAAAAFAAAAAESHTz8AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaTcQAAAAA=

Jud
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Post by Jud » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:27 pm

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "kevbennett@..." wrote:
> > I need some help from some of you smart KLR folks. The headlight went out on my trusty '96, along with the dash lights, hi/low indicator light and taillight. The blinkers still work, as does the neutral light, horn and brake light. The headlight bulb lights up when I jumper it direct to the battery. > > No juice seems to be getting to any of the wires that connect to the headlight. Of the three wires that go to the headlight, the two on the sides show continuity with ground. I don't know if this is normal or not. > > I've tried to figure this out via the wiring diagram, but I'm no electrician. I also tried tracing down the wires from the headlight, but they go into big bundles that run into the frame, and I can't tell where they go after that. > > I'd really appreciate any suggestions as to how to proceed.
Jeff is showing a proper reserve when he says "start with the headlight fuse". I'll just go out on a limb and say it is the headlight fuse. It probably blew when you paused the switch between high and low beam, lighting both filaments. A 20 amp fuse to replace the 10 amp that's in there will insure that never happens again.

Kevin Bennett
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Post by Kevin Bennett » Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:59 am

I was really enthused about the idea that the fuse could look OK, but still be blown. I removed both fuses and tested them with a continuity meter; they are good. Any other suggestions? Thanks! Kevin

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Post by Jeff Saline » Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:16 am

On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:59:34 -0500 Kevin Bennett writes:
> I was really enthused about the idea that the fuse could look OK, but > > still be blown. I removed both fuses and tested them with a > continuity meter; they are good. Any other suggestions? > > Thanks! > > Kevin
<><><><><><><> <><><><><><><> Kevin, With the fuse in place do you have power on both sides of it? Best, Jeff . ____________________________________________________________ Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTFoYfCV2ahGIir5MkxcWoWYLsayZtegULjTi9BDKuJFCbVhbAzUMA/

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Post by Kevin Bennett » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:09 pm

Jeff, you were absolutely right! One side was dead. I replaced the fuse and it solved the problem. I'm a reasonably bright guy, and am a little embarrassed that I somehow managed to miss what should have been an obvious malfunction. Thanks for keeping me on the path of simplicity. Who knows what else I would have needlessly disassembled if you hadn't kept steering me towards the straightforward solution? Folks like you on this forum are one of the main reasons I bought a KLR. I really appreciate your quick responses and your patience. Kevin
On Oct 25, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:59:34 -0500 Kevin Bennett > writes: >> I was really enthused about the idea that the fuse could look OK, but >> >> still be blown. I removed both fuses and tested them with a >> continuity meter; they are good. Any other suggestions? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Kevin > <><><><><><><> > <><><><><><><> > > Kevin, > > With the fuse in place do you have power on both sides of it? > > Best, > > Jeff > > > . > ____________________________________________________________ > Obama Raises Pell Grants > Get Your Degree with Government Grants and Scholarships! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c? > cp > = > xza5768URj2VzzeEtU9M9gAAJ1CWtESlz5YhP3gRWr2dskIYAAQAAAAFAAAAAOCnLz4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABI2RwAAAAA > =

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Post by transalp 1 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:26 pm

I bought a brand new 1991 CB750 Nighthawk and two years later went on a ride to see about buying a leftover/new 1989 Transalp. I hadn't said anything to anyone. But, that very morning, the otherwise flawlessly running Nighthawk needed a bump start after the battery seemed down. I ended up trading bikes and told the dealership about the battery. "We'll check it." It turned out to be fine and cranked the bike for at least another year. After buying a *second* new Nighthawk (I rode for three years), IT'S battery tried to die the morning I went to trade it on a Pacific Coast. Same story. Once it got to the deaelership, it worked fine for them. Do bike's get jealous? Some definitely do. Right now, my 09' KLR and 08' GL1800 seem to get along. Then again, I cover them so they can't see each other and alternate bikes frequently. ;) eddie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Post by Richard Decker » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:36 pm

Dont worry Kevin, I'm sure most of us has done it... I know I have. "Well what the heck... it was working yesterday..."Wait, fuse? What fuse? d'oh! -Rich
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Kevin Bennett wrote: > > > Jeff, you were absolutely right! One side was dead. I replaced the > fuse and it solved the problem. I'm a reasonably bright guy, and am a > little embarrassed that I somehow managed to miss what should have > been an obvious malfunction. Thanks for keeping me on the path of > simplicity. Who knows what else I would have needlessly disassembled > if you hadn't kept steering me towards the straightforward solution? > > Folks like you on this forum are one of the main reasons I bought a > KLR. I really appreciate your quick responses and your patience. > > Kevin > > > On Oct 25, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Jeff Saline wrote: > > > On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:59:34 -0500 Kevin Bennett > > > writes: > >> I was really enthused about the idea that the fuse could look OK, but > >> > >> still be blown. I removed both fuses and tested them with a > >> continuity meter; they are good. Any other suggestions? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Kevin > > <><><><><><><> > > <><><><><><><> > > > > Kevin, > > > > With the fuse in place do you have power on both sides of it? > > > > Best, > > > > Jeff > > > > > > . > > __________________________________________________________ > > Obama Raises Pell Grants > > Get Your Degree with Government Grants and Scholarships! > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c? > > cp > > = > > > xza5768URj2VzzeEtU9M9gAAJ1CWtESlz5YhP3gRWr2dskIYAAQAAAAFAAAAAOCnLz4AAAMlAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABI2RwAAAAA > > > = > > > -- - Rich Decker Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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