Wilsons Sandbox

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:12 am**

[[ My question is about the out of round cylinder. Did something happen to cause this, or is it a factory defect? ]] I doubt your cylinder was "out of round" the aluminum piston will worp before the steel cylinder. Excessive heat will cause the piston to fail. Your lucky it is still under warrenty. if your running 5k+ RPM's . You should be using synthetic engine oil. Plus, not sure what fuel you feed your engine, but 91 Octane is required. -Mike- ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Don Pendergraft To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 7:55:59 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... I have an '08 KLR that is a real oil burner. 1 quart every 500 miles like clockwork. I ascribed it to bad luck and the fact that I spend alot of time above 5K rpm's on the highway. The bike has about 16K miles on it. Anyway, I brought it to the dealership to get the recall work done (3 recalls) because I'm tired of getting the notices. I had also batched together a list of other things for them to fix/replace (e.g. rotted rubber giblets, KACR issue, lower high beam, etc). Lastly, I told them that I wanted to file a warranty claim on the oil consumption issue. I've known about it forever since I was an early adopter of the '08 (purchased July '07), but I figured the pioneers get the arrows and I I thought I should let others battle Kawasaki until things became clearer. Well, that strategy worked in that Kawasaki is well aware of the issue. So I brought in the bike... The mechanics were great. I even went to church with one of them. They said they would get it squared away for me. When they tore it apart, they said they could see where the oil has been blowing past the piston and that the cylinder looked like it was out of round. They contacted Kawasaki and got permission to bore the cylinder and go up to the next larger size. So they are ordering the new, larger, piston and rings. Kind of funny. I had no idea they had a slightly larger version. It's not the 685 kit, sadly! Just slightly bigger. The mechanics have a guy that does precision work on aircraft engines and they are going to let him do the boring. Anyway... My question is about the out of round cylinder. Did something happen to cause this, or is it a factory defect? My other thought was that band-aids like the 16T front sprocket would not have made a bit of difference. Anyway, bizarre about the cylinder. I'm hopeful that they can fix the problem. I'm about 50/50 on it I guess. Many have had the work done, with mixed results. The only sure fire way is to do the 685 kit. But I'm cheap. This isn't costing me a dime, so I will try it first.

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Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:43 am**

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: SNIP if your running 5k+ RPM's . You should be using synthetic engine oil. Plus, not sure what fuel you feed your engine, but 91 Octane is required. > > -Mike- > Hi Mike, Just curious. How did you come to this conclusion that synthetic should be used. How did you conclude that 91 Octane is required. Substantiation please. =without conjecture and postulation of an arbitrary thesis caveat: humor with verbose conjecture allowed as long as the KLR "F" word (farkle) is used repeatedly. revmaaatin. always curious why my bike runs just fine at 5Krpms on 87/85 octane and dino oil--not that I have anything against syn products--I use them in the car

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:06 pm**

Synthetic oil stays cooler, doesnt reach as high of temps that mineral oil do. On your left side cover, were it has your info tag/plate for the bike. tires size,spark plug,gap, oil, etc... it also says fuel= Gasloine with research octane 91 min. now, The oil issue, If your running close to redline for 500 miles , I would want to keep my engine as cool as possible , so synthetic would help. with the Fuel. its Kawasaki's recommendation. -Mike- ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: revmaaatin To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:42:47 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round...

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: SNIP if your running 5k+ RPM's . You should be using synthetic engine oil. Plus, not sure what fuel you feed your engine, but 91 Octane is required. > > -Mike- > Hi Mike, Just curious. How did you come to this conclusion that synthetic should be used. How did you conclude that 91 Octane is required. Substantiation please. =without conjecture and postulation of an arbitrary thesis caveat: humor with verbose conjecture allowed as long as the KLR "F" word (farkle) is used repeatedly. revmaaatin. always curious why my bike runs just fine at 5Krpms on 87/85 octane and dino oil--not that I have anything against syn products--I use them in the car [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:53 pm**

I think you are confusing 91 RON with 91 Octane. The KLR fuel specs say 91 RON (Research Octane Number) or 87 'Average" Octane. Average Octane is equal to (RON + Motor Method) divided by 2. So, 'pump gas' of 87 Octane is OK for the KLR. Dn R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: > > Synthetic oil stays cooler, doesnt reach as high of temps that mineral oil do. > > On your left side cover, were it has your info tag/plate for the bike. tires size,spark plug,gap, oil, etc... it also says fuel= Gasloine with research octane 91 min. > > now, The oil issue, If your running close to redline for 500 miles , I would want to keep my engine as cool as possible , so synthetic would help. with the Fuel. its Kawasaki's recommendation. > > -Mike- > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: revmaaatin > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:42:47 AM > Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: > > SNIP > > if your running 5k+ RPM's . You should be using synthetic engine oil. Plus, not sure what fuel you feed your engine, but 91 Octane is required. > > > > -Mike- > > > > Hi Mike, > Just curious. > How did you come to this conclusion that synthetic should be used. > > How did you conclude that 91 Octane is required. > > Substantiation please. > =without conjecture and postulation of an arbitrary thesis > caveat: humor with verbose conjecture allowed as long as the KLR "F" word (farkle) is used repeatedly. > > revmaaatin. always curious why my bike runs just fine at 5Krpms on 87/85 octane and dino oil--not that I have anything against syn products--I use them in the car > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:36 pm**

A research octane of 91 is the same as 87 octane at the pump. The method used to arrive at the octane rating is different. Walt

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hansen" To: "KLR" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:05 PM Subject: re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... Synthetic oil stays cooler, doesnt reach as high of temps that mineral oil do. On your left side cover, were it has your info tag/plate for the bike. tires size,spark plug,gap, oil, etc... it also says fuel= Gasloine with research octane 91 min. now, The oil issue, If your running close to redline for 500 miles , I would want to keep my engine as cool as possible , so synthetic would help. with the Fuel. its Kawasaki's recommendation. -Mike- ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: revmaaatin To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:42:47 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: SNIP if your running 5k+ RPM's . You should be using synthetic engine oil. Plus, not sure what fuel you feed your engine, but 91 Octane is required. > > -Mike- > Hi Mike, Just curious. How did you come to this conclusion that synthetic should be used. How did you conclude that 91 Octane is required. Substantiation please. =without conjecture and postulation of an arbitrary thesis caveat: humor with verbose conjecture allowed as long as the KLR "F" word (farkle) is used repeatedly. revmaaatin. always curious why my bike runs just fine at 5Krpms on 87/85 octane and dino oil--not that I have anything against syn products--I use them in the car [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:44 pm**

You can all use 87 octane if you want, but my bike gets Shell 93 octane. I have had to put other gas in at different times but I always use the highest octane I can find. My bike rattles like a garbage can full of bolts if i use 87 octane. Rick A17

--- On Thu, 4/9/09, k650 wrote: From: k650 Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... To: "Mike Hansen" , "KLR" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:35 PM A research octane of 91 is the same as 87 octane at the pump. The method used to arrive at the octane rating is different. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hansen" To: "KLR" Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:05 PM Subject: re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... Synthetic oil stays cooler, doesnt reach as high of temps that mineral oil do. On your left side cover, were it has your info tag/plate for the bike. tires size,spark plug,gap, oil, etc... it also says fuel= Gasloine with research octane 91 min. now, The oil issue, If your running close to redline for 500 miles , I would want to keep my engine as cool as possible , so synthetic would help. with the Fuel. its Kawasaki's recommendation. -Mike- ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: revmaaatin To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:42:47 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: SNIP if your running 5k+ RPM's . You should be using synthetic engine oil. Plus, not sure what fuel you feed your engine, but 91 Octane is required. > > -Mike- > Hi Mike, Just curious. How did you come to this conclusion that synthetic should be used. How did you conclude that 91 Octane is required. Substantiation please. =without conjecture and postulation of an arbitrary thesis caveat: humor with verbose conjecture allowed as long as the KLR "F" word (farkle) is used repeatedly. revmaaatin. always curious why my bike runs just fine at 5Krpms on 87/85 octane and dino oil--not that I have anything against syn products--I use them in the car [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------ --------- --------- ------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews. com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/ klr650faq. html Member Map at: http://www.frappr com/dsnklr650Yah oo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:55 pm**

Your bike is either set excessively lean or has large carbon deposits on the piston top, valves and head. I would try adjusting the mixture screw. You might lose an MPG or two but with the less expensive regular gas the cost per mile should still be less. Walt

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... You can all use 87 octane if you want, but my bike gets Shell 93 octane. I have had to put other gas in at different times but I always use the highest octane I can find. My bike rattles like a garbage can full of bolts if i use 87 octane. Rick A17 --- On Thu, 4/9/09, k650 wrote: From: k650 Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... To: "Mike Hansen" , "KLR" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:35 PM A research octane of 91 is the same as 87 octane at the pump. The method used to arrive at the octane rating is different. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hansen" To: "KLR" Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:05 PM Subject: re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... Synthetic oil stays cooler, doesnt reach as high of temps that mineral oil do. On your left side cover, were it has your info tag/plate for the bike. tires size,spark plug,gap, oil, etc... it also says fuel= Gasloine with research octane 91 min. now, The oil issue, If your running close to redline for 500 miles , I would want to keep my engine as cool as possible , so synthetic would help. with the Fuel. its Kawasaki's recommendation. -Mike- ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: revmaaatin To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:42:47 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: SNIP if your running 5k+ RPM's . You should be using synthetic engine oil. Plus, not sure what fuel you feed your engine, but 91 Octane is required. > > -Mike- > Hi Mike, Just curious. How did you come to this conclusion that synthetic should be used. How did you conclude that 91 Octane is required. Substantiation please. =without conjecture and postulation of an arbitrary thesis caveat: humor with verbose conjecture allowed as long as the KLR "F" word (farkle) is used repeatedly. revmaaatin. always curious why my bike runs just fine at 5Krpms on 87/85 octane and dino oil--not that I have anything against syn products--I use them in the car [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------ --------- --------- ------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews. com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/ klr650faq. html Member Map at: http://www.frappr com/dsnklr650Yah oo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:00 pm**

Bought the bike brand new, and has always been that way. Already turned the mixture screw out. Let me make one change to my previous statement. On very warm or hot days under a good load she rattles. Cruising down the road is fine. But with 93 octane I can be caught in traffic on a 100 degree day with no rattles. Rick A17

--- On Thu, 4/9/09, k650 wrote: From: k650 Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... To: ramachm12@..., dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:55 PM Your bike is either set excessively lean or has large carbon deposits on the piston top, valves and head. I would try adjusting the mixture screw. You might lose an MPG or two but with the less expensive regular gas the cost per mile should still be less. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... You can all use 87 octane if you want, but my bike gets Shell 93 octane. I have had to put other gas in at different times but I always use the highest octane I can find. My bike rattles like a garbage can full of bolts if i use 87 octane. Rick A17 --- On Thu, 4/9/09, k650 wrote: From: k650 Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... To: "Mike Hansen" , "KLR" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:35 PM A research octane of 91 is the same as 87 octane at the pump. The method used to arrive at the octane rating is different. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hansen" To: "KLR" Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:05 PM Subject: re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... Synthetic oil stays cooler, doesnt reach as high of temps that mineral oil do. On your left side cover, were it has your info tag/plate for the bike. tires size,spark plug,gap, oil, etc... it also says fuel= Gasloine with research octane 91 min. now, The oil issue, If your running close to redline for 500 miles , I would want to keep my engine as cool as possible , so synthetic would help. with the Fuel. its Kawasaki's recommendation. -Mike- ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: revmaaatin To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:42:47 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: SNIP if your running 5k+ RPM's . You should be using synthetic engine oil. Plus, not sure what fuel you feed your engine, but 91 Octane is required. > > -Mike- > Hi Mike, Just curious. How did you come to this conclusion that synthetic should be used. How did you conclude that 91 Octane is required. Substantiation please. =without conjecture and postulation of an arbitrary thesis caveat: humor with verbose conjecture allowed as long as the KLR "F" word (farkle) is used repeatedly. revmaaatin. always curious why my bike runs just fine at 5Krpms on 87/85 octane and dino oil--not that I have anything against syn products--I use them in the car [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------ --------- --------- ------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews. com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/ klr650faq. html Member Map at: http://www.frappr com/dsnklr650Yah oo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:22 pm**

It may simply be you are letting the RPM's get too low (lugging). I have a jet kit in mine and can run the engine really low but with the carb as yours is I think most recommend keeping it above 2000 in first to 3500 in the top gear. Maybe even higher. I think some use the figures of 2500 to 4000 minimum depending on the gear you are in. Walt

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:59 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... Bought the bike brand new, and has always been that way. Already turned the mixture screw out. Let me make one change to my previous statement. On very warm or hot days under a good load she rattles. Cruising down the road is fine. But with 93 octane I can be caught in traffic on a 100 degree day with no rattles. Rick A17 --- On Thu, 4/9/09, k650 wrote: From: k650 Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... To: ramachm12@..., dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:55 PM Your bike is either set excessively lean or has large carbon deposits on the piston top, valves and head. I would try adjusting the mixture screw. You might lose an MPG or two but with the less expensive regular gas the cost per mile should still be less. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... You can all use 87 octane if you want, but my bike gets Shell 93 octane. I have had to put other gas in at different times but I always use the highest octane I can find. My bike rattles like a garbage can full of bolts if i use 87 octane. Rick A17 --- On Thu, 4/9/09, k650 wrote: From: k650 Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... To: "Mike Hansen" , "KLR" dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:35 PM A research octane of 91 is the same as 87 octane at the pump. The method used to arrive at the octane rating is different. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hansen" To: "KLR" Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:05 PM Subject: re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... Synthetic oil stays cooler, doesnt reach as high of temps that mineral oil do. On your left side cover, were it has your info tag/plate for the bike. tires size,spark plug,gap, oil, etc... it also says fuel= Gasloine with research octane 91 min. now, The oil issue, If your running close to redline for 500 miles , I would want to keep my engine as cool as possible , so synthetic would help. with the Fuel. its Kawasaki's recommendation. -Mike- ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: revmaaatin To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:42:47 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: SNIP if your running 5k+ RPM's . You should be using synthetic engine oil. Plus, not sure what fuel you feed your engine, but 91 Octane is required. > > -Mike- > Hi Mike, Just curious. How did you come to this conclusion that synthetic should be used. How did you conclude that 91 Octane is required. Substantiation please. =without conjecture and postulation of an arbitrary thesis caveat: humor with verbose conjecture allowed as long as the KLR "F" word (farkle) is used repeatedly. revmaaatin. always curious why my bike runs just fine at 5Krpms on 87/85 octane and dino oil--not that I have anything against syn products--I use them in the car [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------ --------- --------- ------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews. com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/ klr650faq. html Member Map at: http://www.frappr com/dsnklr650Yah oo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650Yahoo! Groups Links

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:31 pm**

I will give you that. I do tend to lug my bike more than I should. Especially being I tip the scales at 280 lbs. The KLR does like it better if i keep the engine singing. But I still prefer the peace of mind the higher octane gives me. rick A17

--- On Thu, 4/9/09, k650 wrote: From: k650 Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... To: ramachm12@..., dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 4:22 PM It may simply be you are letting the RPM's get too low (lugging). I have a jet kit in mine and can run the engine really low but with the carb as yours is I think most recommend keeping it above 2000 in first to 3500 in the top gear. Maybe even higher. I think some use the figures of 2500 to 4000 minimum depending on the gear you are in. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:59 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... Bought the bike brand new, and has always been that way. Already turned the mixture screw out. Let me make one change to my previous statement. On very warm or hot days under a good load she rattles. Cruising down the road is fine. But with 93 octane I can be caught in traffic on a 100 degree day with no rattles. Rick A17 --- On Thu, 4/9/09, k650 wrote: From: k650 Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... To: ramachm12@yahoo. com, dsn_klr650@yahoogro ups.com Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:55 PM Your bike is either set excessively lean or has large carbon deposits on the piston top, valves and head. I would try adjusting the mixture screw. You might lose an MPG or two but with the less expensive regular gas the cost per mile should still be less. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick McCauley" To: Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... You can all use 87 octane if you want, but my bike gets Shell 93 octane. I have had to put other gas in at different times but I always use the highest octane I can find. My bike rattles like a garbage can full of bolts if i use 87 octane. Rick A17 --- On Thu, 4/9/09, k650 wrote: From: k650 Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... To: "Mike Hansen" , "KLR" Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 3:35 PM A research octane of 91 is the same as 87 octane at the pump. The method used to arrive at the octane rating is different. Walt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hansen" To: "KLR" Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 1:05 PM Subject: re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... Synthetic oil stays cooler, doesnt reach as high of temps that mineral oil do. On your left side cover, were it has your info tag/plate for the bike. tires size,spark plug,gap, oil, etc... it also says fuel= Gasloine with research octane 91 min. now, The oil issue, If your running close to redline for 500 miles , I would want to keep my engine as cool as possible , so synthetic would help. with the Fuel. its Kawasaki's recommendation. -Mike- ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: revmaaatin To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:42:47 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [DSN_KLR650] Cylinder out of round... --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hansen wrote: SNIP if your running 5k+ RPM's . You should be using synthetic engine oil. Plus, not sure what fuel you feed your engine, but 91 Octane is required. > > -Mike- > Hi Mike, Just curious. How did you come to this conclusion that synthetic should be used. How did you conclude that 91 Octane is required. Substantiation please. =without conjecture and postulation of an arbitrary thesis caveat: humor with verbose conjecture allowed as long as the KLR "F" word (farkle) is used repeatedly. revmaaatin. always curious why my bike runs just fine at 5Krpms on 87/85 octane and dino oil--not that I have anything against syn products--I use them in the car [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------ --------- --------- ------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews. com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/ klr650faq. html Member Map at: http://www.frappr com/dsnklr650Yah oo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------ --------- --------- ------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews. com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/ klr650faq. html Member Map at: http://www.frappr com/dsnklr650Yah oo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------ --------- --------- ------ List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews. com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/ klr650faq. html Member Map at: http://www.frappr com/dsnklr650Yah oo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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