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				random misfires
				Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:48 am
				by John Plante
				I have a well maintained 2005 KLR (10,000 miles) that has started misfiring at sporadic times (getting more frequent). I can be idling or cruising at 60 mph. It may be1 misfire or 2-3 in a row and then returns to normal running. It has the feel of water or crap in the fuel. The tach indicates a quick small drop in rpms when this happens. Since I started troubleshooting this I have noticed that the tach will have very quick very small drop in rpms with not apparent hesitation in the engine when I am cruising. I am thinking about putiing some Sea Foam in the tank to help clean out any crap in the system. I drained the carburator bowl and it was clean. BTW Sea Foam is hard to find on the coast of Maine. I have yet to find an auto parts store that stocks this item. We have lots of the real sea foam.
 I did the valves during the winter (do not ride too much in winter in Maine), did the doo many miles ago, regular oil changes, tried a new spark plug, cleaned up the two safety switches (clutch and sidestand). I can't figure out if this is electrical or fuel related. I am leaning towards fuel.
 The KLR ran fine for several months this spring/summer. Any help is greatly appreciated.
 Another quick question. Has anyone experienced a thermostat sticking on their KLR?
 Thanks,
 John Plante
 On the rocky coast of Maine
 South Portland, Maine
 
 
       
 
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				random misfires
				Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:12 am
				by John Plante
				Thanks Bradley. I will give Walmart another look. If all else fails, Amazon sells Sea Foam through a third party.
 
 
 ----- Original Message ----
 From: Bradley Scheirer 
 To: John Plante 
 Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 10:59:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Random misfires
 
 
 Our Walmarts in Pa carry it. It helped clear my problem in one tankful. I did use half a bottle though
 
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: John Plante 
 To: 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 10:48 AM
 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Random misfires
 
 I have a well maintained 2005 KLR (10,000 miles) that has started misfiring at sporadic times (getting more frequent). I can be idling or cruising at 60 mph. It may be1 misfire or 2-3 in a row and then returns to normal running. It has the feel of water or crap in the fuel. The tach indicates a quick small drop in rpms when this happens. Since I started troubleshooting this I have noticed that the tach will have very quick very small drop in rpms with not apparent hesitation in the engine when I am cruising. I am thinking about putiing some Sea Foam in the tank to help clean out any crap in the system. I drained the carburator bowl and it was clean. BTW Sea Foam is hard to find on the coast of Maine. I have yet to find an auto parts store that stocks this item. We have lots of the real sea foam.
 I did the valves during the winter (do not ride too much in winter in Maine), did the doo many miles ago, regular oil changes, tried a new spark plug, cleaned up the two safety switches (clutch and sidestand). I can't figure out if this is electrical or fuel related. I am leaning towards fuel.
 The KLR ran fine for several months this spring/summer. Any help is greatly appreciated.
 Another quick question. Has anyone experienced a thermostat sticking on their KLR?
 Thanks,
 John Plante
 On the rocky coast of Maine
 South Portland, Maine
 
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				random misfires
				Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:34 am
				by Greg May
				Hi John, Carquest in Nova Scotia carries Seafoam, pretty sure I saw it in a Carquest in I think NY or possibly Mass., so a local Carquest might carry it. Hope it cures your problem....have a great day....Greg 
 
 
 --- On Sun, 7/13/08, John Plante  wrote:
 
 From: John Plante 
 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Random misfires
 To: 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
 Received: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 11:48 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I have a well maintained 2005 KLR (10,000 miles) that has started misfiring at sporadic times (getting more frequent). I can be idling or cruising at 60 mph. It may be1 misfire or 2-3 in a row and then returns to normal running. It has the feel of water or crap in the fuel. The tach indicates a quick small drop in rpms when this happens. Since I started troubleshooting this I have noticed that the tach will have very quick very small drop in rpms with not apparent hesitation in the engine when I am cruising. I am thinking about putiing some Sea Foam in the tank to help clean out any crap in the system. I drained the carburator bowl and it was clean. BTW Sea Foam is hard to find on the coast of Maine. I have yet to find an auto parts store that stocks this item. We have lots of the real sea foam.
 I did the valves during the winter (do not ride too much in winter in Maine), did the doo many miles ago, regular oil changes, tried a new spark plug, cleaned up the two safety switches (clutch and sidestand). I can't figure out if this is electrical or fuel related. I am leaning towards fuel.
 The KLR ran fine for several months this spring/summer. Any help is greatly appreciated.
 Another quick question. Has anyone experienced a thermostat sticking on their KLR?
 Thanks,
 John Plante
 On the rocky coast of Maine
 South Portland, Maine
 
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				random misfires
				Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:51 pm
				by Jeff Saline
				On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:48:43 -0700 (PDT) John Plante
  writes:
 
 > I have a well maintained 2005 KLR (10,000 miles) that has started 
 > misfiring at sporadic times (getting more frequent). I can be idling 
 > or cruising at 60 mph. It may be1 misfire or 2-3 in a row and then 
 > returns to normal running. It has the feel of water or crap in the 
 > fuel. The tach indicates a quick small drop in rpms when this 
 > happens. Since I started troubleshooting this I have noticed that 
 > the tach will have very quick very small drop in rpms with not 
 > apparent hesitation in the engine when I am cruising. I am thinking 
 > about putiing some Sea Foam in the tank to help clean out any crap 
 > in the system. I drained the carburator bowl and it was clean. BTW 
 > Sea Foam is hard to find on the coast of Maine. I have yet to find 
 > an auto parts store that stocks this item. We have lots of the real 
 > sea foam.
 > I did the valves during the winter (do not ride too much in winter 
 > in Maine), did the doo many miles ago, regular oil changes, tried a 
 > new spark plug, cleaned up the two safety switches (clutch and 
 > sidestand). I can't figure out if this is electrical or fuel 
 > related. I am leaning towards fuel.
 > The KLR ran fine for several months this spring/summer. Any help is 
 > greatly appreciated.
 > Another quick question. Has anyone experienced a thermostat sticking 
 > on their KLR?
 > Thanks,
 > John Plante
 > On the rocky coast of Maine
 > South Portland, Maine
  
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 John,
 
 From your description it sounds more like electrical than fuel to me. 
 But that's a wild guess from a long ways away.
 
 I don't think a couple of misfires from a fuel glitch would show on the
 tach.  But an electrical issue could show right up.
 
 Maybe go over your wires and connections to make sure they are all clean
 and solid.  I suppose a guy could spray the electrical stuff with WD-40
 and wipe it down.  If you got some salt deposits on something electrical
 I seem to recall the electrickery could find a new path under the certain
 conditions and cause misfires and no start or no run conditions.
 
 Good luck,
 
 Jeff Saline
 ABC # 4412  South Dakota Airmarshal
 Airheads Beemer Club 
www.airheads.org
 The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota
 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT
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				random misfires
				Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:12 pm
				by Reverend
				To me this sounds electrical, like a faulty connector or something that
 wiggled off. The thinking is that if it were fuel you'd have more of an
 issue than you seem to do. A sticky float, a lean-surge on the pilot
 circuit, a clogged jet, a sinking float, a a vacuum leak etc etc. All these
 would give you far more noticeable problems than a quick blip.
 
 Sparkplug and plug wire, ignition coil, CDI, ignition switch, if your
 clutch/kickstand switches are in working (or entirely removed) order. That
 sort of stuff. Also connectors here and there that might need a bit of
 drying and greasing.
 
 /Rev
 
 
 > -----Original Message-----
 > Behalf Of John Plante
 
 
 > I can't figure out if this is electrical or fuel related. I am leaning
 > towards fuel. 
 
			 
			
					
				random misfires
				Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:36 pm
				by Eric Foster
				http://secure.nhbragg.com/itemFlyPage.php?location=&partid=558951
 
 Ever heard of NH bragg? They're based out of Bangor.
 
 E
 
 The Cowchippy, not so rocky, center of Maine
 
			 
			
					
				who wants to drive their klr at 55 mph?
				Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:14 am
				by Arden Kysely
				Sammy Hagar said it best. Now, where did I put that CD?
 
 __Arden  --- In 
DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
 >
 > 
 > Surely you understand the 55mph speed limit was NOT about 
 > saving fuel. And it wasn't about saving lives either. It 
 > wasn't back then and it won't be next time.
 > 
 > Bob, who doesn't want to drive anything as slow as 55 on the 
 > interstate highway system.
 >