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trouble starting
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:11 am
by Michael Koch
I hadn't started my KLR for about a month, and then yesterday, when
it was about 65 degrees F, I was unable to start it with the choke
on. Previously, with a cold engine, it has always started
immediately with full choke and no throttle. Yesterday I was able
to start it with the choke off and about half throttle. It ran well
and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It had
run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas has
deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few miles,
but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium gas.
I started it several more times and even with the engine warmed up I
had to give it some throttle to start it.
Is there a particular part of the carburetor that could be clogged
which would cause this problem, or is there something else I need to
check?
trouble starting
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:39 pm
by Keith Saltzer
> It ran well
> and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It had
> run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas has
> deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few miles,
> but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium gas.
Good idea to put in fresh fuel. I always make sure my fuel is never
more than 30 day old. But don't waste your money on "premium gas".
KLR's don't need it.
MrMoose
A8 (Barbie and Ken special)
trouble starting
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:39 pm
by Jud Jones
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Koch"
wrote:
>
> I hadn't started my KLR for about a month, and then yesterday, when
> it was about 65 degrees F, I was unable to start it with the choke
> on. Previously, with a cold engine, it has always started
> immediately with full choke and no throttle. Yesterday I was able
> to start it with the choke off and about half throttle. It ran well
> and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It had
> run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas has
> deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few miles,
> but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium gas.
> I started it several more times and even with the engine warmed up I
> had to give it some throttle to start it.
>
> Is there a particular part of the carburetor that could be clogged
> which would cause this problem, or is there something else I need to
> check?
You have probably collected some moisture in your float bowl, from
condensation. Drain the float bowl and see how it starts and runs.
Sea Foam next, followed by fresh gas. Don't waste your money on premium.
When your fuel does start to go off, the first place to feel the effects is the
pilot jet. If it's still not right look there.
trouble starting
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:21 pm
by L.D.
Not only do KLRs not need premium gas (as Keith pointed out) but it also breaks down faster than regular gas. When you park the bike for an extended period of time use fresh regular gas and Sta-Bil and run the bike long enough to get the mixture into the carb. This procedure has never failed for me even when the motorcyles have been left sitting for as long as six months.
L.D.
Keith Saltzer wrote:
> It ran well
> and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It had
> run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas has
> deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few miles,
> but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium gas.
Good idea to put in fresh fuel. I always make sure my fuel is never
more than 30 day old. But don't waste your money on "premium gas".
KLR's don't need it.
MrMoose
A8 (Barbie and Ken special)
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trouble starting
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:11 pm
by Rodney Copeland
Damit, I trust you guys opinions, but my KLR doesn't run near as good
on the 87 as it does on the 91!
Just me, I guess.
Rod,,,,,grittin his teeth at the thoughts of the sound of sparknockin!
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "L.D." wrote:
> Not only do KLRs not need premium gas (as Keith pointed out) but it
also breaks down faster than regular gas. When you park the bike for
an extended period of time use fresh regular gas and Sta-Bil and run
the bike long enough to get the mixture into the carb. This
procedure has never failed for me even when the motorcyles have been
left sitting for as long as six months.
>
> L.D.
>
> Keith Saltzer wrote:
>
>
>
> > It ran well
> > and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It had
> > run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas has
> > deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few miles,
> > but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium
gas.
>
> Good idea to put in fresh fuel. I always make sure my fuel is never
> more than 30 day old. But don't waste your money on "premium gas".
> KLR's don't need it.
>
>
> MrMoose
> A8 (Barbie and Ken special)
>
>
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trouble starting
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:21 pm
by Randall Marbach
Mine either.
Randy from Burbank
--- Rodney Copeland wrote:
>
>
> Damit, I trust you guys opinions, but my KLR doesn't
> run near as good
> on the 87 as it does on the 91!
> Just me, I guess.
> Rod,,,,,grittin his teeth at the thoughts of the
> sound of sparknockin!
>
>
>
> --- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "L.D."
> wrote:
> > Not only do KLRs not need premium gas (as Keith
> pointed out) but it
> also breaks down faster than regular gas. When you
> park the bike for
> an extended period of time use fresh regular gas and
> Sta-Bil and run
> the bike long enough to get the mixture into the
> carb. This
> procedure has never failed for me even when the
> motorcyles have been
> left sitting for as long as six months.
> >
> > L.D.
> >
> > Keith Saltzer wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > It ran well
> > > and idled o.k., but it was idling at about
> 1600-2000 rpm. It had
> > > run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is
> that the gas has
> > > deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it
> for a few miles,
> > > but I think I will drain the gas and refill with
> fresh premium
> gas.
> >
> > Good idea to put in fresh fuel. I always make sure
> my fuel is never
> > more than 30 day old. But don't waste your money
> on "premium gas".
> > KLR's don't need it.
> >
> >
> > MrMoose
> > A8 (Barbie and Ken special)
> >
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trouble starting
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:52 am
by klr6501995
I have went to a one step colder plug after running the stock plug.
This 98 motor sounded the same as my 95 motor. knock or ping at full
throttle and low to high rpm depending on gear. typical klr motor. my
first 87 was the same.
My current motor was a salvage yard motor and had a colder plug
already in it at 6.5 kmi. So the previouse owner found a need for a
colder plug.
the colder plug has made pratically all ping go away and now I just
hear tappy valves.
I live in Jax Fl. at sea level And for the past two years I play with
jetting during our mild winters.Not this year.
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Rodney Copeland"
wrote:
>
> Damit, I trust you guys opinions, but my KLR doesn't run near as
good
> on the 87 as it does on the 91!
> Just me, I guess.
> Rod,,,,,grittin his teeth at the thoughts of the sound of
sparknockin!
it
> also breaks down faster than regular gas. When you park the bike
for
> an extended period of time use fresh regular gas and Sta-Bil and
run
> the bike long enough to get the mixture into the carb. This
> procedure has never failed for me even when the motorcyles have
been
> left sitting for as long as six months.
> >
> > L.D.
> >
> > Keith Saltzer wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > It ran well
> > > and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It
had
> > > run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas
has
> > > deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few
miles,
> > > but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium
> gas.
> >
> > Good idea to put in fresh fuel. I always make sure my fuel is
never
> > more than 30 day old. But don't waste your money on "premium
gas".
> > KLR's don't need it.
> >
> >
> > MrMoose
> > A8 (Barbie and Ken special)
> >
> >
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trouble starting
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:05 am
by Michael Koch
My KLR is running fine now. I really hate to admit how stupid I
was, but here is the story. Last night I was reading the Clymer
manual in preparaton for removing and cleaning the carburetor. I
read over the starting procedure. You are supposed to turn the
choke lever to the left for full choke. Some idiot who had not been
on the bike for only one month had forgotten that and was trying to
start it with no choke and run it with full choke. Anyway, all's
well that ends well.
--- In
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Keith Saltzer"
wrote:
>
> > It ran well
> > and idled o.k., but it was idling at about 1600-2000 rpm. It
had
> > run fine the last time I rode it, so my guess is that the gas
has
> > deteriorated. I put in some Sea Foam and rode it for a few
miles,
> > but I think I will drain the gas and refill with fresh premium
gas.
>
> Good idea to put in fresh fuel. I always make sure my fuel is
never
> more than 30 day old. But don't waste your money on "premium
gas".
> KLR's don't need it.
>
>
> MrMoose
> A8 (Barbie and Ken special)
trouble starting
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:20 pm
by gillwrig
My engine will fire 30-40 times with the choke on then stop. I need
to let it sit for a while before it will do this again. I do not
think it is a carb problem as if I can get it going, it will run
strong without the choke.
Might this be a problem with the emissions hoses? Could this be an
electrical problem?
Gill
trouble starting
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:39 pm
by Michael T
Idle circuit BTW it is not a choke persay, it is an fuel enrichment circuit
(lever actuates a passage for additional fuel, not a restrictor to air
flow).
Michael T
A16
lasvegasrider
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From: gillwrig [mailto:gillwrig@...]
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 6:20 PM
To:
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] trouble starting
My engine will fire 30-40 times with the choke on then stop. I need to let
it sit for a while before it will do this again. I do not think it is a
carb problem as if I can get it going, it will run strong without the choke.
Might this be a problem with the emissions hoses? Could this be an
electrical problem?
Gill
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